"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Lord Beerus]

Viz has released the translated 9th chapter of the manga

[THEGOKU]

That is the final chapter for the first volume correct?

[Lord Beerus]

That is the final chapter for the first volume correct?

Yes, it is.

[THEGOKU]

That is the final chapter for the first volume correct?

Yes, it is.

It's amazing going back and looking at the chapters how much content was covered vs the anime. Honestly I prefer the manga and you can really see how much better he is getting at creating it as it progresses. He still does the multiple arms drawings during fights though a bit too much and that's even from his AF days. It's not annoying it is just used too often.

[Lord Beerus]

That is the final chapter for the first volume correct?

Yes, it is.

It's amazing going back and looking at the chapters how much content was covered vs the anime. Honestly I prefer the manga and you can really see how much better he is getting at creating it as it progresses. He still does the multiple arms drawings during fights though a bit too much and that's even from his AF days. It's not annoying it is just used too often.

Toyotaro has really come a long way. His art has become much more refined and his streamlined version of the events in the Super anime has been fantastic.

[THEGOKU]

Yes, it is.

It's amazing going back and looking at the chapters how much content was covered vs the anime. Honestly I prefer the manga and you can really see how much better he is getting at creating it as it progresses. He still does the multiple arms drawings during fights though a bit too much and that's even from his AF days. It's not annoying it is just used too often.

Toyotaro has really come a long way. His art has become much more refined and his streamlined version of the events in the Super anime has been fantastic.

I 100% agree. Even though you can tell that it is the same artist his attention to detail is a lot more different and he does more with each panel than before. With there being a big fight in the next chapter between Goku and Black I would have to assume this next one will be his best so far.

[ryou766]

The anticipation for next chapter is killing me.

[Grimlock]

Yeah, now I want to see Toyotaro's version of what just happened in the anime. And hopefully a better explanation about all of this alternate timeline stuff. I still didn't fully get it.

[ryou766]

And hopefully a better explanation about all of this alternate timeline stuff. I still didn't fully get it.

I'm going to leave it to Toyotaro too and hope he explains it more properly.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Luckily, the timeline discrepancies were explained pretty well in tonight's episode.

Zamasu #1 was from our main timeline, he was killed by Beerus.

Zamasu #2 was from the Future, he is now immortal.

Zamasu #3 (a.k.a. Goku Black) comes from a timeline where Trunks never came to the past, but Goku still went to Universe 10 and fought Zamasu (for reasons that will probably never be explained). This is likely a result of the same hidden timeline effect that occurred during the Jinzoningen Arc.

[ryou766]

Yeah, what I want to know is WHY Goku and Zamasu fought in the first place if Future Trunks never came to the past and thus was responsible for Beerus, Whis and Goku's investigation in the first place. Was Beerus and Whis just taking Goku on a journey across universes and their Kaioshin for some reason and Goku wanted to test the power of the Kaioshin of U10?

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Yeah, what I want to know is WHY Goku and Zamasu fought in the first place if Future Trunks never came to the past and thus was responsible for Beerus, Whis and Goku's investigation in the first place. Was Beerus and Whis just taking Goku on a journey across universes and their Kaioshin for some reason and Goku wanted to test the power of the Kaioshin of U10?

I doubt we'll ever know, it seems like one of those "Dragon Ball things" that we shouldn't think too hard about.

[dragonballhero]

Does anyone sort of hope that...I don't know. Toyotaro goes more into detail with the deaths of Goku's family. BTW, when I say this, I mean family AND friends. So I do mean Black actually being shown to target (and end the lives of) Gohan, Videl, Pan (if she was born by this time), Vegeta, Bulma, Trunks, Dr. and Mrs. Brief, Hercule, Majin Buu, Krillin, 18, Master Roshi, Marron, Yajirobe, Korin, Piccolo, Mr. Popo. Heck, even Dende just to ENSURE that no use of Earth's Dragon Balls would be allowed.

[ryou766]

Does anyone sort of hope that...I don't know. Toyotaro goes more into detail with the deaths of Goku's family. BTW, when I say this, I mean family AND friends. So I do mean Black actually being shown to target (and end the lives of) Gohan, Videl, Pan (if she was born by this time), Vegeta, Bulma, Trunks, Dr. and Mrs. Brief, Hercule, Majin Buu, Krillin, 18, Master Roshi, Marron, Yajirobe, Korin, Piccolo, Mr. Popo. Heck, even Dende just to ENSURE that no use of Earth's Dragon Balls would be allowed.

I have the strongest feeling that Toyotaro will make that scene much more darker than it was in the anime. Or, rather, I hope he does. Depends on how dark he can get, exactly.

[Lord Beerus]

Does anyone sort of hope that...I don't know. Toyotaro goes more into detail with the deaths of Goku's family. BTW, when I say this, I mean family AND friends. So I do mean Black actually being shown to target (and end the lives of) Gohan, Videl, Pan (if she was born by this time), Vegeta, Bulma, Trunks, Dr. and Mrs. Brief, Hercule, Majin Buu, Krillin, 18, Master Roshi, Marron, Yajirobe, Korin, Piccolo, Mr. Popo. Heck, even Dende just to ENSURE that no use of Earth's Dragon Balls would be allowed.

I have the strongest feeling that Toyotaro will make that scene much more darker than it was in the anime. Or, rather, I hope he does. Depends on how dark he can get, exactly.

I hope Toyataro goes into more depth about what happened to everyone else. But I have a horrible feeling the deaths may happen off-screen, just like what happened with Future Bulma in the manga. I mean, that wouldn't be the worst thing to happen, but just adding in those darker moments make the story all the more better.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

The manga is so far behind already and I really want him to get to the reveal of Black's origin and the timeline mess for the sake of clarity, so I would honestly prefer if Toyotaro pulled a Toriyama and didn't bother showing it. Any of it, really. I'd be perfectly fine with him just having Black say he slaughtered Goku, his family and friends after the wish was made.

[TheMikado]

The manga is so far behind already and I really want him to get to the reveal of Black's origin and the timeline mess for the sake of clarity, so I would honestly prefer if Toyotaro pulled a Toriyama and didn't bother showing it. Any of it, really. I'd be perfectly fine with him just having Black say he slaughtered Goku, his family and friends after the wish was made.

As I'm thinking about it, there's a good chance they don't jump back and forth in time as it doesn't really accomplish anything for them. I guess the most you could do is say it let them destroy present Zamasu, but that only occurred after they went and Goku fought him to begin with anyway. In theory the manga has set it self up where Goku and co could go to the future one time and the overall plot would still make sense. This would help it catch up a lot quicker.

[Grimlock]

Toyotaro (?) has been spotted at the NYCC.

[spoiler] [/spoiler]

[dragonballhero]

Does anyone sort of hope that...I don't know. Toyotaro goes more into detail with the deaths of Goku's family. BTW, when I say this, I mean family AND friends. So I do mean Black actually being shown to target (and end the lives of) Gohan, Videl, Pan (if she was born by this time), Vegeta, Bulma, Trunks, Dr. and Mrs. Brief, Hercule, Majin Buu, Krillin, 18, Master Roshi, Marron, Yajirobe, Korin, Piccolo, Mr. Popo. Heck, even Dende just to ENSURE that no use of Earth's Dragon Balls would be allowed.

I have the strongest feeling that Toyotaro will make that scene much more darker than it was in the anime. Or, rather, I hope he does. Depends on how dark he can get, exactly.

I hope Toyataro goes into more depth about what happened to everyone else. But I have a horrible feeling the deaths may happen off-screen, just like what happened with Future Bulma in the manga. I mean, that wouldn't be the worst thing to happen, but just adding in those darker moments make the story all the more better.

Honestly, I can't imagine Black would leave everyone Goku cares about alive. He'd probably kill them all off as a big middle finger to Goku from beyond the grave, and to ensure no one can use the DBs to bring Goku and his family back to life.

Personally, I would LOVE to see Toyotaro go into detail about Black killing EVERYONE Goku knows and cares about, but I feel like if he DOES take the opportunity to show Black killing everyone Goku knows and cares for, it'll probably be panel by panel. Like this: Gohan, Videl, and Pan in one panel, Krillin, 18, and Marron in another panel, etc.

[Cetra]

The manga is so far behind already and I really want him to get to the reveal of Black's origin and the timeline mess for the sake of clarity, so I would honestly prefer if Toyotaro pulled a Toriyama and didn't bother showing it. Any of it, really. I'd be perfectly fine with him just having Black say he slaughtered Goku, his family and friends after the wish was made.

His take on that will definitely be interesting and supposedly different from the anime.