"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[ShinTenshin]

Vegeta say he want to beat Black on his own. And after the battle between Vegeta and Black, Zamasu is forced to use the potara to fuse. It's pretty clear the fusion is the result of the defeat of one of them and Zamasu can't lose...

[LightBing]

These titles are so promising. I hope they can wrap everything up nicely. The Gods apparent new rule (which Beerus mentioned) might be an easy way to explain these weird timelines.
I never thought Goku Black and Zamasu were planing to fuse, I guess that's the only way to surpass their ultimate barrier, Zeno-chan.

[Lujin_16]

Oh no some fans will believe now that Vegeta & Goku will fuse to just like Black Goku and Zamasu i hope not

[SansrivaaL]

Vegeta say he want to beat Black on his own. And after the battle between Vegeta and Black, Zamasu is forced to use the potara to fuse. It's pretty clear the fusion is the result of the defeat of one of them and Zamasu can't lose...

I dont see where youre getting the whole Vegeta's gonna beat Black when the summaries were clear that Black and Zamasu far surpasses them. They'll likely fuse because of another reason, either its because of the Mafuba or they simply want Goku and co. to feel complete desperation and hopelessness.

[namekiansaiyan]

Oh no some fans will believe now that Vegeta & Goku will fuse to just like Black Goku and Zamasu i hope not

They would have fused already if they thought it would work.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Oh no some fans will believe now that Vegeta & Goku will fuse to just like Black Goku and Zamasu i hope not

Yeah can't see either. They don't have any portara (unless they get given it when they go back in the past) Definitely seems like Mafuba is going to be their trump card.

[SansrivaaL]

Oh no some fans will believe now that Vegeta & Goku will fuse to just like Black Goku and Zamasu i hope not

They would have fused already if they thought it would work.

Considering how dumb and childishly out of character Goku's been lately in this arc he may have forgotten the whole fusion thing, and we all know there is literally no way Vegeta would even want to fuse with Goku again. Tho they may try and want to fuse after seeing their enemy fuse, Goku be like 'hey they fused, thats so not fair, lets fuse too Vegeta." with Vegeta declining the offer.

And if I remember correctly they prefer fighting 1 on 1 if possible, they only fused before because Boo kept on absorbing strong people which was unfair in their views. Goku's a fair dude, he even said "we'll become immortal too!" via senzu beans which was dumb af.

[Lujin_16]

Oh no some fans will believe now that Vegeta & Goku will fuse to just like Black Goku and Zamasu i hope not

Yeah can't see either. They don't have any portara (unless they get given it when they go back in the past) Definitely seems like Mafuba is going to be their trump card.

You know some will now say it is confirmed that's what i don't like just wait and see what will happen otherwise you will be disappointed

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Vegeta say he want to beat Black on his own. And after the battle between Vegeta and Black, Zamasu is forced to use the potara to fuse. It's pretty clear the fusion is the result of the defeat of one of them and Zamasu can't lose...

I think you are jumping to conclusions way too quickly. The episode summary of 63 barely mentions Vegeta and the title mentions that the curtain has risen for Vegeta which implies the battle just begins. Next episode does mention merging of the pair but that is all way too less information to say Vegeta defeated one of them thus they have to merge. Remember in episode 56, Black went Rosé to show off and not out of desperatness cuz Vegeta was beating him so bad.

[vilker]

ok my bet:

They use the Mafuba against Black. Black is Zamasu in Goku's body so if the Mafuba is executed successfully, Zamasu will end locked and the other zamasu immediatly will change his potala to the other ear in order to fuse with Goku's body. The result will be an inmortal Zamaku.

[TheMikado]

Will this be an actual thing, then?
[spoiler][/spoiler]

Guess this means that with them merged, they'll BOTH be sealed because of immortality.

Where's this from? It looks like Xicor

[SonsOfUlron21]

Why is this arc call Future Trunks arc should've called it Zamasu's Arc.

Anyway I don't think Goku and Vegeta will fuse they like to fight alone but who knows what Toriyama is thinking he always does the opposite of what the fans expect.

[HeroR]

I was sorta hoping they wouldn't fuse and the fight would remain two on how many people Goku brings. But things sound so crazy that I want to know what is happening.

Why is this arc call Future Trunks arc should've called it Zamasu's Arc.

Anyway I don't think Goku and Vegeta will fuse they like to fight alone but who knows what Toriyama is thinking he always does the opposite of what the fans expect.

Because Zamasu being Black and there many several Zamasu is a spoiler. Also, according to Black and Zamasu, Trunks is the reason why everything happened.

[SansrivaaL]

Heck I want a new form not a fusion, I dont want another Gogeta throw in our faces, and please no Zeno button to the rescue.

[HeroR]

Heck I want a new form not a fusion, I dont want another Gogeta throw in our faces, and please no Zeno button to the rescue.

Glad we're not getting a new form. That is cliche since it retreads the Freeza and Cell Saga.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Why is this arc call Future Trunks arc should've called it Zamasu's Arc.

Anyway I don't think Goku and Vegeta will fuse they like to fight alone but who knows what Toriyama is thinking he always does the opposite of what the fans expect.

Same reason why the U6 tournament arc was called the Champa arc.

[Cetra]

ok my bet:

They use the Mafuba against Black. Black is Zamasu in Goku's body so if the Mafuba is executed successfully, Zamasu will end locked and the other zamasu immediatly will change his potala to the other ear in order to fuse with Goku's body. The result will be an inmortal Zamaku.

I doubt that the Mafuba is for Black but for the other Zamas because the other Zamas is the immortal one.

And who said it months ago that Black will probably fuse? I did. Does not make much sense though because if it is no collective consciousness that holds both of them intact they just give up their consciousness which means the person they are would die to create the new life of a new person.

And the "you are the cause of it all" is a classic bootstrap paradox moment.

Also - Toriyama-san said in an interview once that a fusion can fuse again. So maybe this demands a Goku, Vegeta, Trunks fusion to win? Not that I really think it but of course it is a possibility.

[HeroR]

ok my bet:

They use the Mafuba against Black. Black is Zamasu in Goku's body so if the Mafuba is executed successfully, Zamasu will end locked and the other zamasu immediatly will change his potala to the other ear in order to fuse with Goku's body. The result will be an inmortal Zamaku.

I doubt that the Mafuba is for Black but for the other Zamas because the other Zamas is the immortal one.

And who said it months ago that Black will probably fuse? I did.

And the "you are the cause of it all" is a classic bootstrap paradox moment.

Also - Toriyama-san said in an interview once that a fusion can fuse again. So maybe this demands a Goku, Vegeta, Trunks fusion to win? Not that I really think it but of course it is a possibility.

Don't think so, because Zamasu shouldn't lose his immortalityimmortality upon fusion. So Goku and Vegeta can't be him by overpowering them.

I still want to know why they fuse. I don't think they were losing given that Goku says in the summary that they can't win directly.

[Cetra]

I still want to know why they fuse. I don't think they were losing given that Goku says in the summary that they can't win directly.

Do they need a reason other than arrogance? Freeza just transformed to his true form just to own his enemies even more.

[HeroR]

I still want to know why they fuse. I don't think they were losing given that Goku says in the summary that they can't win directly.

Do they need a reason other than arrogance? Freeza just transformed to his true form just to own his enemies even more.

Freeza just went to his true form. Black and Zamasu are united body and mind forever, unless they intend to use the Dragon Balls. That's not something you do lightly, especially if there is no pressing reason.