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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Bansho64 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:12 pm

MajinMan wrote:"Black Goku."

I would have thought that people who have the ability to go on the internet could read. I like to imagine them reading Goku Black somewhere and for some unexplainable reason, their brain processes it as "Black Goku." Come on people.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:33 pm

MajinMan wrote:"Black Goku."
I would have thought that people who have the ability to go on the internet could read. I like to imagine them reading Goku Black somewhere and for some unexplainable reason, their brain processes it as "Black Goku." Come on people.
It's called a preference. I used to use it. My brother uses it (well, he just says "Black" now). Why is it so wrong?
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by rereboy » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:03 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:Why is it so wrong?
Oversensitivity over racial issues.

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Bansho64 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:19 pm

rereboy wrote: Oversensitivity over racial issues.
Really man? You really wanna go there? Don't start this crap. Cause I'll come at you right back, if you really wanna go into this hard.
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Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:29 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:
MajinMan wrote:"Black Goku."
I would have thought that people who have the ability to go on the internet could read. I like to imagine them reading Goku Black somewhere and for some unexplainable reason, their brain processes it as "Black Goku." Come on people.
It's called a preference. I used to use it. My brother uses it (well, he just says "Black" now). Why is it so wrong?
Cause it's kinda racist. Not enough where it should cause a backlash, but more then enough to make people feel a bit uncomfortable.
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Anime Kitten wrote:Why is it so wrong?
Oversensitivity over racial issues.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:32 pm

Soppa Saia People wrote:Cause it's kinda racist. Not enough where it should cause a backlash, but more then enough to make people feel a bit uncomfortable.
I agree, but I don't get how Black as an adjective could really do that. I guess the best way to describe it is, "It sounds racist."
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by rereboy » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:52 pm

Bansho64 wrote:
rereboy wrote: Oversensitivity over racial issues.
Really man? You really wanna go there? Don't start this crap. Cause I'll come at you right back, if you really wanna go into this hard.
Soppa Saia People wrote:Let's not.
I see no other real reason why anyone would have a problem with the name "Goku Black" or "Black Goku" besides racial connections... and if someone can't even mention that without receiving threats of "coming back" at that person, well, then I couldn't even think of a better demonstration of the oversensitivity of the issue.

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Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:55 pm

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Soppa Saia People wrote:Cause it's kinda racist. Not enough where it should cause a backlash, but more then enough to make people feel a bit uncomfortable.
I agree, but I don't get how Black as an adjective could really do that. I guess the best way to describe it is, "It sounds racist."
It's an evil version of a character, and he's called Black Goku. That's a tug of the shirt moment.

I see no other real reason why anyone would have a problem with the name "Goku Black" or "Black Goku" besides racial connections... and if someone can't even mention that without receiving threats of "coming back" at that person, well, then I couldn't even think of a better demonstration of the oversensitivity of the issue.
I see your point, but I think it's a bit immature to just say, it's people being over sensitive.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Bansho64 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:57 pm

rereboy wrote: I see no other real reason why anyone would have a problem with the name "Goku Black" or "Black Goku" besides racial connections... and if someone can't even mention that without receiving threats of "coming back" at that person, well, then I couldn't even think of a better demonstration of the oversensitivity of the issue.
Nobody here even mentioned having a problem with his actual name, "Goku Black". Black Goku isn't his name.

Calling him that sounds kinda racist. Like, Soppa Saiya People said above, it's not that bad but it's very uncomfortable. It's a matter of what's right and what's wrong. And I will admit that me saying I'm gonna "come back" was too much but I was mainly talking about getting into an argument about this and giving you replies.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by rereboy » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:00 pm

Soppa Saia People wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote:
Soppa Saia People wrote:Cause it's kinda racist. Not enough where it should cause a backlash, but more then enough to make people feel a bit uncomfortable.
I agree, but I don't get how Black as an adjective could really do that. I guess the best way to describe it is, "It sounds racist."
It's an evil version of a character, and he's called Black Goku. That makes me tug my shirt.
Humans instinctively fear darkness and whatever dwells in it, and thus fear that there is evil within it. It's not about really race until we start thinking about that.

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Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:01 pm

rereboy wrote:
Soppa Saia People wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote: I agree, but I don't get how Black as an adjective could really do that. I guess the best way to describe it is, "It sounds racist."
It's an evil version of a character, and he's called Black Goku. That makes me tug my shirt.
Humans instinctively fear darkness and whatever dwells in it, and thus fear that there is evil within it. It's not about really race until we start thinking about that.
Yeah, I see your point. Carry on.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by RedRibbonSoldier#42 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:04 pm

Black Gokuu would not be even remotely rascist. But his name was given as Gokuu Black, so we should stick with that or just Black (used in series)

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Bansho64 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:05 pm

Fine. I see you guy's point.
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Post by rereboy » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:12 pm

Soppa Saia People wrote: I see your point, but I think it's a bit immature to just say, it's people being over sensitive.
Is it, actually? I find it much more mature to be able to identify why people get uncomfortable with that, and to be able to realize that people still get uncomfortable over small things like that because, unfortunately, race is still a very big issue all over the world and, because it is still such a big issue instead of already being a much smaller issue, people are still aware and sensitive regarding anything that can have racial connections, unlike how they would be if the issue was much less important. If it was a much smaller issue, if we had already made much more progress towards surpassing those issues, people in general would naturally be much less aware and sensitive regarding anything with possible racial connections.

Imo, the mature attitude is facing and admitting things.
Bansho64 wrote: Nobody here even mentioned having a problem with his actual name, "Goku Black". Black Goku isn't his name.

Calling him that sounds kinda racist. Like, Soppa Saiya People said above, it's not that bad but it's very uncomfortable. It's a matter of what's right and what's wrong. And I will admit that me saying I'm gonna "come back" was too much but I was mainly talking about getting into an argument about this and giving you replies.
Read my response to Soppa Saiya People. Like I said, I just identified the issue. You saw what you wanted to see instead and went overboard with it.

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by MajinMan » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:53 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:
MajinMan wrote:"Black Goku."
I would have thought that people who have the ability to go on the internet could read. I like to imagine them reading Goku Black somewhere and for some unexplainable reason, their brain processes it as "Black Goku." Come on people.
It's called a preference. I used to use it. My brother uses it (well, he just says "Black" now). Why is it so wrong?
I know it has been adressed already, but my reasoning has nothing to do with any implied racism or whatever. The fact is that his name is Goku Black. He is never, ever called "Black Goku" in the show, merchandising, or spoilers. Just because "Black Goku" sounds more correct does not make it so. It's reminding me of the whole "Bills vs Beerus" situation, although it's not exactly the same. Just calling him Black is perfectly fine though.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Sailor Haumea » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:26 pm

People who say "Bills" or "Beeurs" instead of Beerus. It's a double pun on "virus" and "beer". The first two do not accomplish that. You're ruining the joke.

People who say "Bluma" instead of Bulma.

People who call the Androids by the Japanese word for android. Seriously, what the fuck? Not even the Viz translation does that.

People who say "Raichi" instead of "Lychee".

People who say "Mirai" instead of "Future".

If you mention Android 18, people understand. If you mention Jinzoningen 18 to the average person, they have no goddamn idea what you're talking about.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Bansho64 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:38 pm

Sailor Haumea wrote: People who say "Bluma" instead of Bulma.
What's wrong with this? MistareFusion pretty much explains that it's a logical and accurate way to say here. Although, he spells it Blooms instead of "Bluma".

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Post by Sailor Haumea » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:44 pm

Bansho64 wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote: People who say "Bluma" instead of Bulma.
What's wrong with this? MistareFusion pretty much explains that it's a logical and accurate way to say here. Although, he spells it Blooms instead of "Bluma".
Because it's making the pun too obvious...?
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:46 pm

Sailor Haumea wrote:People who say "Bills" or "Beeurs" instead of Beerus. It's a double pun on "virus" and "beer". The first two do not accomplish that. You're ruining the joke.

People who say "Bluma" instead of Bulma.

People who call the Androids by the Japanese word for android. Seriously, what the fuck? Not even the Viz translation does that.

People who say "Raichi" instead of "Lychee".

People who say "Mirai" instead of "Future".

If you mention Android 18, people understand. If you mention Jinzoningen 18 to the average person, they have no goddamn idea what you're talking about.
Its because they are NOT androids, otherwise 18 would have never been able to have children. They are Cyborgs or Artificial Humans. I do agree that its annoying to see Jinzouningen juuhachi-go but I have NEVER seen anyone do that, even here.

Who the hell is Lychee? Is that a character from Dragon Ball?

The intended spelling for Bulma is "Bloomers". But I hate it so I ignore it.

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Post by Sailor Haumea » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:50 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote:People who say "Bills" or "Beeurs" instead of Beerus. It's a double pun on "virus" and "beer". The first two do not accomplish that. You're ruining the joke.

People who say "Bluma" instead of Bulma.

People who call the Androids by the Japanese word for android. Seriously, what the fuck? Not even the Viz translation does that.

People who say "Raichi" instead of "Lychee".

People who say "Mirai" instead of "Future".

If you mention Android 18, people understand. If you mention Jinzoningen 18 to the average person, they have no goddamn idea what you're talking about.
Its because they are NOT androids, otherwise 18 would have never been able to have children. They are Cyborgs or Artificial Humans. I do agree that its annoying to see Jinzouningen juuhachi-go but I have NEVER seen anyone do that, even here.

Who the hell is Lychee? Is that a character from Dragon Ball?

The intended spelling for Bulma is "Bloomers". But I hate it so I ignore it.
It makes sense for others, though, like 13-16 and 19.

TheDevilsCorpse uses Jinzoningen EXCLUSIVELY.

Lychee was the antagonist of the OVA "Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans" and its remake "Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans".
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