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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

Post by Ajay » Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:56 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I think Tate is due around here anyway considering Shimakuni is doing 61, since Vegeta is gonna do something (it sounds like) in episode 63 I'd wager Tate will be in that.
Yeah, 62 or 63 is when Tate is next due by Super's usual rotation time, but that's kinda gone out of the window with Tate over his past two episodes.

You're probably right, though. Tate does tend to get given Vegeta-centric episodes.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:06 pm

Ajay wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I think Tate is due around here anyway considering Shimakuni is doing 61, since Vegeta is gonna do something (it sounds like) in episode 63 I'd wager Tate will be in that.
Yeah, 62 or 63 is when Tate is next due by Super's usual rotation time, but that's kinda gone out of the window with Tate over his past two episodes.

You're probably right, though. Tate does tend to get given Vegeta-centric episodes.
I'm beginning to wonder does he request them? Definitely not a coincidence.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

Post by Wezenheim » Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:59 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Ajay wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I think Tate is due around here anyway considering Shimakuni is doing 61, since Vegeta is gonna do something (it sounds like) in episode 63 I'd wager Tate will be in that.
Yeah, 62 or 63 is when Tate is next due by Super's usual rotation time, but that's kinda gone out of the window with Tate over his past two episodes.

You're probably right, though. Tate does tend to get given Vegeta-centric episodes.
I'm beginning to wonder does he request them? Definitely not a coincidence.
I'm not sure about that, but I do adore the way he draws Vegeta. His Vegeta is probably my favorite after Iseki's.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:03 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I think Tate is due around here anyway considering Shimakuni is doing 61, since Vegeta is gonna do something (it sounds like) in episode 63 I'd wager Tate will be in that.
It really depends on what we have coming after 63, if say 65 was important he might be doing that instead.
Ajay wrote: Yeah, 62 or 63 is when Tate is next due by Super's usual rotation time,
Wouldn't 62 be Toma?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

Post by Ajay » Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:18 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Ajay wrote: Yeah, 62 or 63 is when Tate is next due by Super's usual rotation time,
Wouldn't 62 be Toma?
Could be! Much like Tate, his rotation times aren't all that consistent either, so who knows. Would seem like the right choice if the show plays out the way I think it will just going by the summaries.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:31 am

ArchedThunder wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I think Tate is due around here anyway considering Shimakuni is doing 61, since Vegeta is gonna do something (it sounds like) in episode 63 I'd wager Tate will be in that.
It really depends on what we have coming after 63, if say 65 was important he might be doing that instead.
You are correct he's doing 65 which is a relief since 63 looks misleading again.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

Post by nite_jay » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:02 am

I find it intresting that it looks like they are pairing the good action animators with the mediocre ones for the most part. Hopefully they assign the better ones to the heavy action sequences.

Also, does anybody know what key animation Takashi is responsible for?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

Post by Ajay » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:30 am

nite_jay wrote: Also, does anybody know what key animation Takashi is responsible for?
Koji (or Takashi, depending on where you look) Nashizawa has been responsible for a bunch, so it's cool/not too surprising to see him promoted.

He's probably most well known for the opening fight in episode 8 with Vegeta and Beerus. He also contributed most of the non-Tate action in episode 11.

I haven't really seen him stand out much since then. I only started thinking about him again recently because of doing that Battle of God arc overview with Wes, and my own project this week.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

Post by nite_jay » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:40 am

Can't say I'm excited for his episode, then. The Beerus-Vegeta fight had some interesting choreography but it looked weird because they just kept using 1 frame and manipulating it as a workaround. Hopefully this time he has enough time to have the fight be properly animated.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:48 am

So not only are we getting Yashima teamed up with someone for the first time, we're getting it TWO weeks in a row?! I wonder if we'll see some nice action from him like in 46. The lack of Toma is weird, hopefully he shows up after 65, or maybe Yashima being listed twice is a typo.
I'm glad to see Manabe again, hopefully he's a regular now.
Also Tate and Ishikawa teamed up again for the episode following Zamasu and Black's fusion, nice!
I'm very interested to see Nashizawa try out the supervisor role, the last episode he worked on was ages ago.
Still no Onishi, guess he is gone.
If the action is still going after 65 it will be interesting to see who supervises the following episodes, they are kinda blowing their load on good supervisors.
If we get Gogeta/Vegetto I bet that episode is Yamamuro.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

Post by Ajay » Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:24 am

Posting the staff list here for the sake of reference and also because some names were wrong on the one currently circulating:

#62
Scenario: Yoshifumi Fukushima
Director & Storyboard: Masanori Satō
Animation Supervisor(s): Yukihiro Kitano & Koji Nashizawa

#63
Scenario: Toshio Yoshitaka
Director & Storyboard: Kazuya Karasawa
Animation Supervisor(s): Yoshitaka Yashima & Shūichirō Manabe

#64
Scenario: King Ryū
Director & Storyboard: Kōhei Hatano
Animation Supervisor(s): Yoshitaka Yashima & Yūichi Karasawa

#65
Scenario: Atsuhiro Tomioka
Director & Storyboard: Ryōta Nakamura
Animation Supervisor(s): Osamu Ishikawa & Naoki Tate

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I think I'll be surprised if Yashima's name on #63 isn't a typo. I mean, it's not totally out of the question as he is the type of animator to juggle several things at once, and of course did animate on Karasawa's last episode, but it is a bit weird.

I'm sort of secretly hoping that Miyako Tsuji isn't the chief supervisor on episode 65. I like her and I think she does wonders for upping the polish of certain episodes, but she has just as heavy a hand as Yamamuro, and it annoyed me seeing her overdraw Tate in #56 so much. If someone's correcting Tate, I much prefer it to be a 2nd key animator with a lighter touch, much like you saw in episode 47.
nite_jay wrote:Can't say I'm excited for his episode, then. The Beerus-Vegeta fight had some interesting choreography but it looked weird because they just kept using 1 frame and manipulating it as a workaround. Hopefully this time he has enough time to have the fight be properly animated.
I wouldn't judge anyone by their work on the Battle of Gods arc. That whole thing was a bizarre mess. I guess the important thing to take away from it is the character art, which was pretty solid, assuming the parts I'm thinking of are definitely him.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:43 am

EDIT: Wait, is Kazuhisa Takenōchi the same one from OG Dragon Ball and DBZ???
Ajay wrote:
I think I'll be surprised if Yashima's name on #63 isn't a typo. I mean, it's not totally out of the question as he is the type of animator to juggle several things at once, and of course did animate on Karasawa's last episode, but it is a bit weird.
It could definitely be a typo, but when you think about it it isn't actually that strange. Yashima usually works either alone or with one or two animators, so when you consider that he's paired up with two talented supervisors and will likely have anywhere from 7 to 20 animators working with him on each episode it doesn't seem all that weird. He'll be working on two episodes back to back, but his work load for both episodes combined will probably be similar to or smaller than his work load on one of his regular episodes.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

Post by Ajay » Fri Oct 07, 2016 9:35 am

ArchedThunder wrote:EDIT: Wait, is Kazuhisa Takenōchi the same one from OG Dragon Ball and DBZ???
Nah, I just made a mistake. I fixed it now. I was cross-referencing names between Animator's Corner and Kanzenshuu, but if Kanzenshuu doesn't have an entry for a Super episode yet, it redirects to the corresponding Z episode. I didn't notice it had redirected and copied the wrong name.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Oct 07, 2016 9:54 am

I would pair King Ryu with Tate, because that combo already proved to do wonders (episode 11 and 56).
But since Karasawa is one of my favourites, I'm hyped!

Didn't know who Koji Nashizawa was, until read Ajay's comment above. I liked Vegeta vs Beerus fight in Super more than in the Movie, so I'm curious to see what he will pull off now with a much better schedule.

It's cool to see new supervisors pop up, especially if we don't lose anyone.

Looks like Ryo Onishi is indeed gone for good, but where is Yamamuro? The action don't seem to stop at episode 65 if Black+Zamasu is indeed the Supreme God, so I want him back.

Strange Mini-Shida is still not an animation supervisor, considering the heavy role he had in ROF Special. Maybe like Shida he doesn't want to become one?!
Hard to guess which episode Shida will appear. I will put my bets on episode 64, the fusion episode.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Oct 07, 2016 9:57 am

Kitano and Yashima aren't solo'ing episodes so that's a relief. I guess Yashima doing two episodes with another supervisor is like him solo'ing one or does it not work like that?

Also if Yashima is a typo on one of them the correct one would have be Toma right?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

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EDIT: Ajay, what is this?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuK32hkWgAASsqn.jpg
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Kitano and Yashima aren't solo'ing episodes so that's a relief. I guess Yashima doing two episodes with another supervisor is like him solo'ing one or does it not work like that?

Also if Yashima is a typo on one of them the correct one would have be Toma right?
Depending on the number of animators on Yashima's two episodes and how big his actual work load is he might actually have less work with these two episodes combined than a normal episode for him.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

Post by Ajay » Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:30 am

ArchedThunder wrote:EDIT: Ajay, what is this?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuK32hkWgAASsqn.jpg
Not sure precisely. Looks like the side of Yamamuro's head and the bottom bit says "Involved in almost all Dragon Ball movies", so I guess it probably is him.

No idea if that drawing is actually from something or if he's just doing it for the camera.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

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Ajay wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:EDIT: Ajay, what is this?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuK32hkWgAASsqn.jpg
Not sure precisely. Looks like the side of Yamamuro's head and the bottom bit says "Involved in almost all Dragon Ball movies", so I guess it probably is him.

No idea if that drawing is actually from something or if he's just doing it for the camera.
Could be for a Super episode, Goku's wearing his current outfit and is slightly damaged, guess we'll find out.
I'm surprised by the nose, also one of the eyes has a curve, if only the eyebrows had curves.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

Post by Noah » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:40 pm

Episode 61 leaked image:

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #60]

Post by Sodhi » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:41 pm

That's actually a leak for #62. Definitely looks like Kitano.

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