"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[ekrolo2]

how come no one sensed black being there? trunks who can sense ki and the supreme kaiou who can sense god ki...

Same reason Cell can dart around the entirety of Earth without anyone spotting him: ki suppression.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

how come no one sensed black being there? trunks who can sense ki and the supreme kaiou who can sense god ki...

Characters with ki control have always been able to mask their presence. Remember the whole Namek Arc? There's nothing strange here.

[Noah]

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Wtf... How come Vegeta is such a dwarf in this shot?

[THEGOKU]

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Wtf... How come Vegeta is such a dwarf in this shot?

Scaling is something the whole DB series has a problem with. I'm watching Kai and during the Cell Games there are times where Hercule is drawn to be 9ft tall while everyone else is about 5ft. Idk how something like that gets solved but I mean if its always been in the series I doubt it would change.

[jplaya2023]

how come no one sensed black being there? trunks who can sense ki and the supreme kaiou who can sense god ki... :crazy:

Characters with ki control have always been able to mask their presence. Remember the whole Namek Arc? There's nothing strange here.

black couldn't even sense ki until his fights with trunks. I doubt he could suppress his ki without being able to sense it

[Jinzoningen MULE]

how come no one sensed black being there? trunks who can sense ki and the supreme kaiou who can sense god ki...

Characters with ki control have always been able to mask their presence. Remember the whole Namek Arc? There's nothing strange here.

black couldn't even sense ki until his fights with trunks. I doubt he could suppress his ki without being able to sense it

That never happened in the manga. Remember that these are 2 entirely separate continuities.

[jjgp1112]

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Wtf... How come Vegeta is such a dwarf in this shot?

Scaling is something the whole DB series has a problem with. I'm watching Kai and during the Cell Games there are times where Hercule is drawn to be 9ft tall while everyone else is about 5ft. Idk how something like that gets solved but I mean if its always been in the series I doubt it would change.

And then everybody got really weird and stubby looking in the Buu saga.

[Ajay]

Wtf... How come Vegeta is such a dwarf in this shot?

Because he's scrunching himself up. His knees are bent and his body is bent over.

[Lord Beerus]

Wtf... How come Vegeta is such a dwarf in this shot?

Scaling is something the whole DB series has a problem with. I'm watching Kai and during the Cell Games there are times where Hercule is drawn to be 9ft tall while everyone else is about 5ft. Idk how something like that gets solved but I mean if its always been in the series I doubt it would change.

And then everybody got really weird and stubby looking in the Buu saga.

Toriyama's art style in the Majin Boo arc took a quite... unusual direction.

[kinisking]

The anime's are usually awful damn similar most of the time, too.

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Not too different from Toyotaro's, because his usually aren't traced perfectly, and are adapted for different characters and the like.

Lol, this is ONE instant. Toyotaro does it multiple times each CHAPTER. The homages in the manga just seem plain lazy. I mean this one actually makes sense, unlike half of the homages in the manga which are just thrown in there.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

What if Toyotaro isn't Toyble? Wouldn't that be the biggest twist in this franchise

Anyway I've had my rant on this homages thing, they're both guilty but the anime is worse the "F" arc is toast to that.

[Bansho64]

Lol, this is ONE instant. Toyotaro does it multiple times each CHAPTER. The homages in the manga just seem plain lazy. I mean this one actually makes sense, unlike half of the homages in the manga which are just thrown in there.

How does this one "make sense"?
And in my opinion, this one instant is honestly worse than the homages Toyotaro's done. Because they didn't just do one pic or one instant. No, the whole animation of Vegeta doing that Final Flash was literally frame for frame copied from the original animation.
And it still looked really bad! At least Toyotaro's homages were detailed. He still shouldn't have copied but the anime is lower on the bar for me because of the fact that they copied and it still looked horrible.

[Noah]

Toriyama's art style in the Majin Boo arc took a quite... unusual direction.

Strange how it is one well-drawn animated arc IMO

[kinisking]

Lol, this is ONE instant. Toyotaro does it multiple times each CHAPTER. The homages in the manga just seem plain lazy. I mean this one actually makes sense, unlike half of the homages in the manga which are just thrown in there.

How does this one "make sense"?
And in my opinion, this one instant is honestly worse than the homages Toyotaro's done. Because they didn't just do one pic or one instant. No, the whole animation of Vegeta doing that Final Flash was literally frame for frame copied from the original animation.
And it still looked really bad! At least Toyotaro's homages were detailed. He still shouldn't have copied but the anime is lower on the bar for me because of the fact that they copied and it still looked horrible.

That one made sense because it's the exact same move, and the anime is working on a rushed schedule. Toyotorou has plenty of time, does it much more often, and does it in scenes that aren't like the original because he doesn't have much talent to think up his own scenes.

[Bansho64]

That one made sense because it's the exact same move, and the anime is working on a rushed schedule. Toyotorou has plenty of time, does it much more often, and does it in scenes that aren't like the original because he doesn't have much talent to think up his own scenes.

By that logic, all of Toyotaro's homages make sense as well. Punches and kicks. All the same moves. And you say he can't make up his own scenes, yet, in my kinda humble opinion, he's done many scenes that utterly trash whatever the anime comes up with. The guy's Super Saiyajin 2 Trunks looks fantastic.

[Patrolman Jaco]

Lol, this is ONE instant. Toyotaro does it multiple times each CHAPTER. The homages in the manga just seem plain lazy. I mean this one actually makes sense, unlike half of the homages in the manga which are just thrown in there.

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The Saiyan battle armour is made out of a stretchy and durable material, but apparently the same holds true for Trunks causal clothing. It's also weird that his short hair got as long as his Post RoTaS pony tail hair length in SS Grade 3.

[Miracles]

Characters with ki control have always been able to mask their presence. Remember the whole Namek Arc? There's nothing strange here.

black couldn't even sense ki until his fights with trunks. I doubt he could suppress his ki without being able to sense it

That never happened in the manga. Remember that these are 2 entirely separate continuities.

Black learning to sense Trunks ki did happen in the manga too.
The manga and anime are the same continuity, regardless of how many times people want to ignore this fact.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

black couldn't even sense ki until his fights with trunks. I doubt he could suppress his ki without being able to sense it

That never happened in the manga. Remember that these are 2 entirely separate continuities.

Black learning to sense Trunks ki did happen in the manga too.
The manga and anime are the same continuity, regardless of how many times people want to ignore this fact.

The same continuity? They've blatantly contradicted each other time after time. Do you know what continuity means?

[Miracles]

That never happened in the manga. Remember that these are 2 entirely separate continuities.

Black learning to sense Trunks ki did happen in the manga too.
The manga and anime are the same continuity, regardless of how many times people want to ignore this fact.

The same continuity? They've blatantly contradicted each other time after time. Do you know what continuity means?

I also know what contradiction means and they have not.

[nite_jay]

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The Saiyan battle armour is made out of a stretchy and durable material, but apparently the same holds true for Trunks causal clothing.

Lol wat. You're saying that like a sweater like his stretching is suprising.

The manga has more unnescessary homages; at least when the anime does them they have more reason to than doing it randomly on a fight/ impact panel. If I recall correctly, the anime has only done it during specific callbacks like Trunks G3 and Final Flash.


Also, the 2 face punch is done so many times throughout the series it's not even worth mentioning.