General Fan Fiction Thread

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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:27 pm

Kanassa wrote: [spoiler]Whis doesn't really strike me as the type to care if Goku or Vegeta die or not, but Beerus seems to generally want them to live. I neither think Beerus in this situation would legitimantly be afraid, nor would his first instinct be to kill the two. For one he can just destroy the evidence, for another Beerus would probably just turn to Vegeta and go ''Oh yeah I did do that didn't I, because that was kind of my job".

Goku and Vegeta know that Beerus is the God of DESTRUCTION, he's destroyed countless planets who probably did nothing wrong. Hell, they met because he was planning to destroy them all. By now I think Vegeta would just shrug at this, this really isn't anything that would have them try to kill Beerus. THough if they did intend to attack Beerus, Whis would most certainly step in.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I probably should have specified that this is in the movie continuity where Goku & Vegeta are actually fairly close to Beerus' maximum power, so they can actually kill him if they wanted to :P
In the actual film, Beerus was worried about the prospect of the two of them ganging up on him and BoG did have Goku refuse Whis' offer of becoming a God of Destruction. Meaning if someone actually challenges Beerus for the title and win, they can steal his job from him.

As for Vegeta, I'm working under the assumption he didn't care about Freeza after he was gonne because it was a Saiyan who beat him (Goku) and it was his kid (Future Trunks) who killed him so he thought the Saiyan's were avenged. With this revelation, it turns out there's someone left who needs to answer for it. Plus, Vegeta knew what Beerus' job was when he tried to destroy the Earth and that didn't stop him from trying to avert that catastrophe.[/spoiler]
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Kanassa » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:33 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Kanassa wrote: [spoiler]Whis doesn't really strike me as the type to care if Goku or Vegeta die or not, but Beerus seems to generally want them to live. I neither think Beerus in this situation would legitimantly be afraid, nor would his first instinct be to kill the two. For one he can just destroy the evidence, for another Beerus would probably just turn to Vegeta and go ''Oh yeah I did do that didn't I, because that was kind of my job".

Goku and Vegeta know that Beerus is the God of DESTRUCTION, he's destroyed countless planets who probably did nothing wrong. Hell, they met because he was planning to destroy them all. By now I think Vegeta would just shrug at this, this really isn't anything that would have them try to kill Beerus. THough if they did intend to attack Beerus, Whis would most certainly step in.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I probably should have specified that this is in the movie continuity where Goku & Vegeta are actually fairly close to Beerus' maximum power, so they can actually kill him if they wanted to :P
In the actual film, Beerus was worried about the prospect of the two of them ganging up on him and BoG did have Goku refuse Whis' offer of becoming a God of Destruction. Meaning if someone actually challenges Beerus for the title and win, they can steal his job from him.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Beerus has already displayed that like Goku he enjoys fighting people near the same power as him (Which is why he wants the two trained), and neither Goku nor Vegeta even if they for some reason were enraged (In all versions of Dragonball Vegeta either wouldn't care about the destruction of the Saiyans, or would of jsut gotten over it by this point) would fight a tired out Beerus. THey'd want him at his best.[/spoiler]
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:37 pm

Kanassa wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote: I guess I need to explain some context to make sense of my question :P

[spoiler]Basically, at the end of my F remake, Beerus kills Freeza but not before Freeza tells him he's got evidence of Beerus ordering him to destroy Planet Vegeta, evidence he intends for Goku and especially Vegeta to get their hands on. Beerus, drained from his fight and afraid of the Saiyan's, asks Whis to get rid of them for him. One route I'm thinking of going is having Whis use Hit for the assassin job but I'm not sure Whis would mind killing either Goku and Vegeta, hence why I ask if he'd refuse or comply with it.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Whis doesn't really strike me as the type to care if Goku or Vegeta die or not, but Beerus seems to generally want them to live. I neither think Beerus in this situation would legitimantly be afraid, nor would his first instinct be to kill the two. For one he can just destroy the evidence, for another Beerus would probably just turn to Vegeta and go ''Oh yeah I did do that didn't I, because that was kind of my job".

Goku and Vegeta know that Beerus is the God of DESTRUCTION, he's destroyed countless planets who probably did nothing wrong. Hell, they met because he was planning to destroy them all. By now I think Vegeta would just shrug at this, this really isn't anything that would have them try to kill Beerus. THough if they did intend to attack Beerus, Whis would most certainly step in.[/spoiler]
I'm not entirely sure why we're doing these in spoiler tags, but whatever.
[spoiler]If I were writing the scene, I'd have Beerus casually shrug it off, saying "I AM the God of Destruction, after all." Vegeta would fly into a rage, about to attack Beerus!.... only for Goku to point out that if Vegeta really cared that much, he could've used the Dragon Balls to revive the Saiyans. Having his bout of righteous anger derailed by Goku's blunt and simple logic, Vegeta can only pout.[/spoiler]
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Rubens » Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:21 am

Alright, I have another question: what's the general opinion about including movie characters? Should they be free to interfere in the story actively or should their influence be rather limited? For example, I've seen in some fanficts Broly being used in a single arc of his own, and I've also seen him being adapted to the main cast (or at least with progressive presence throughout posterior arcs), so I'm curious to know what's the general opinion about using these characters.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Kanassa » Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:33 am

Rubens wrote:Alright, I have another question: what's the general opinion about including movie characters? Should they be free to interfere in the story actively or should their influence be rather limited? For example, I've seen in some fanficts Broly being used in a single arc of his own, and I've also seen him being adapted to the main cast (or at least with progressive presence throughout posterior arcs), so I'm curious to know what's the general opinion about using these characters.
Why would it be a problem? What does them being movie characters do to damage the story?
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Rubens » Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:35 am

Kanassa wrote:
Rubens wrote:Alright, I have another question: what's the general opinion about including movie characters? Should they be free to interfere in the story actively or should their influence be rather limited? For example, I've seen in some fanficts Broly being used in a single arc of his own, and I've also seen him being adapted to the main cast (or at least with progressive presence throughout posterior arcs), so I'm curious to know what's the general opinion about using these characters.
Why would it be a problem? What does them being movie characters do to damage the story?
Personally, none. I'm just wondering if everyone shares the same opinion or not.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Kanassa » Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:45 am

Rubens wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
Rubens wrote:Alright, I have another question: what's the general opinion about including movie characters? Should they be free to interfere in the story actively or should their influence be rather limited? For example, I've seen in some fanficts Broly being used in a single arc of his own, and I've also seen him being adapted to the main cast (or at least with progressive presence throughout posterior arcs), so I'm curious to know what's the general opinion about using these characters.
Why would it be a problem? What does them being movie characters do to damage the story?
Personally, none. I'm just wondering if everyone shares the same opinion or not.
The only people who would have a problem from what I can see would be those that are obsessed with canon content, then again, why would those people be reading fanfiction?
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Post by Alruneia » Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:46 am

Rubens wrote:Alright, I have another question: what's the general opinion about including movie characters? Should they be free to interfere in the story actively or should their influence be rather limited? For example, I've seen in some fanficts Broly being used in a single arc of his own, and I've also seen him being adapted to the main cast (or at least with progressive presence throughout posterior arcs), so I'm curious to know what's the general opinion about using these characters.
My stance is that unless you count the relevant movies and their characters as part of the story (as in they're canon to your fanfic), you're just as well, or maybe even better, off simply creating an original character who serves the same purpose. For example, I would avoid reintroducing Broly into a fanfic unless I also counted the three Broly movies, and thus Broly's existence, as canon to the work.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:26 am

Rubens wrote:Alright, I have another question: what's the general opinion about including movie characters? Should they be free to interfere in the story actively or should their influence be rather limited? For example, I've seen in some fanficts Broly being used in a single arc of his own, and I've also seen him being adapted to the main cast (or at least with progressive presence throughout posterior arcs), so I'm curious to know what's the general opinion about using these characters.
While a lot of the movie bad guys aren't particularly great, they usually come with cool ideas and/or concepts with them to play around with like the Tree of Might, Janemba breaking reality,...

I'd advise changing their personalities or roles though. The problem with the movie bad guys is that they're usually just copies of existing villains. So, if you want to say use Lord Slug, I'd suggest making him a figure from Namekian history or perhaps mentor figure for Piccolo,...
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Rubens » Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:54 am

Again, thank you very much for the replies.
Kanassa wrote:The only people who would have a problem from what I can see would be those that are obsessed with canon content, then again, why would those people be reading fanfiction?
You got a good point.
Alruneia wrote:My stance is that unless you count the relevant movies and their characters as part of the story (as in they're canon to your fanfic), you're just as well, or maybe even better, off simply creating an original character who serves the same purpose. For example, I would avoid reintroducing Broly into a fanfic unless I also counted the three Broly movies, and thus Broly's existence, as canon to the work.
But that's me.
I see. But I have to disagree when you mention the three movies as part of Broly's history - I understand it's just an example - because if I am to include him in the story as canon, it's up to me (or any writer) to decide whether he's defeated for good or if he ever returns, or anything else. As for the original character... I don't know, the idea seems good but I'm a bit insecure towards it.
ekrolo2 wrote:While a lot of the movie bad guys aren't particularly great, they usually come with cool ideas and/or concepts with them to play around with like the Tree of Might, Janemba breaking reality,...

I'd advise changing their personalities or roles though. The problem with the movie bad guys is that they're usually just copies of existing villains. So, if you want to say use Lord Slug, I'd suggest making him a figure from Namekian history or perhaps mentor figure for Piccolo,...
Sounds like a good advice, even though I'm not very fond of Slug but I get what you mean.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Alruneia » Sun Oct 02, 2016 4:32 pm

Here's a general question: Which character interactions that don't/can't happen in canon are you the most happy to see in fan fiction?
One example is fan fiction where Frieza interacts with Cooler. Another example is fan fiction where Cell meets Buu. See what I mean?
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 4:35 pm

Alruneia wrote:Here's a general question: Which character interactions that don't/can't happen in canon are you the most happy to see in fan fiction?
One example is fan fiction where Frieza interacts with Cooler. Another example is fan fiction where Cell meets Buu. See what I mean?
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Post by Anime Kitten » Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:35 pm

Alruneia wrote:Which character interactions that don't/can't happen in canon are you the most happy to see in fan fiction?
Mira with Goku, Cell, and actually many others would be interesting. Towa and Chronoa too.
Of the ones I've actually read, though, a lot of the ones in Multiverse are cool, especially the Cell ones.
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Post by Doctor. » Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:41 pm

Black interacting with Cell would be pretty fun to see.

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Post by Anime Kitten » Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:46 pm

Doctor. wrote:Black interacting with Cell would be pretty fun to see.
You're right. Cell has a lot of interesting potential interactions.
Also, the Zamasu and Kaiōshin one we didn't get in DBS#59.
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Doctor. wrote:Black interacting with Cell would be pretty fun to see.
You just gave me the perfect idea for "Captain Ginyu Conquers the World!"
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Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:04 pm

Does anyone know what Whis' weights from Super are called?
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ekrolo2 wrote:Does anyone know what Whis' weights from Super are called?
I'm not sure they were given a name aside from "weights."
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:50 am

I just have a thought to pitch, a rough re-write of the series starting from the day he meets Bulma, but with Goku Black. However, this version of Black would be closer to the early, apprehensive Zamasu, not the genocidal one. This would be more of a comedy, I'm thinking of a similar style to early Dragon Ball SD.

If someone could make this happen and do it well, I'd give the same girly-giggle that I give to Zamasu maliciously pouring Gowasu's tea.
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Post by Sailor Haumea » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:04 pm

I've been working on a rewrite of the series, titled Dragon Ball Redux.

What changes?

Curse of the Blood Rubies and Emperor Pilaf Saga are merged. King Gurumes and Emperor Pilaf are both antagonists, and have a history together. The two loathe one another.

Dead Zone takes place before Raditz Saga, but Krillin recognizes Gohan at Kame House in the latter.

Goku arrives just after Chiaotzu self-destructs, so Tien and Piccolo live.

Shortly after Vegeta leaves, the events of The World's Strongest take place. However, rather than Dr. Kochin summoning Shenron, he's stopped while on his quest to collect them. The Z-Fighters are looking for the Dragon Balls to revive Yamcha. The battle between Kochin and the Z-Fighters thaws the ice, and the story proceeds.

Tree of Might happens as their quest continues. Turles kills Tien during the battle. Turles's dying words reveal he was hired by Lord Slug to wipe out the population to make Terra-Freezing easier.

Lord Slug happens next. Goku going Pseudo Super Saiyan is moved to later. After Piccolo gives Goku his energy, Slug kills him, knowing that doing so will render the Dragon Balls inert. Basically, Slug wants to ensure no one he killed or that Turles killed can be brought back. The fact he did this is what drives Goku into PSS mode. He kills Lord Slug.

Afterwards, events play out normally until the three-year wait. Cooler shows up during this time period.

Androids 13, 14, and 15 are activated shortly before Cell's time machine is activated. I put this here because they have to be before Cell - Gero's supercomputer was giving instructions to 13, and during the Cell arc, the supercomputer is destroyed.

Cell Saga happens.

During the 10-day prelude to the Cell Games, lots of things happen.

Vegeta, Piccolo, and Gohan tag along with Goku to New Namek, because King Kai says something's gone wrong there. They arrive to see Meta-Coolers. The events of Return of Cooler occur, but without Krillin, Master Roshi, etc.. Afterwards, Dende goes to Earth with Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, and Gohan.

Broly happens shortly after. It's explained that Goku isn't in Super Saiyan form because doing an interview like that would cause alarm.

PTETSS happens once they get back.

After the Cell Games, Bojack happens.

Broly returns shortly before the WMAT.

Bio-Broly happens as a side story to the events after the tournament during Buu.

Fusion Reborn takes place while Buu is with Mr. Satan and Bee.

Wrath of the Dragon takes place after Buu, as does the JSAT special. Then Super happens.

I've been thinking of including Super 17 Saga before Super, but with Dr. Lychee rather than Dr. Myuu, and as a standalone arc. No Black Star Dragon Balls, Goku never becomes a kid again.
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