The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Steven Bloodriver]

Dragon Ball vs. Yugioh!) Piccolo Junior (during the 23rd World Tournament) vs. Zorc Necrophades.

Dragon Ball Z vs. Yugioh! GX) Super Perfect Cell vs. Nightshroud (Grim Reaper Form).

Dragon Ball GT vs. Yugioh! 5D's) Super 17 vs. Red Nova (Original Earthbound Immortal Form).

Dragon Ball Super vs. Yugioh! Zexal!) Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black vs. Don Thousand (True Form).

[ZombieVito]

New Matches (No special techniques like Dodonpa or Akkumaito Beam, only good ol' martial arts):

1-Tao Pai Pai VS Son Gohan
2-Tao Pai Pai VS Chapa-o
3-Son Gohan VS Chapa-o
4-Tao Pai Pai VS Akkuman
5-Sergeant Metallic VS Akkuman
6-Sergeant Metallic VS Pirate Robot
7-General Blue VS Sgt. Metallic
8-General Blue VS Pirate Robot
9-General Blue VS Staff Officer Black
10-BoDB Goku VS T-Rex (The one who attacked Chichi, Kamehameha allowed as special case)
11-Gyumao VS Kuririn (21st Budokai)

Also, how high would you put Buyon and Botamo's attack potency? I'd say a little above 21st Budokai Kuririn and a little below First Form Frost respectively.

Son Gohan wins after a good fight.
Chappa one shots.
Chappa wins after a good fight.
Tao wins this one with moderate difficulty.
Akkuman one shots.
This is a great fight. I give it to the Pirate Robot.
Blue is stronger but I can't see him beating Metallic with just his fists.
Same as above.
Blue wins fairly easily but Black gives a good performance.
Goku easily.
Since Kuririn isn't good at Ki abilities yet, I give this one to Gyumao.

I have Buyon at 39, higher than Goku at the 21st (30). I have Botamo under Good Boo.

[Noah]

Super Perfect Cell, Dabura, Kibitoshin, Piccolo, Majin Vegeta, Broly, Bojack
ALL
vs Pure Boo

Boo laughs as he jumps around picking them all apart at once. Even the strongest of them is still a fraction of his power, and most of them don't have any special abilities to make up for that. Sheer numbers isn't going to work against any form of Boo when the power level difference is so large.

Don't you think you're exaggerating a little bit? It was not like Kid Boo slaughtered SSJ2 Vegeta immediately, even if he could (no doubt) he took some time, my point is in this match we have some guys with interesting skills, Kibitoshin could paralize Boo then Dabura would spit on him, now I'm not sure turning Majin Boo into stone would be enough to defeat him, but it's a try, anyway I think Boo would wipe all of them too, but not so fast.

It's a tough fight, but I think Gogeta's got it. I'd think all these guys are roughly in the range of Evil Boo's absorbed forms until Freeza goes Golden. Unlike with the Boos, though, Freeza doesn't have regeneration or infinite stamina for Gogeta to deal with.

Probably I already had asked this once in this thread, but where do you have Gogeta at? I can totally buy he being stronger than SSJ3 Goku and Super Gotenks of course, but already stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks without even SSJ2?

[Sailor Haumea]

Okay, here's a hypothetical battle between immortals:

Garlic Jr. with the Makyo Star vs. Future Zamasu.

Garlic Jr. can't open the Dead Zone.

Who wins?

[Lord Beerus]

Okay, here's a hypothetical battle between immortals:

Garlic Jr. with the Makyo Star vs. Future Zamasu.

Garlic Jr. can't open the Dead Zone.

Who wins?

Neither of them. The're both immortal and can't die. This fight goes on for eternity.

[Cetra]

Okay, here's a hypothetical battle between immortals:

Garlic Jr. with the Makyo Star vs. Future Zamasu.

Garlic Jr. can't open the Dead Zone.

Who wins?

Neither of them. The're both immortal and can't die. This fight goes on for eternity.

Zamas wins because he KOs Garlic Jr.

[Hellspawn28]

Okay, here's a hypothetical battle between immortals:

Garlic Jr. with the Makyo Star vs. Future Zamasu.

Garlic Jr. can't open the Dead Zone.

Who wins?

Zamasu wins via knock out

[Steven Bloodriver]

Dragon Ball vs. Yugioh!) Piccolo Junior (during the 23rd World Tournament) vs. Zorc Necrophades.

Dragon Ball Z vs. Yugioh! GX) Super Perfect Cell vs. Nightshroud (Grim Reaper Form).

Dragon Ball GT vs. Yugioh! 5D's) Super 17 vs. Red Nova (Original Earthbound Immortal Form).

Dragon Ball Super vs. Yugioh! Zexal!) Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black vs. Don Thousand (True Form).

1) Piccolo Junior wins with either some effort or no effort at all against the Evil God.

2) Super Perfect Cell wins after a short fight, as the Bio-Android would have been simply far too strong for anything Nightshroud could do to him.

3) Even if he can't safely absorb the energy of an Earthbound Immortal, Super 17 would still win.

4) Effortlessly, Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black withstands everything Don Thousand gives him before taking out the fellow Avatar of Evil with a modestly charged Super Black Kamehameha.

[Steven Bloodriver]

Dragon Ball vs. Dragon Ball Z) Teen Goku (during the 23rd World Tournament) vs. Old Lord Slug.

Dragon Ball Z vs. Dragon Ball GT) Super Saiyan Future Trunks (Cell Games) vs. Baby (Boy Body).

Dragon Ball GT vs. Dragon Ball Super) Syn Shenron vs. Frost (Ruthless Final Form).

Dragon Ball Super vs. Dragon Ball) Present Zamasu vs. General Blue.

[Anime Kitten]

Super Saiyan 2 Gohan (Cell Games) VS Base Vegeta (Pre-Majin)
If Vegeta loses, then also SSJ Vegeta from the same era.

[Steven Bloodriver]

Super Saiyan 2 Gohan (Cell Games) VS Base Vegeta (Pre-Majin)
If Vegeta loses, then also SSJ Vegeta from the same era.

Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan would effortlessly defeat Vegeta in his base form, but with the Prince then going Super Saiyan, the son of Goku might have a hard time against his father's greatest rival.

[ZombieVito]

Super Saiyan 2 Gohan (Cell Games) VS Base Vegeta (Pre-Majin)
If Vegeta loses, then also SSJ Vegeta from the same era.

Not even SSJ2 Vegeta wins.

[Anime Kitten]

Not even SSJ2 Vegeta wins.

Could you please elaborate a bit more? Majin Vegeta (who was a Super Saiyan 2) was basically on par with SSJ2 Goku, who was apparently stronger than SSJ2 Gohan. I don't necessarily disagree, I'd just like to know why you think that.

[Noah]

Super Saiyan 2 Gohan (Cell Games) VS Base Vegeta (Pre-Majin)
If Vegeta loses, then also SSJ Vegeta from the same era.

I beg your pardon, but I suppose you're kidding... SSJ2 vs Base? SSJ2 vs SSJ? This match makes no sense whatsoever. Gohan in his peak in the Cell Games would completely obliterate Base Vegeta without any effort, less than he even made against the Cell Juniors, even if he become SSJ the result would be the same.

Not even SSJ2 Vegeta wins.

Could you please elaborate a bit more? Majin Vegeta (who was a Super Saiyan 2) was basically on par with SSJ2 Goku, who was apparently stronger than SSJ2 Gohan. I don't necessarily disagree, I'd just like to know why you think that.

I think he meant SSJ2 Vegeta before Majin, you know... Vegeta had achieved that form before Babidi but wasn't stronger as Gohan or Goku yet.

[DanielSSJ]

Dragon Ball vs. Yugioh!) Piccolo Junior (during the 23rd World Tournament) vs. Zorc Necrophades.

Dragon Ball Z vs. Yugioh! GX) Super Perfect Cell vs. Nightshroud (Grim Reaper Form).

Dragon Ball GT vs. Yugioh! 5D's) Super 17 vs. Red Nova (Original Earthbound Immortal Form).

Dragon Ball Super vs. Yugioh! Zexal!) Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black vs. Don Thousand (True Form).

The Dragon Ball characters all win against the flimsy pieces of cardboard.

[Kaboom]

Iron Man's armor typically isn't actually all that durable, so odds are that once Goku gets serious and starts using "battle level" power, he'll tear it apart and claim victory pretty easily.

It's Goku from the 21st Budokai, not the 22nd.

A-whoops. Well, let me revise that to a lazy "could go either way" answer, then.

Don't you think you're exaggerating a little bit? It was not like Kid Boo slaughtered SSJ2 Vegeta immediately, even if he could (no doubt) he took some time, my point is in this match we have some guys with interesting skills, Kibitoshin could paralize Boo then Dabura would spit on him, now I'm not sure turning Majin Boo into stone would be enough to defeat him, but it's a try, anyway I think Boo would wipe all of them too, but not so fast.

Point noted, but I guess I figured that the odds were good that Boo would have some way to overcome or be immune to whatever abilities the team had. He could just split half his body away to get out of the telekinetic hold, or tear off a limb to cut off the stone spit if it even affects him, or what have you. It's Pure Boo we're talking about.

Probably I already had asked this once in this thread, but where do you have Gogeta at? I can totally buy he being stronger than SSJ3 Goku and Super Gotenks of course, but already stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks without even SSJ2?

The way I see it is that Old Kaioshin's explanation of how Vegetto ended up so abnormally strong ("It's not the Potara, it's them.") basically means that Goku and Vegeta make for exceptionally potent Fusions, and the Potara being a superior method was just icing on the cake. Which serves to counteract whatever prior expectations there were for a Goku/Vegeta Fusion and allow Gogeta to be abnormally strong too. His power can be placed pretty much anywhere as long as it's still weaker than Vegetto's by some degree.

To make things interesting, and based on Vegetto being surprised the fight was so easy despite Goku knowing in advance the Fusion would be stronger, I place Super Gogeta as roughly equal in power to Gotenks- or Gohan-Boo. Which results in him having a tough fight against them but probably winning, like a higher-scale version of Goku or Gotenks' fights with with Pure and Evil Boo except without the SS3 drain getting in the way of his victory.

Okay, here's a hypothetical battle between immortals: Garlic Jr. with the Makyo Star vs. Future Zamasu. Garlic Jr. can't open the Dead Zone. Who wins?

I'll repeat the answer already twice given: Zamasu wins by KO. Even if he can't kill Garlic, with the massive strength difference I don't see why he couldn't knock him out.

Super Saiyan 2 Gohan (Cell Games) VS Base Vegeta (Pre-Majin)
If Vegeta loses, then also SSJ Vegeta from the same era.

Even with Bobbidi's power unlock AND using Super Saiyan 2 himself, Vegeta (and likewise Goku) weren't all that much stronger than SS2 Gohan from back then, who was still used as a benchmark. Base Vegeta here is literally a hundred times weaker than Gohan and stands no chance. Super Saiyan 1 doesn't do it for him, either. He needs his own Super Saiyan 2 to have a shot.

[DanielSSJ]

Dragon Ball vs. Dragon Ball Z) Teen Goku (during the 23rd World Tournament) vs. Old Lord Slug.

Dragon Ball Z vs. Dragon Ball GT) Super Saiyan Future Trunks (Cell Games) vs. Baby (Boy Body).

Dragon Ball GT vs. Dragon Ball Super) Syn Shenron vs. Frost (Ruthless Final Form).

Dragon Ball Super vs. Dragon Ball) Present Zamasu vs. General Blue.

- Old or not, there's no way that Slug, a Super Namekian, is losing to a woefully below-average Saiyan.
- Pass.
- Pass.
- You're kidding right?

Super Saiyan 2 Gohan (Cell Games) VS Base Vegeta (Pre-Majin)
If Vegeta loses, then also SSJ Vegeta from the same era.

What Kaboom said. Vegeta's only a bit stronger than Gohan. This isn't GT, so Vegeta isn't powerful enough that his base (which would be lower than Freeza's 100%, I might add) would be capable of beating a Super Saiyan 2.

[ZombieVito]

Not even SSJ2 Vegeta wins.

Could you please elaborate a bit more? Majin Vegeta (who was a Super Saiyan 2) was basically on par with SSJ2 Goku, who was apparently stronger than SSJ2 Gohan. I don't necessarily disagree, I'd just like to know why you think that.

Well the fight you proposed was with pre Majin Vegeta. That Vegeta was on par with a SSJ2 Gohan with no rage boost from the Boo arc. He stands no change against a raged SSJ2 Gohan from the Cell games.

New fights:

Ginyu [Tagoma] vs Perfect Cell.
Piccolo [Before training with RoF Gohan] vs East Kaioshin.
SSJ Gotenks [pre RoSaT] vs South Kaioshin.
West Kaioshin vs Perfect Cell [vs Goku].
North Kaioshin vs SSJ Goku [vs Perfect Cell].
Portara fusion of all 4 U7 Kaioshins vs Zamasu.
SSJ2 Future Trunks vs Zamasu.
SSR Black [With Kaioken x 20] vs Champa.
Gohan [Champa arc] vs Pure Boo.
Jaco vs Roshi [RoF arc].

No magic, absorption or body change.

[nickzambuto]

22nd Yamcha vs 22nd Krillin.

I feel like Yamcha gave Ten a stronger fight in the manga than Krillin gave Goku. Also Yamcha deserves every bone throw he can possibly get, so I'm alright with saying he was stronger than Krillin at this point and that Krillin didn't reach his ultimate potential until adulthood.

In the anime the fights were more similar, with Ten and Goku both more or less toying with Yamcha and Krillin respectively. However as far as the manga goes, Yamcha was a legitimate challenge to Ten.

[nickzambuto]

Chapa-o is really hard to place. On one hand, I like the idea of Goku starting off the 22nd Budokai by completely humiliating someone as strong as he was during the last tournament, and Chapa's accolade of winning a Budokai without being touched is similar to the way 21st Jackie Chun fought Yamcha, meaning they could be similar assuming Yamcha is representative of a typical Budokai fighter (I think he is, he was likely weaker than Giran at that time). On the other hand, Mummy was also indicated to be around as strong or even stronger than 21st Goku, and Goku during Baba's Tournament oneshotted him. Yamcha and Jackie Chun wouldn't be so shocked that Goku easily defeated Chapa-o if he wasn't a lot stronger than Mummy, especially since he defeated Mummy easier. So the idea of Goku curbstomping himself to showcase his training can still work if he assume that Chapa is as strong as end of RRA Goku... but I don't like the idea of Chapa being stronger than Tao, Tao is supposed to be the world's greatest assassin, #1, especially since the revelation that Goku defeated Tao was a shock to everyone even after they witnessed Goku stomp Chapa.

So Chapa, in between 21st Goku and Tao? It's certainly possible, there's a lot of room in there. But then there's no thematic significance to Goku beating him.