The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) If Teen Gohan had transformed into a Super Saiyan 3 following his father and Future Trunks' deaths during the Cell Games, would he have won against Super Perfect Cell without having to have both Goku and Vegeta to helo him?

2) If Future Trunks had Full Power Super Saiyan Teen Gohan and Piccolo to train with in his second trip to the Room of Spirit and Time, would he have been strong enough to gain an edge over the Cell Juniors, prevent himself from dying from a Full Power Death Beam by Super Perfect Cell, and help in taking Super Perfect Cell down during the Cell Games?

3) If following his day in the Room of Spirit and Time, Piccolo had fused with King Piccolo before fighting in the Cell Games, would the former have won against the Cel Juniors and Cell himself?

4) If Ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta had attempted to destroy Semiperfect Cell and failed to do so, would the following Zenkai for Semiperfect Cell give him enough power to go toe to toe with Ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta?

[DBZ Macky]

1) If Teen Gohan had transformed into a Super Saiyan 3 following his father and Future Trunks' deaths during the Cell Games, would he have won against Super Perfect Cell without having to have both Goku and Vegeta to helo him?

2) If Future Trunks had Full Power Super Saiyan Teen Gohan and Piccolo to train with in his second trip to the Room of Spirit and Time, would he have been strong enough to gain an edge over the Cell Juniors, prevent himself from dying from a Full Power Death Beam by Super Perfect Cell, and help in taking Super Perfect Cell down during the Cell Games?

3) If following his day in the Room of Spirit and Time, Piccolo had fused with King Piccolo before fighting in the Cell Games, would the former have won against the Cel Juniors and Cell himself?

4) If Ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta had attempted to destroy Semiperfect Cell and failed to do so, would the following Zenkai for Semiperfect Cell give him enough power to go toe to toe with Ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta?

1) Gohan wins. He was enough to match Cell with SSJ2, He's gonna stomp hard as a SSJ3 even if his arm is injured. Besides, Your what-if scenarios mostly consist of saiyans going SSJ3 or SSJ4 out of pure rage or desperation. It doesn't work like that IIRC.

2) I don't think it would've made too much of a difference. He'd probably fare better but the end result would be the same.

3) DBZ Supersonic Warriors has Piccolo fuse with King Piccolo and the result is enough to put up a fight against Super Buu. It's purely up to your imagination since we don't really know how the namekian fusion works. I'd still put my money on Piccolo though.

4) Zenkais are totally unpredictable at this point so I'd say no, Vegeta still stomps.

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) If Teen Gohan had transformed into a Super Saiyan 3 following his father and Future Trunks' deaths during the Cell Games, would he have won against Super Perfect Cell without having to have both Goku and Vegeta to help him?

2) If Future Trunks had Full Power Super Saiyan Teen Gohan and Piccolo to train with in his second trip to the Room of Spirit and Time, would he have been strong enough to gain an edge over the Cell Juniors, prevent himself from dying from a Full Power Death Beam by Super Perfect Cell, and help in taking Super Perfect Cell down during the Cell Games?

3) If following his day in the Room of Spirit and Time, Piccolo had fused with King Piccolo before fighting in the Cell Games, would the former have won against the Cell Juniors and Cell himself?

4) If Ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta had attempted to destroy Semiperfect Cell and failed to do so, would the following Zenkai for Semiperfect Cell give him enough power to go toe to toe with Ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta?

5) If Vegeta had rose to claim the legendary power of Super Saiyan for himself during the Frieza Saga, would the Saiyan Prince turn on Goku and the others even after getting rid of Frieza himself?

6) If the Scourge of the Universe, Frieza, had his older brother, Cooler, arrive to help him against Super Saiyan Goku during the Frieza Saga, with both of them starting in their fourth forms in the fight against the Super Saiyan, would Goku have won?

7) If upon his awakening into his Imperfect form, Cell had joined the battle with Super Saiyan Future Gohan against the cruel Androids of their future, would this change in history result in Future Gohan surviving his final battle against the Androids?

[Khin]

1) Super Saiyan Goku (Battle of Gods) vs. Majin Dabura.

2) Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Battle of Gods) vs. Hakaishin Beerus.

3) Super Saiyan Blue Goku (Battle of Gods) vs. Baby Janemba.

• Dabra is at best as strong as the Cell that fought Goku IMO, Goku stomps hard.
• “Destruction”
• Goku wrecks. Baby Janemba would turn out far weaker than top tier GT characters, who are far weaker than any God tiers.

4) Also what if during the Cell Games, Future Trunks had went Super Saiyan 2 from witnessing Full Power Super Saiyan Teen Gohan being beaten down by Perfect Cell.

Going by my made-up numbers, Trunks ends up a bit stronger than Gohan, but still not enough to beat Cell.

If Teen Gohan had transformed into a Super Saiyan 3 following his father and Future Trunks' deaths during the Cell Games, would he have won against Super Perfect Cell without having to have both Goku and Vegeta to helo him?

Super Saiyan 2 Gohan is already more or less on par with SPC, giving him a 4x power boost would easily make him capable of flicking Cell's head off.

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) If Teen Gohan had transformed into a Super Saiyan 3 following his father and Future Trunks' deaths during the Cell Games, would he have won against Super Perfect Cell without having to have both Goku and Vegeta to help him?

2) If Future Trunks had Full Power Super Saiyan Teen Gohan and Piccolo to train with in his second trip to the Room of Spirit and Time, would he have been strong enough to gain an edge over the Cell Juniors, prevent himself from dying from a Full Power Death Beam by Super Perfect Cell, and help in taking Super Perfect Cell down during the Cell Games?

3) If following his day in the Room of Spirit and Time, Piccolo had fused with King Piccolo before fighting in the Cell Games, would the former have won against the Cell Juniors and Cell himself?

4) If Ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta had attempted to destroy Semiperfect Cell and failed to do so, would the following Zenkai for Semiperfect Cell give him enough power to go toe to toe with Ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta?

1) Gohan wins. He was enough to match Cell with SSJ2, He's gonna stomp hard as a SSJ3 even if his arm is injured. Besides, Your what-if scenarios mostly consist of saiyans going SSJ3 or SSJ4 out of pure rage or desperation. It doesn't work like that IIRC.

2) I don't think it would've made too much of a difference. He'd probably fare better but the end result would be the same.

3) DBZ Supersonic Warriors has Piccolo fuse with King Piccolo and the result is enough to put up a fight against Super Buu. It's purely up to your imagination since we don't really know how the namekian fusion works. I'd still put my money on Piccolo though.

4) Zenkais are totally unpredictable at this point so I'd say no, Vegeta still stomps.

Thanks for answering these, DBZ Macky.

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) Super Saiyan Goku (Battle of Gods) vs. Majin Dabura.

2) Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Battle of Gods) vs. Hakaishin Beerus.

3) Super Saiyan Blue Goku (Battle of Gods) vs. Baby Janemba.

• Dabra is at best as strong as the Cell that fought Goku IMO, Goku stomps hard.
• “Destruction”
• Goku wrecks. Baby Janemba would turn out far weaker than top tier GT characters, who are far weaker than any God tiers.

4) Also what if during the Cell Games, Future Trunks had went Super Saiyan 2 from witnessing Full Power Super Saiyan Teen Gohan being beaten down by Perfect Cell.

Going by my made-up numbers, Trunks ends up a bit stronger than Gohan, but still not enough to beat Cell.

If Teen Gohan had transformed into a Super Saiyan 3 following his father and Future Trunks' deaths during the Cell Games, would he have won against Super Perfect Cell without having to have both Goku and Vegeta to helo him?

Super Saiyan 2 Gohan is already more or less on par with SPC, giving him a 4x power boost would easily make him capable of flicking Cell's head off.

Also thank you for answering too, Khin.

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) Super Saiyan Blue Goku (Resurrection of F) and Golden Frieza vs. Goku Black and Future Zamasu.

2) Imperfect Cell (after drinking enough people to become equal to Android 16) and Android 16 vs. Both Mecha Frieza and over a thousand Meta Coolers.

3) Ultimate Gohan and Super Buu (Base) vs. Legendary Super Saiyan 3 Broly and Super Janemba.

[DanielSSJ]

1) If Teen Gohan had transformed into a Super Saiyan 3 following his father and Future Trunks' deaths during the Cell Games, would he have won against Super Perfect Cell without having to have both Goku and Vegeta to helo him?

2) If Future Trunks had Full Power Super Saiyan Teen Gohan and Piccolo to train with in his second trip to the Room of Spirit and Time, would he have been strong enough to gain an edge over the Cell Juniors, prevent himself from dying from a Full Power Death Beam by Super Perfect Cell, and help in taking Super Perfect Cell down during the Cell Games?

3) If following his day in the Room of Spirit and Time, Piccolo had fused with King Piccolo before fighting in the Cell Games, would the former have won against the Cel Juniors and Cell himself?

4) If Ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta had attempted to destroy Semiperfect Cell and failed to do so, would the following Zenkai for Semiperfect Cell give him enough power to go toe to toe with Ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta?

1) Gohan at SS3 would be more than enough to pulverize Cell with minimal effort. The power discrepancy would be so extreme that even SS3's insane energy drain wouldn't be a problem.

2) At best, he'd get up to the same level as SS Gohan. He'd be strong enough to take on the Cell Junior, but would still be killed by the penetrating beam attack.

3) Be kinda hard to fuse with Daimao, considering he doesn't exits anymore. But if he could, the most it would do is double his power and put him on par with Goku.

4) After the characters start going Super Saiyan, the healing boosts apparently become so small that they don't even matter anymore. I'm pretty sure the only reason why Cell got any significant boost from his recovery was because the damage destroyed 99.999% of his body, so unless Vegeta inflicted that kind of damage on him, I would say no.

1) Super Saiyan Blue Goku (Resurrection of F) and Golden Frieza vs. Goku Black and Future Zamasu.

2) Imperfect Cell (after drinking enough people to become equal to Android 16) and Android 16 vs. Both Mecha Frieza and over a thousand Meta Coolers.

3) Ultimate Gohan and Super Buu (Base) vs. Legendary Super Saiyan 3 Broly and Super Janemba.

1) I don't normally do Super matches, but this one seems pretty obvious. If the more advanced Goku and Vegeta can't beat Black and Zamasu, then how would a weaker version of Goku and Mister-no-Stamina Freeza win?

2) Freeza gets taken out in a second. However, even if Cell and #16 are stronger than Coola, I can't imagine that they're so strong as to beat 1,000 Coolas.

3) Broli is fodder compared to Gohan or Boo. Janemba, is somewhere between Evil Boo and Ultimate Gohan, and would fall to their combined strength.

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) Super Saiyan Blue Goku (Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F) vs. Super Saiyan Vegeta (Saiyan Saga), Full Power Frieza (Frieza Saga), Super Perfect Cell (Cell Games Saga), and Kid Buu (Majin Buu Saga).

2) Piccolo (with weights, Cell Games Saga) vs. Super Garlic Junior (Garlic Junior Saga), Dr. Wheelo, Turles (after he had taken two Fruits of the Tree of Might), and Great Namek Lord Slug.

3) Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks (with Brave Sword equipped, Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound incarnation) vs. Fifth Form Cooler, Meta Cooler Core, Super Android 13, and Legendary Super Saiyan Broly (Movie Eight).

4) If Vegeta had rose to claim the legendary power of Super Saiyan for himself during the Frieza Saga, would the Saiyan Prince turn on Goku and the others even after getting rid of Frieza himself?

5) If the Scourge of the Universe, Frieza, had his older brother, Cooler, arrive to help him against Super Saiyan Goku during the Frieza Saga, with both of them starting in their fourth forms in the fight against the Super Saiyan, would Goku have won?

6) If upon his awakening into his Imperfect form, Cell had joined the battle with Super Saiyan Future Gohan against the cruel Androids of their future, would this change in history result in Future Gohan surviving his final battle against the Androids?

7) Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F) vs. Super Baby Vegeta 2, Super 17 (10x Kamehameha Absorbed), Eis Shenron, and Omega Shenron.

[Hellspawn28]

Akira Toriyama vs. Todd McFarlane

Battle of creating rectons. Who wins ?!?

[DanielSSJ]

1) Super Saiyan Blue Goku (Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F) vs. Super Saiyan Vegeta (Saiyan Saga), Full Power Frieza (Frieza Saga), Super Perfect Cell (Cell Games Saga), and Kid Buu (Majin Buu Saga).

2) Piccolo (with weights, Cell Games Saga) vs. Super Garlic Junior (Garlic Junior Saga), Dr. Wheelo, Turles (after he had taken two Fruits of the Tree of Might), and Great Namek Lord Slug.

3) Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks (with Brave Sword equipped, Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound incarnation) vs. Fifth Form Cooler, Meta Cooler Core, Super Android 13, and Legendary Super Saiyan Broly (Movie Eight).

4) If Vegeta had rose to claim the legendary power of Super Saiyan for himself during the Frieza Saga, would the Saiyan Prince turn on Goku and the others even after getting rid of Frieza himself?

5) If the Scourge of the Universe, Frieza, had his older brother, Cooler, arrive to help him against Super Saiyan Goku during the Frieza Saga, with both of them starting in their fourth forms in the fight against the Super Saiyan, would Goku have won?

6) If upon his awakening into his Imperfect form, Cell had joined the battle with Super Saiyan Future Gohan against the cruel Androids of their future, would this change in history result in Future Gohan surviving his final battle against the Androids?

7) Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F) vs. Super Baby Vegeta 2, Super 17 (10x Kamehameha Absorbed), Eis Shenron, and Omega Shenron.

1) There's no way that the past bad guys would be remotely a threat for SS Blue Goku.

2) Same as the last match. Piccolo's power advantage is so extreme that none of his opponents could hope to hurt him. Even Immortal Garlic Jr wouldn't escape, seeing how Piccolo, having fused with God by this point, would know how to perform the Mafuba and could seal him away.

3) If Trunks just had to fight Broli, he might be able to win. However adding all those other guys into the mix tip the odds in the bad guys favor.

4) A hypothetical Freeza arc Super Saiyan Vegeta would be more-or-less on par with Freeza at 100%, and would likely win, due to Freeza's poor stamina. However, he'd probably be heavily damaged by that point, and might succumb to the combined efforts of the good guy squad. Key word here being might.

5) Without his fifth form, Coola is a few points below Freeza. The two together would make things very difficult for Goku, but he'd overcome the brothers in the end.

6) Possibly. If Cell and Gohan trained together, they'd quickly outstrip the Androids in a few years and be able to whoop their butts.

7) Super and GT? Not touching this one with an expanding Nyoi-Bo.

[Pocket-God]

Movies and Specials Villains Equal PL Tourny-
as the name states power levels are equalized so it's a battle of skill/abilities which almost all the movie villains have right? No Immortality for Garlic and no repairs for Metal Cooler. Also this is Beerus from the BoG movie-

-Block A-

LSSJ Broly vs Hirudegarn
Lord Slug vs Hatchiyack
Winner of Match 1 vs Winner of Match 2

-Block B-

Abo and Kado (Fused Version) vs Super Bojack
Dr. Wheelo vs Super 13
Winner of Match 1 vs Winner of Match 2

-Block C-

Garlic Jr. vs Super Janemba
Turles vs Beerus
Winner of Match 1 vs Winner of Match 2

-Block D-

Salza vs Chilled
Zangya vs Metal Cooler
Winner of Match 1 vs Winner of Match 2

-Finals-

Winner of Block A vs Winner of Block B
Winner of Block C vs Winner of Block D
Loser of Match 1 vs Loser of Match 2 (Third place decider)
Winner of Match 1 vs Winner of Match 2 (First and Second place decider)

[Bullza]

King Chappa vs Mercenary Tao

[Steven Bloodriver]

King Chappa vs Mercenary Tao

Mercenary Tao would win in this fight with his greater amount of Ki control.

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Baby Saga) vs. Tagoma (after enduring his training with Frieza).

2) Piccolo Daimao (Youth Restored) vs. Raditz. (But both being at the same power level.)

[Lord Beerus]

Akira Toriyama vs. Todd McFarlane

Battle of creating rectons. Who wins ?!?

Both of them. As they get continued to be given millions irregardless of quality control.

[Steven Bloodriver]

In a scenario somewhat similar to the one already done about Golden Frieza, if the incarnation of Zamasu that had possessed the body of an unknown counterpart of Goku decided to venture into the timeline of Dragon Ball GT to take the body of either an adult or the later little GT Goku, would he have been strong enough to gain access to the body of the Saiyan hero?

P. S. Also please try to give a funny response if you wish, but stay on topic.

[DanielSSJ]

1) Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Baby Saga) vs. Tagoma (after enduring his training with Frieza).

2) Piccolo Daimao (Youth Restored) vs. Raditz. (But both being at the same power level.)

1) Tagoma's only real feat is beating up Piccolo and getting his shit wrecked by a weakened Super Saiyan Gohan. You expect Goku Time Goku would need his final form to beat him?

2) Piccolo Daimao is a Dragon-Type Namekian that spends his time subjugating a race many times weaker than himself. Raditz is a member of a warrior race who routinely goes from planet to planet exterminating all life that he finds there, probably fighting against races that hold real power. Raditz likely wins.

[Noah]

New match:

- Super Saiyan 4 Goku vs. Zamasu Goku a.k.a Goku Black

[Steven Bloodriver]

New match:

- Super Saiyan 4 Goku vs. Zamasu Goku a.k.a Goku Black

No matter which version of SSJ4 Goku you use, it would take EVERYTHING he has to beat Goku Black.