"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by Noah » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:35 pm

SansrivaaL wrote:Cute, did you really need to get an attitude just to prove a point?
Didnt get that by fusing it makes it easier for them to dispose of their enemies with the huge boost in power since it seems even Trunks is able to hold em off? :roll:
Well, one target is easier to catch than two (one is the real target and the second is his support), don't you think?
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Taking them to the battle field is dangerous. One touch by Black and they're likely dead. Goku, Vegeta and Trunks are the strongest they have it makes sense one of them would have to learn it.
As far we've been following Super, we know this is not true since things like: Rageta and common SSJ Trunks resisting Rosé Black are a thing, so I would not be impressed to see Piccolo actually trading some blows with Black too for example :)
HeroR wrote:After he fought him in Eps 53. Specifically, Goku said that he's trembling like he did against Beerus and Zamasu could surpass Beerus one day, to which Beerus took offense to.
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Post by Helios518 » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:37 pm

HeroR wrote:
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Goku learning Mafuba from Roshi still makes me happy seeing it would be nice that Goku is learning something from Roshi again. Also the fusion of Black and Zamasu is going to be pretty epic. Goku mention Future Zamasu being as powerful as Beerus, so a fusion should be put them at least on the same level as Whis or maybe higher.
When did he say this?
After he fought him in Eps 53. Specifically, Goku said that he's trembling like he did against Beerus and Zamasu could surpass Beerus one day, to which Beerus took offense to.
That doesn't imply Zamasu is near Beerus's level unless you want to believe now Current Arc SSJ2 Goku is far above Champa Arc SSJB Goku.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:38 pm

Man, these new spoilers have me really hyped. The very good probability of Zamasu merging with Black (Present Zamasu), Future Trunks taking on Zamasu and Black (Present Zamasu) on his own, the return of the Mafuba (already commented on that)... This is all shaping up to being an explosive conclusion (?) to this arc. I mean, the very fact that Present Zamasu is Black just further adds the confusion but also great intrigue into how this arc will play out. If Toei can manage to nail the landing of the payoff(s) for this arc, then I think it may go down as the best arc of Dragon Ball since the Saiyan arc, for me at least personally. There are some many incentives to tune for the many more weeks, beyond just the potential battles. There are general mysterious within the story and so far we're only getting breadcrumbs as the "who", "what", "where", "why" and "when". And I love that. I love it so much when Dragon Ball always has you guessing more than twice while you wait for the next episode. I also demand that Future Trunks gets a new form because unless he plans on fighting dirty, I can't imagine how he can hold off Zamasu and Black (Present Zamasu) with just his SSJ form. But given how much the writers love him, that will probably be the case.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:43 pm

Typing "Dragon Ball Super" into Google. First article that pops up has the headline "'Dragon Ball Super' Episode 62 Spoilers: Trunks Transforms Into Super Saiyan Blue As Zamasu & Black Attacks Bulma". :problem: seriously how are sites keep getting away with this and keep getting propped up by Google?

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Post by SansrivaaL » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:45 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
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dbzfan7 wrote:Waiting to see how it plays out, but I don't like the idea that Goku and Vegeta go back to the past, and Trunks somehow is supposed to keep on fighting Black and Zamasu. Unless he's at the very least a Bluper, I'm probably not gonna like what I see. Couldn't Vegeta have stayed.
Seems powerlevel stuffs has really been thrown out, how Trunks is able to hold those 2 off is beyond me, even Rageboost is pushing it.
We'll have to see. I'm saying I don't like the sound of the idea, I don't know the execution yet. Running and hiding a bunch sounds about the best idea, considering he should be way out matched. I'd accept that. Fighting them both head on is silly and stupid. Even a rage boost wouldn't mean shit as if SSJB can't get the job done, that can't do much of anything. But we'll see how it plays out, before I make a call.
I really doubt it unless the "Trunks' Angry Super Power Explosion" title means his super power of hiding and explosion of running.

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Post by HeroR » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:45 pm

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Which techniques would those be? I recall him imitating a weaker mediocre version of Roshi's Kamehameha at the beginning of the series. At the 21st tournament, Goku is unable to replicate the Drunken Fist style, presumably due to a lack of indulgence with alcohol which is an integral part of grasping the unpredictable motions of such an inebriated state, so he resorts to an improvised Mad Dog stance instead. Admittedly, he does grasp the Afterimage shortly after Jackie Chun used it. I think the next incident of him "copying" a technique is with Tenshinhan's Shiyouken, though he didn't sprout tangible limbs from his back like Tenshinhan did; it was a rapidly repeating motion of the arms to give the illusion of having extra appendages which he actually acquired from King Chappa. Following this, the ability to sense Ki required years of meditative training despite having witnessed Popo use it. To put this in perspective, Vegeta learned how to sense Ki not too long after having battled with Goku and the others. He does show knowledge of the Taiyoken and Kienzan, but this is years after he first witnessed these techniques. It's not indicative of having grasped abilities any better than Tenshinhan has. Granted, I overlooked the time span in which Tenshinhan learned the Mafuba. Regarding King Kai -- we're not aware of any of the particulars concerning the training with others. Given the fact that Piccolo wasn't aware of the Spirit Bomb's existence, though, it's likely neither he or the others were intended to learn them by King Kai.

Roshi was revived usign the Earth's Dragonballs, but the same doesn't hold true for either Tenshinhan or Piccolo. They were revived both times using the Namekian Dragonballs which we know do not have a limit in the amount of times they can revive someone. As for the non-existence of the future Dragonballs, the group could always bring their version and use them in the future. Nothing is preventing them from doing so as far as we know. Goku also has in the past been willing to entrust the fate of the world to others, even when they were initially uncertain of the prospect. This occasion should be no different, especially if they're volunteering to do so.

The Micro Band has yet to be used for the same reason any other retro device or concept hasn't in spite of their potential usefulness to the present conflict. It's why Akkuman was never called upon to kill the Saiyans, Freeza or the cyborgs with his technique. And the reason why I cited Kaioshin instead of Beerus is because of his teleportation ability and the possible applications with it. Beerus can't teleport.
Goku mimic a weakened Kamehameha before he had any real training since his grandfather died years ago. Tien by the time he copied the Kamehameha was older and was more well-trained. Goku couldn't copy the Drunken Fist specifically because he never got drunk before, so he created a counter, Mad Dog and Crazy Monkey. He actually used King Chappa Eight-Arm Technique against Tien, not the Four Witches. I would also argue that Goku began to sense ki as soon as the 22nd Tournament. He knew that Tien was more powerful than he let on, he felt Master Roshi die to King Piccolo, and he sensed where Piccolo was after drinking the Ultra Divine Water. His training with Kami was only fine tuning it, which works since he has one of the best ki sense in the series. Also, Goku never actually saw Krillin use the Kienzan. The closest would be Freeza's tracing version. He also did use the Solar Flare better than Tien at the 23rd Tournament. He kept the Solar Flare going for several minutes after using it and could turn it off at any time, instead of the quick flash. I should also point out that Piccolo was only with King Kai for a couple of days before he was revived and went to Namek, while Tien was there for a three fourths of a year.

Piccolo needed the Namekian Dragon Balls according to Goku in Super when Frieza killed him. And why would they bring their version to the future. No one has never suggested that, not even once. Plus, if they do that, they would have to return to Trunks' time in a year's time to get them and we don't even know if the Dragon Balls can be used that way. Goku is willing to entrust the future to others, true. Letting them die when he can do something isn't one of them.

The Supreme Kai isn't going to the future. He wasn't even with them when they went back to Earth.
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That doesn't imply Zamasu is near Beerus's level unless you want to believe now Current Arc SSJ2 Goku is far above Champa Arc SSJB Goku.
He can someday according to Goku, and Future Zamasu is older than Present Zamasu who was able to trade blows with Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:49 pm

Noah wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:Cute, did you really need to get an attitude just to prove a point?
Didnt get that by fusing it makes it easier for them to dispose of their enemies with the huge boost in power since it seems even Trunks is able to hold em off? :roll:
Well, one target is easier to catch than two (one is the real target and the second is his support), don't you think?
Fusing into 1 being that would fodderize his enemies seems to be a better choice than split in 2 and being stalled by Trunks (God knows how this is even possible) and the latter Vegeta joins the fray. Time isnt exactly on their side now more so if Goku learns the mafuba, being stalled is not a good option.

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Post by Michelle91 » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:00 pm

I guess they will beat Zamku Black (I don't know what to call him) with the Mafuba seeing that the fusion will already be immortal. No way Goku can do the Mafuba on his own a enemy this powerful. My guess is that they will have to have to fuse into Gogeta or Vegito and do the Mafuba as one of those fusions. However I would think we would see merchandise for SSjB Vegito or Gogeta by now though.
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Post by Kishido » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:32 pm

Where is 64 summary?

And if we are at it... if Gogeta will happen and use the Mafuba... will both die?

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Post by Sora Saiyan » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:37 pm

Oh wow! These spoilers have me hyped!! Hopefully Gogeta vs Zamasu fusion will happen. it would seem poetic, the metamoran (mortal) fusion vs the the God fusion. Really hoping it happens even if it is futile.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:40 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Typing "Dragon Ball Super" into Google. First article that pops up has the headline "'Dragon Ball Super' Episode 62 Spoilers: Trunks Transforms Into Super Saiyan Blue As Zamasu & Black Attacks Bulma". :problem: seriously how are sites keep getting away with this and keep getting propped up by Google?
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Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Typing "Dragon Ball Super" into Google. First article that pops up has the headline "'Dragon Ball Super' Episode 62 Spoilers: Trunks Transforms Into Super Saiyan Blue As Zamasu & Black Attacks Bulma". :problem: seriously how are sites keep getting away with this and keep getting propped up by Google?
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Post by YonedgeHP » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:44 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I guess they will beat Zamku Black (I don't know what to call him)
Maybe Zamack or... wait. 17+17 = Super 17, so: Zamas + Zamas = Super Zamas?
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Post by Grimlock » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:45 pm

Sora Saiyan wrote:Oh wow! These spoilers have me hyped!! Hopefully Gogeta vs Zamasu fusion will happen. it would seem poetic, the metamoran (mortal) fusion vs the the God fusion. Really hoping it happens even if it is futile.
You do know the moment Gogeta becomes beyond God or Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, his fusion will also be God, right? :P

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Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Typing "Dragon Ball Super" into Google. First article that pops up has the headline "'Dragon Ball Super' Episode 62 Spoilers: Trunks Transforms Into Super Saiyan Blue As Zamasu & Black Attacks Bulma". :problem: seriously how are sites keep getting away with this and keep getting propped up by Google?
"Bulma's Death to Trigger Vegeta; Super Saiyan White Revealed"

So, possibly a Black/Zamasu Fusion? What'll it be called? Blamasu? Zamack?

...probably just Zamasu.
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Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Typing "Dragon Ball Super" into Google. First article that pops up has the headline "'Dragon Ball Super' Episode 62 Spoilers: Trunks Transforms Into Super Saiyan Blue As Zamasu & Black Attacks Bulma". :problem: seriously how are sites keep getting away with this and keep getting propped up by Google?
"Bulma's Death to Trigger Vegeta; Super Saiyan White Revealed"

So, possibly a Black/Zamasu Fusion? What'll it be called? Blamasu? Zamack?

...probably just Zamasu.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:52 pm

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Hellspawn28 wrote:I guess they will beat Zamku Black (I don't know what to call him)
Maybe Zamack or... wait. 17+17 = Super 17, so: Zamas + Zamas = Super Zamas?
17 + 17 should be 34. :lol:
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Post by Sora Saiyan » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:55 pm

Grimlock wrote:
Sora Saiyan wrote:Oh wow! These spoilers have me hyped!! Hopefully Gogeta vs Zamasu fusion will happen. it would seem poetic, the metamoran (mortal) fusion vs the the God fusion. Really hoping it happens even if it is futile.
You do know the moment Gogeta becomes beyond God or Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, his fusion will also be God, right? :P
:shh: Just ignore that part. :lol:

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Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Typing "Dragon Ball Super" into Google. First article that pops up has the headline "'Dragon Ball Super' Episode 62 Spoilers: Trunks Transforms Into Super Saiyan Blue As Zamasu & Black Attacks Bulma". :problem: seriously how are sites keep getting away with this and keep getting propped up by Google?
"Bulma's Death to Trigger Vegeta; Super Saiyan White Revealed"

So, possibly a Black/Zamasu Fusion? What'll it be called? Blamasu? Zamack?

...probably just Zamasu.
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Anime Kitten wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Typing "Dragon Ball Super" into Google. First article that pops up has the headline "'Dragon Ball Super' Episode 62 Spoilers: Trunks Transforms Into Super Saiyan Blue As Zamasu & Black Attacks Bulma". :problem: seriously how are sites keep getting away with this and keep getting propped up by Google?
"Bulma's Death to Trigger Vegeta; Super Saiyan White Revealed"

So, possibly a Black/Zamasu Fusion? What'll it be called? Blamasu? Zamack?

...probably just Zamasu.
How about... Zazamamasusu?
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