Shueisha's 'Dragon Ball' Room, New Department Focused on Dragon Ball

[sintzu]

Man, you make me depressed with that statement :I

Toriyama isn't going to write forever so it'll happen sooner or later.

The current arc would've been promoted as his final arc if it was but since it wasn't we'll get at least one more from him and if it's not promoted as such then it'll be 2 at least.

[sangofe]

Man, you make me depressed with that statement :I

Toriyama isn't going to write forever so it'll happen sooner or later.

The current arc would've been promoted as his final arc if it was but since it wasn't we'll get at least one more from him and if it's not promoted as such then it'll be 2 at least.

Ending super early would be depressing for me. I want it to explore at least all the 12 universes.

[Chuquita]

I'd be super disappointed to see it end before they visit Planet Salad and before Bra is born. I want at least those things to happen before it goes.

And also for Gokû to get his "first kiss" if that really wasn't everyone misinterpreting him.

[ekrolo2]

Not really sure how to feel about this, but I think I only feel that way because it's so vague.

I'm one of those people that doesn't actually think uninhibited Toriyama content for Dragon Ball is usually any good -- at least not the recent offerings. He's someone who works so much better when people are focusing his thoughts or he's transforming others' work into his own.

If this has anything to do with the future of Super, then I hope it means there's a good board of people who can pitch interesting ideas to Toriyama and he can weigh in on them. That'd be great -- wonderful, even. Heck, maybe they'll actually be able to be a bit more consistent with one another.

What I hope this isn't is the beginning of trying to entwine the various sub-brands of Dragon Ball. I'd hate for the franchise to become this amalgamous blob of content. I love that Dragon Ball can be so many different things, but I think it's important separate those identities.

Agreed, one of the things I positively loathe about a lot of stuff I used to like is that everything is trying to be some interconnected web of various media franchises that majoritively murder anything approaching creative freedom in favor of homogenized shit (thanks Marvel).

[THEGOKU]

I mean regardless of how many people want super to end for their various reasons it is because of Super that we even have this Dragonball Room. I mean Heroes has been around for a few years already but not that popular. All the other video games have never pulled that strong of a audience to get something like this done. An Dragonball SD and Jaco are good things for the series that have a small impact on this too but not like Super. The movies that lead up to Super has without a doubt increased the popularity but without Super I can't see us getting to this point. Again to reference Star Wars the prequels are hated by many fans but without them they wouldn't have such an expanded universe as they do now. I would like for this to continue in a way that after this Trunks arc is done we can get a series with Trunks as the main character. A hero who was brought into the battlefield as a child and remained because he has never truly known what peace is has enough depth for him to have a standalone mini series similar to what they did with Jaco.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I'd be fine with Super 'ending' and us moving on to a 'new series' pretty much if only two things are met.

1) The replacement can't solely be about selling merchandise, we need something ongoing that's purely for telling an interesting story as well.
2) It needs to go beyond the end of the manga. If it doesn't, and it's still just stuck in the same ten year gap that Super is, then there's really no need to make a new series and branding. Taking a break for a while and coming back again still as the same show and branding, sure, but a whole new title to still be doing the same thing? That just seems superfluous to me.

[ryou766]

Man, it amazes me how time passes by; I still remember when the thought of a new Dragon Ball series was merely out as rumors and trolling.

[Cetra]

I just see some more news about how Toriyama-san trusts a lot of people about Dragon Ball. Something fans should already know afterall these years. For me personally - I cannot wait to see what this is going to bring.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

The brand of Super is a thing though and it's getting stronger by the day. Why would they wash that all away just cuz Toriyama doesn't want to work on it?

It's the brand Dragon Ball that is strong which Super is a part of. Even if they end it and come up with a new series with DB logo attached on it it will eventually grow strong.

- Travis

[Grimlock]

Well, if that means creating stuff that give other characters some highlight and character development, then count me in/color me interested.

[Lujin_16]

This news is more positiv for Dragonball Super than we maybe think When i heard talking about new idea's the first thing what comes in my mind

is the 12 universe but i can understand that some has fear that it will end soon

[Baggie_Saiyan]

The brand of Super is a thing though and it's getting stronger by the day. Why would they wash that all away just cuz Toriyama doesn't want to work on it?

It's the brand Dragon Ball that is strong which Super is a part of. Even if they end it and come up with a new series with DB logo attached on it it will eventually grow strong.

- Travis

But as we saw with Kai it might not work out so great the point is it's a risk, it would frankly rather foolish to let all that go in hopes that the next series "Dragon Ball Awesome" as an example will do just as well. Production maybe a mess but from what I understand it's improving. Literally no reason to stop Super and start a new series. Temporary hault Super sure but not entirely stop it.

Edit-okay this things been set up since June? Nothings come of it yet. Perhaps nothing will.

[Bansho64]

Nice! Personally, I hope this leads to either of these two things.

1. A new manga

2. Super getting canceled in exchange for a new series.

I'm mainly wanting to see what exactly this group does.
I'd give em a chance.

[sintzu]

1) The replacement can't solely be about selling merchandise, we need something ongoing that's purely for telling an interesting story as well.

2) It needs to go beyond the end of the manga.

With this kind of franchise that's the last thing they'll do.

It won't, like other similar franchises it has to have a certain status quo and the 10 year time gap is apart of that quo.

[perucho1990]

I wonder if they are going to continue with Goku as MC until Nozawa passes away?

I wont mind if Pan becomes the new Protagonist, so far she has been more likeable than GT Pan, and also in the year 2016 tons of fan appreciate female MCs, unlike in the 80s or 90s.

[sintzu]

One of the things I positively loathe about a lot of stuff I used to like is that everything is trying to be some interconnected web of various media franchises.

From a business standpoint it's a great idea cause these franchises literally print $$$ for their companies but in return they sacrifice their quality and reputation.

DB has been looked at for 2 decades (give or take) as one of the most influential manga in its genre but in 5 years or less it'll probably be looked at as just another merchandise commercial.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

The brand of Super is a thing though and it's getting stronger by the day. Why would they wash that all away just cuz Toriyama doesn't want to work on it?

It's the brand Dragon Ball that is strong which Super is a part of. Even if they end it and come up with a new series with DB logo attached on it it will eventually grow strong.

- Travis

But as we saw with Kai it might not work out so great the point is it's a risk, it would frankly rather foolish to let all that go in hopes that the next series "Dragon Ball Awesome" as an example will do just as well. Production maybe a mess but from what I understand it's improving. Literally no reason to stop Super and start a new series. Temporary hault Super sure but not entirely stop it.

This I can agree with. If Super goes on hiatus and comes back with proper planning and scheduling I'm fine with it, but sadly that doesn't look possible cause Toei might lose the time slot. The only way I see is Toriyama quits and they end it due to lack of material and to resolve the production issues.

Yeah it is risky no doubt about it, but it's a risk I want them to take. It would be interesting. Not to mention the staff working in healthy schedules would more than likely boost animation quality and the product might turn out to be a better experience than Super.

- Travis

[sintzu]

I wont mind if Pan becomes the new Protagonist, so far she has been more likeable than GT Pan.

If they won't do anything with established fan favorite characters like Gohan and Piccolo then the chances of them building one from the ground up like Pan are slim to none.

[Chuquita]

One of the things I positively loathe about a lot of stuff I used to like is that everything is trying to be some interconnected web of various media franchises.

From a business standpoint it's a great idea cause these franchises literally print $$$ for their companies but in return they sacrifice their quality and reputation.

DB has been looked at for 2 decades (give or take) as one of the most influential manga in its genre but in 5 years or less it'll probably be looked at as just another merchandise commercial.

I honestly think it has partly to do with how difficult it is to capture a big audience for anything nowadays with how the internet fractured TV's hold over entertainment.

Everything that gets hugely commercialized nowadays is stuff from before YouTube, before online streaming of video content.

I remember the 90's/early 2000's. You'd watch whatever was on because there was no alternative. I saw so many shows and movies I never would've spent the time on if high speed internet existed. Most of what I watch now is user generated content online. I barely watch TV anymore.

[ekrolo2]

One of the things I positively loathe about a lot of stuff I used to like is that everything is trying to be some interconnected web of various media franchises.

From a business standpoint it's a great idea cause these franchises literally print $$$ for their companies but in return they sacrifice their quality and reputation.

DB has been looked at for 2 decades (give or take) as one of the most influential manga in its genre but in 5 years or less it'll probably be looked at as just another merchandise commercial.

That's precisely my problem with the practice. I'd rather take a movie every two years that has a good chance of actually being good, and not that stupid fanboy way of being good, I mean ACTUALLY good rather than 20 pieces of crap all running simultaneously out of which you need to wait for the planets to align and sacrifice a virgin at an altar to Darkseid in hopes of one of them being decent.