"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:23 pm

Sandubadear wrote:It's still possible that the fusion will really happen because of the mystery Super Heroes card. Heroes already spoiled us the Babari-jins, after all (not that they're as important as a Vegeta-Trunks-Goku fusion, but still).
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Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Goku is the only one who knows the dance. He'll have to teach it to both Vegeta and Trunks. Trunks who remember is in the future. The only way a three way fusion will be possible is via Portara somehow.
I think Old Kaioshin said that you can only do a Potara fusion "once". It probably means that a Potara fusion can't fuse with someone else (Vegetto wouldn't be able to fuse with Trunks, for example).
What what card am I supposed to be looking at? Can't see anything that would be the result of a three way fusion.

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Post by Xeztin » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:27 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Sandubadear wrote:It's still possible that the fusion will really happen because of the mystery Super Heroes card. Heroes already spoiled us the Babari-jins, after all (not that they're as important as a Vegeta-Trunks-Goku fusion, but still).
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Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Goku is the only one who knows the dance. He'll have to teach it to both Vegeta and Trunks. Trunks who remember is in the future. The only way a three way fusion will be possible is via Portara somehow.
I think Old Kaioshin said that you can only do a Potara fusion "once". It probably means that a Potara fusion can't fuse with someone else (Vegetto wouldn't be able to fuse with Trunks, for example).
What what card am I supposed to be looking at? Can't see anything that would be the result of a three way fusion.
The one beside SSJ3 Bardock on the bottom row, if they do a 3 way fusion how the heck are they going to top that in the next arc?
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:30 pm

Xeztin wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Sandubadear wrote:It's still possible that the fusion will really happen because of the mystery Super Heroes card. Heroes already spoiled us the Babari-jins, after all (not that they're as important as a Vegeta-Trunks-Goku fusion, but still).
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I think Old Kaioshin said that you can only do a Potara fusion "once". It probably means that a Potara fusion can't fuse with someone else (Vegetto wouldn't be able to fuse with Trunks, for example).
What what card am I supposed to be looking at? Can't see anything that would be the result of a three way fusion.
The one beside SSJ3 Bardock on the bottom row.
Ahh. Hmmm looks like some heroes thing cuz where would the Black come from? Anyway looks like a fusion between Trunks and Vegeta.

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Post by Xeztin » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:34 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Xeztin wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: What what card am I supposed to be looking at? Can't see anything that would be the result of a three way fusion.
The one beside SSJ3 Bardock on the bottom row.
Ahh. Hmmm looks like some heroes thing cuz where would the Black come from? Anyway looks like a fusion between Trunks and Vegeta.
It might be a Xeno version of the character, there's a lot of rumors of the 3 fusing but I don't see a point if they got that Mafuba container. I'm looking for Trunks in his new form to beat Black and Zamasu into fusing, then Trunks will get the grounded, Goku and Vegeta will come back with the Mafuba, they'll weaken the fused Zamasu, Goku might through down a Spirit Bomb before sealing with the Mafuba. I just can't see them fusing, let alone a 3 way fusion after just giving Trunks a new form. If they fuse they'll never be able to top the power scale in this arc. I'm looking for Future Trunks to die honestly, since Mai is his only reason to live at this point in time.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:28 pm

Xeztin wrote: It might be a Xeno version of the character, there's a lot of rumors of the 3 fusing but I don't see a point if they got that Mafuba container.
You would need someone powerful to do a Mafuba on someone really strong. With a Goku Black + Zamasu fusion, Goku would not be strong enough to steal up a powerful fusion on his own. I would imagine a fusion between Future Zamasu and Goku Black would be at least on the same level as Whis or even stronger.
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Post by Noah » Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:43 pm

Bullza wrote:But that Zamasu didn't know who Vegeta was so why should Black? You can't say that he knew about Vegeta from the Godtube either because then he'd have known about Super Saiyan Blue and he didn't.
You forgot that Zamasu did ask Zuno everything about Goku, right? That would include Saiyans arrival on Earth and Vegeta of course.
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This was never implied.
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I have a problem with this:

What timeline is Future Zamasu (the immortal one) from? Is he from Trunks timeline? Because if so, we all know that Goku is dead because of the Heart Virus, so why Zamasu despised him? Did Black told him about Goku or something?

Sandubadear wrote:The kids took a few hours to learn, and even then it took several tries to get the fusion right. Movies and GT don't matter. They can't afford to make a mistake at a critical hour like this.
Of course they matter, Super isn't following precisely the manga you know (Gregory, Frog Ginyu, etc.), so no need to exclude anything, cuz' in the end they are all produced by Toei.
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Post by HeroR » Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:43 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
Xeztin wrote: It might be a Xeno version of the character, there's a lot of rumors of the 3 fusing but I don't see a point if they got that Mafuba container.
You would need someone powerful to do a Mafuba on someone really strong. With a Goku Black + Zamasu fusion, Goku would not be strong enough to steal up a powerful fusion on his own. I would imagine a fusion between Future Zamasu and Goku Black would be at least on the same level as Whis or even stronger.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:47 pm

It would be intersting to see a three way fusion. I remember Dragon Ball AF had fan fics and rumors of a multiple fusion. I remember this image was stated to be a four way fusion of Goku, Vegeta, Trunks and Gohan.

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Post by Anime Kitten » Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:04 pm

Not to discourage discussion, but...

Just wait.

All this discussion could go down the drain just as easily as Black being someone other than Zamasu did. If you want to keep going, fine by me, but it seems kinda pointless to speculate right now when all of our theories have been proven wrong once. But that's just my opinion, at least.
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Post by Doctor. » Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:07 pm

Noah wrote:What timeline is Future Zamasu (the immortal one) from? Is he from Trunks timeline? Because if so, we all know that Goku is dead because of the Heart Virus, so why Zamasu despised him? Did Black told him about Goku or something?
Yes, he's from Trunks' timeline, this has been 100% confirmed this last episode. Black probably told him about Goku, yeah.

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Post by Noah » Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:16 pm

Doctor. wrote:Yes, he's from Trunks' timeline, this has been 100% confirmed this last episode. Black probably told him about Goku, yeah.
So, after that Zamasu is like: "What? A mortal that have surpassed Gods? I can't believe it, if I ever meet him, I'll punish him personally."

This all story is driving me nuts lol
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Post by sintzu » Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:01 pm

Episode 66

[spoiler]Fusion !!! Vegeta's pride and Goku's anger.[/spoiler]

Sorry if it's already been posted.
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Post by ryou766 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:02 pm

sintzu wrote:Episode 66

[spoiler]Fusion !!! Vegeta's pride and Goku's anger.[/spoiler]

Sorry if it's already been posted.
Is this legit? :shock:

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Post by sintzu » Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:04 pm

ryou766 wrote:
sintzu wrote:Episode 66

[spoiler]Fusion !!! Vegeta's pride and Goku's anger.[/spoiler]

Sorry if it's already been posted.
Is this legit? :shock:
Like with the other titles, we'll have to wait for an image to be sure so you could call it a rumor for now but here's where I got it from :

http://www.db-z.com/titre-de-lepisode-6 ... -confirme/
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Post by ryou766 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:05 pm

I'm praying to Kami that this is real, my friends and I are shitting ourselves.

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Post by Marlowe89 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:06 pm

Someone brought this up in the other thread, but it might also be possible that Black's origin stems from present Zamasu managing to kill Gowasu, steal the potara earrings / time ring and quickly travelling ahead to one year in the future just before Whis taps his staff on the ground for a temporal do-over. That, at least, makes a little more sense to me than the "additional timeline" explanation because it gives more narrative weight to the Zamasu we've been following throughout Super - it also erases the need to postulate some other weirdly contrived motive that would involve Goku coincidentally sparring with Zamasu in the same period for whatever reason, and it lines up with what Toei appears to be implying in the current episode. There of course would be a time loop in that case, but I enjoy those anyway so I'm fine with that.

I wish this whole thing didn't bother me as much as it does, because I really do think it was otherwise a fantastic episode all around.
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Post by Ajay » Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:08 pm

sintzu wrote:Episode 66

[spoiler]Fusion !!! Vegeta's pride and Goku's anger.[/spoiler]

Sorry if it's already been posted.
The title has been discussed already. Nobody can say one way or another, but given NewType just came out, I'm not convinced we'd have yet another leak.

Herms pointed out that the title is essentially just Z #268's title: "Merged!! Vegeta’s Pride and Goku’s Rage".

So what you take from that is up to you.
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Post by ailema88 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:13 pm

sintzu wrote:Episode 66

[spoiler]Fusion !!! Vegeta's pride and Goku's anger.[/spoiler]

Sorry if it's already been posted.
Ep. 268 of DBZ has the same title.. what an epic moment!!

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:22 pm

So SSj Blue Gogeta or Vegito may happen after all. I hope it's not a one episode fight.
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Post by ryou766 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:26 pm

If it's Gogeta, then my guess would be 25 minutes to beat down Merged Zamasu and (if they're still going with this plan) use the Mafuba to seal him in the extra 5.

If it's Vegetto, they could have an all out brawl without any worry of a time limit and then proceed to seal him. They could ask to be defused using the Dragon Balls, I guess.

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