The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Ash57]

As per Battle of Gods, all the Saiyans who aren't Ultimate or a fusion are weaker than Freeza's 100% power on Namek in their normal forms. Trunks and the rest of them need Super Saiyan to do anything of consequence.

Fair point, though I assumed Super Saiyan could slaughter her based on what Trunks did to Future #18.

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I'm gonna try this "running the gauntlet" thing you guys do.
Super Saiyan Vegetto VS:
Majin Super Janemba (if he somehow gained the same power boost as Vegeta)
Super Saiyan Gogeta
10% Beerus
Base Goku (EOZ)
Super Saiyan Goku (EOZ)
As a side note, these are in chronological order, not necessarily power.

-Super Janemba gets one-shotted. When the movie was produced, Base Gotenks Post RoSaT hadn't even appeared yet, so Super Janemba is only supposed to be stronger than Fat Boo, but not Super Boo.
-Super Gotenks 3 is weeelll more than enough in my opinion, let alone Super Vegetto.
- Vegetto gets blinked out.
- Base Goku(EOZ) <=> Kid Boo. As such, even Super Saiyan Gotenks would be enough here, considering the statements.
- Vegetto easily takes Goku out. I have Base Vegeto as strong as Ultimate Gohan, so even Base Vegetto is enough here imo.

[Steven Bloodriver]

As per Battle of Gods, all the Saiyans who aren't Ultimate or a fusion are weaker than Freeza's 100% power on Namek in their normal forms. Trunks and the rest of them need Super Saiyan to do anything of consequence.

Fair point, though I assumed Super Saiyan could slaughter her based on what Trunks did to Future #18.

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I'm gonna try this "running the gauntlet" thing you guys do.
Super Saiyan Vegetto VS:
Majin Super Janemba (if he somehow gained the same power boost as Vegeta)
Super Saiyan Gogeta
10% Beerus
Base Goku (EOZ)
Super Saiyan Goku (EOZ)
As a side note, these are in chronological order, not necessarily power.

-Super Janemba gets one-shotted. When the movie was produced, Base Gotenks Post RoSaT hadn't even appeared yet, so Super Janemba is only supposed to be stronger than Fat Boo, but not Super Boo.
-Super Gotenks 3 is weeelll more than enough in my opinion, let alone Super Vegetto.
- Vegetto gets blinked out.
- Base Goku(EOZ) <=> Kid Boo. As such, even Super Saiyan Gotenks would be enough here, considering the statements.
- Vegetto easily takes Goku out. I have Base Vegeto as strong as Ultimate Gohan, so even Base Vegetto is enough here imo.

24) Captain Ginyu (In Goku's Body) vs. Goku Black (both at equal power).

25) Golden Frieza vs. Frost (Ruthless Final Form).

26) Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan (Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound) vs. Super Saiyan 2 Adult Gohan (25th World Tournament).

27) Super Buu (Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks and Piccolo Absorbed) vs. Tagoma (after training with Frieza in the Dragon Ball Super anime).

28) Pure Evil Buu vs. Janemba (First Form).

[Bullza]

I'd like a good answer for this one

23rd Budokai vs Tien vs Young King Piccolo

At the start if DBZ where you'd think Tien would be even stronger his power level was 250. However one of the guides had King Piccolo being at 260 but then that guide might not be worth squat.

In the manga 23rd Budokai Tien was faster than King Piccolo. He was also fairly confident at beating Goku even though he knew he'd be stronger than when he beat King Piccolo.

[Ash57]

Fair point, though I assumed Super Saiyan could slaughter her based on what Trunks did to Future #18.

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I'm gonna try this "running the gauntlet" thing you guys do.
Super Saiyan Vegetto VS:
Majin Super Janemba (if he somehow gained the same power boost as Vegeta)
Super Saiyan Gogeta
10% Beerus
Base Goku (EOZ)
Super Saiyan Goku (EOZ)
As a side note, these are in chronological order, not necessarily power.

-Super Janemba gets one-shotted. When the movie was produced, Base Gotenks Post RoSaT hadn't even appeared yet, so Super Janemba is only supposed to be stronger than Fat Boo, but not Super Boo.
-Super Gotenks 3 is weeelll more than enough in my opinion, let alone Super Vegetto.
- Vegetto gets blinked out.
- Base Goku(EOZ) <=> Kid Boo. As such, even Super Saiyan Gotenks would be enough here, considering the statements.
- Vegetto easily takes Goku out. I have Base Vegeto as strong as Ultimate Gohan, so even Base Vegetto is enough here imo.

24) Captain Ginyu (In Goku's Body) vs. Goku Black (both at equal power).

25) Golden Frieza vs. Frost (Ruthless Final Form).

26) Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan (Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound) vs. Super Saiyan 2 Adult Gohan (25th World Tournament).

27) Super Buu (Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks and Piccolo Absorbed) vs. Tagoma (after training with Frieza in the Dragon Ball Super anime).

28) Pure Evil Buu vs. Janemba (First Form).

24) - Goku Black wins easily, since Ginyu doesn't have any experience with Goku's body just yet.

25) Frost was very easily mahandled by SSJ Goku in the anime, and he was still being handled fairly easily in the manga, so he probably loses, since i don't think SSJ Goku surpassed Freeza just yet, only SSJB Goku and SSJ2 and SSJ3 if they are still usable

26) Adult Gohan gets easily taken out, considering that SSJ2 Kid Gohan on Bojack Unbound is a strong as Gohan in the Cell Games, while Adult Gohan was stated to be "far, far weaker" by Vegeta.

27) Hard to tell. I go with Boo because of his regen and stamina

28) Pure Evil Boo gets stomped. Goku states Janemba is the biggest ki he ever felt, which means Fat Janemba is stronger than Fat Boo, who is well above Pure Evil Boo.

[Khin]

24) Captain Ginyu (In Goku's Body) vs. Goku Black (both at equal power).
25) Golden Frieza vs. Frost (Ruthless Final Form).
26) Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan (Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound) vs. Super Saiyan 2 Adult Gohan (25th World Tournament).
27) Super Buu (Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks and Piccolo Absorbed) vs. Tagoma (after training with Frieza in the Dragon Ball Super anime).
28) Pure Evil Buu vs. Janemba (First Form).

• Are you referring to current Goku controlled by Ginyu ? If so, he loses horribly. Not even the real Goku has a shot against Black, let alone Ginyu, who probably couldn't even access Super Saiyan Blue.
• Freeza tears Frost a new one.
• Movie 9 Kid Gohan stomps.
• Buutenks spits out SS3 Gotenks, who reverts back to his Super Saiyan form and dicks around with Tagoma for about 30 minutes before killing him with a casual ki blast.
• Good Buu < Pure Evil Buu << Innocent Buu < Fat Janemba. Ergo, Janemba wins.

I'd like a good answer for this one

23rd Budokai vs Tien vs Young King Piccolo

Tenshinhan makes quick work of Piccolo. As you said, he was confident on taking Goku despite knowing he got stronger from years ago when he defeated Daimao. The official battle powers got this one wrong in my opinion. Tenshinhan is around the same power as weighted Goku at that time, who displayed more power than he was against Piccolo Daimao.

[Angelus]

Buu Arc WMAT Base Goten VS Cell Games Krillin, Tien, Yamcha. No ki attacks

[Khin]

Buu Arc WMAT Base Goten VS Cell Games Krillin, Tien, Yamcha. No ki attacks

Goten easily defeats all three humans using neither his hands nor feet. Kuririn's reaction when the kids was putted in the junior division says it all. The humans are only around 3 million at most in my opinion, while Goten isn't much weaker than 25th TB Gohan, who I have in the 60 million range.

P.S. Haven't seen you post a match in forever, good to see you back.

[Steven Bloodriver]

-Super Janemba gets one-shotted. When the movie was produced, Base Gotenks Post RoSaT hadn't even appeared yet, so Super Janemba is only supposed to be stronger than Fat Boo, but not Super Boo.
-Super Gotenks 3 is weeelll more than enough in my opinion, let alone Super Vegetto.
- Vegetto gets blinked out.
- Base Goku(EOZ) <=> Kid Boo. As such, even Super Saiyan Gotenks would be enough here, considering the statements.
- Vegetto easily takes Goku out. I have Base Vegeto as strong as Ultimate Gohan, so even Base Vegetto is enough here imo.

24) Captain Ginyu (In Goku's Body) vs. Goku Black (both at equal power).

25) Golden Frieza vs. Frost (Ruthless Final Form).

26) Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan (Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound) vs. Super Saiyan 2 Adult Gohan (25th World Tournament).

27) Super Buu (Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks and Piccolo Absorbed) vs. Tagoma (after training with Frieza in the Dragon Ball Super anime).

28) Pure Evil Buu vs. Janemba (First Form).

24) - Goku Black wins easily, since Ginyu doesn't have any experience with Goku's body just yet.

25) Frost was very easily mahandled by SSJ Goku in the anime, and he was still being handled fairly easily in the manga, so he probably loses, since i don't think SSJ Goku surpassed Freeza just yet, only SSJB Goku and SSJ2 and SSJ3 if they are still usable

26) Adult Gohan gets easily taken out, considering that SSJ2 Kid Gohan on Bojack Unbound is a strong as Gohan in the Cell Games, while Adult Gohan was stated to be "far, far weaker" by Vegeta.

27) Hard to tell. I go with Boo because of his regen and stamina

28) Pure Evil Boo gets stomped. Goku states Janemba is the biggest ki he ever felt, which means Fat Janemba is stronger than Fat Boo, who is well above Pure Evil Boo.

29) Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Super 17 Saga) and Super Saiyan Future Trunks (Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound) vs. Fourth Form Frieza (Resurrection F) and Majin Dabura (before he had meditated).

30) Piccolo (Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F) and the Original Nameless Namekian (the one who had created Ultimate Shenron) vs. Super Saiyan 2 Nappa and Full Power Frieza.

31) Ultimate Gohan (Majin Buu Saga) and Cabba (Base) vs. Kid Buu and Copy-Vegeta.

P. S. Bonus: Max Power Master Roshi (Resurrection F) and Grandpa Gohan (with the Elder Kai Unlock Ability) vs. Great Ape Raditz.

[Angelus]

Yeah it's nice to be back, Khin. I'm not sure if I'm staying for long though and might go back and hibernate from Kanzenshuu again

Cyborg Tao with a full power Super Dodon Wave VS Saiyan Saga Vegeta (as he's crawling towards his pod, post-Great Ape Gohan fight, right before Krillin attempts to stab Vegeta with Yajirobe's sword)

Android 18 VS Post-1st day ROSAT Base Future Trunks (that can use up to Kaioken x10); no sword or armor

[DanielSSJ]

Buu Arc WMAT Base Goten VS Cell Games Krillin, Tien, Yamcha. No ki attacks

Hard to answer. The Earthlings are way more skilled than the half-Saiyan brats and they outnumber them, but the kids are much more powerful. If Ki attacks like the Kienzan or the Kikoho were available, I'd give it to the Earthlings, but they're not, so the kids win.

Yeah it's nice to be back, Khin. I'm not sure if I'm staying for long though and might go back and hibernate from Kanzenshuu again

Cyborg Tao with a full power Super Dodon Wave VS Saiyan Saga Vegeta (as he's crawling towards his pod, post-Great Ape Gohan fight, right before Krillin attempts to stab Vegeta with Yajirobe's sword)

Android 18 VS Post-1st day ROSAT Base Future Trunks (that can use up to Kaioken x10); no sword or armor

- While Vegeta may have a mathematically higher battle power, he's still physically crippled and practically defenseless. If Yajirobe's katana could take Vegeta out, then I don't see how a Super Dodonpa would fail from Cyborg Taopaipai would fail.

- Interesting match-up. Based on my current power level list, Trunks would need a Kaioken x20 to match Android #18. Even if Trunks proved a match against #18 in raw power, he'd only be able to put out that kind of power in bursts and would be experiencing heavy strain as a result, whereas #18 is that strong naturally, and has unlimited stamina to boot. Trunks loses without Super Saiyan.

[Angelus]

Yes, but the power of the person behind that Katana was Krillin. Would it be the same if it was Oolong trying to stab Vegeta with that same sword?

[DanielSSJ]

Yes, but the power of the person behind that Katana was Krillin. Would it be the same if it was Oolong trying to stab Vegeta with that same sword?

Maybe not Oolong, what with his stubby arms, but the Farmer with a shotgun could probably do it.

[Ash57]

Buu Arc WMAT Base Goten VS Cell Games Krillin, Tien, Yamcha. No ki attacks

Goten takes all three of them out with a single blow unless Krillin uses the Kienzan right out of the bat. He is implied to be close to Adult Gohan by feats and statements.

[ssbgoku]

Android #18 (against Vegeta) VS Base Future Trunks (Post-ROSAT/HTC)

#18 but it won't be easy.

Super Saiyan Vegetto VS:
Majin Super Janemba (if he somehow gained the same power boost as Vegeta)
Super Saiyan Gogeta
10% Beerus
Base Goku (EOZ)
Super Saiyan Goku (EOZ)
As a side note, these are in chronological order, not necessarily power.

Vegetto slaughters full-house

1. Vegetto Easily
2. Vegetoo mid-hard diff
3. Turns ss2 and takes this hard diff to extreme high diff. SS3 easily although
4. Vegeto slaughters
5. Vegetto slaughters

[Angelus]

Some more human matches!

Androids Saga Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, Yajirobe, 100% Roshi VS Base Future Trunks (First appearance in main timeline, no sword); No Ki attacks from anyone in this match

Base Vegeta (awakened immediately after the Android 18 beat down; has broken arm/shoulder. No turning SSJ) VS Androids Saga Yamcha (jealously angered and bloodlusted from Vegeta fathering Trunks with Bulma )

Bacterian VS See-Through the Invisible Man

Bora (no spear) VS Pre-Roshi training Krillin

Colonel Silver VS Videl (no flying)

former matches:
[spoiler]Cyborg Tao with a full power Super Dodon Wave VS Saiyan Saga Vegeta (as he's crawling towards his pod, post-Great Ape Gohan fight, right before Krillin attempts to stab Vegeta with Yajirobe's sword)

Android 18 VS Post-1st day ROSAT Base Future Trunks (that can use up to Kaioken x10); no sword or armor[/spoiler]

[Ash57]

Some more human matches!

Androids Saga Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, Yajirobe, 100% Roshi VS Base Future Trunks (First appearance in main timeline, no sword); No Ki attacks from anyone in this match

Base Vegeta (awakened immediately after the Android 18 beat down; has broken arm/shoulder. No turning SSJ) VS Androids Saga Yamcha (jealously angered and bloodlusted from Vegeta fathering Trunks with Bulma )

Bacterian VS See-Through the Invisible Man

Bora (no spear) VS Pre-Roshi training Krillin

Colonel Silver VS Videl (no flying)

former matches:
[spoiler]Cyborg Tao with a full power Super Dodon Wave VS Saiyan Saga Vegeta (as he's crawling towards his pod, post-Great Ape Gohan fight, right before Krillin attempts to stab Vegeta with Yajirobe's sword)

Android 18 VS Post-1st day ROSAT Base Future Trunks (that can use up to Kaioken x10); no sword or armor[/spoiler]

1) All of them get one-shotted, since none of them are actually above the 250-300,000 mark except Krillin maybe, whereas Trunks is scratching the 3-4 million range with ease.

2) Bacterian gets taken out without effort

3) Bora would one-shot Krillin. Krillin can die from bullets at this point in the series, whereas Bora outright tanked them.

4) Colonel Silver takes her out with ease. Videl is hardly any stronger than she was before, she only learned how to fly and sense ki.

[DanielSSJ]

Some more human matches!

Androids Saga Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, Yajirobe, 100% Roshi VS Base Future Trunks (First appearance in main timeline, no sword); No Ki attacks from anyone in this match

Base Vegeta (awakened immediately after the Android 18 beat down; has broken arm/shoulder. No turning SSJ) VS Androids Saga Yamcha (jealously angered and bloodlusted from Vegeta fathering Trunks with Bulma )

Bacterian VS See-Through the Invisible Man

Bora (no spear) VS Pre-Roshi training Krillin

Colonel Silver VS Videl (no flying)

- Just like the Goten match earlier, the Earthlings won't win without Ki attacks. Trunks is too strong for them to reliably be able to injure with only physical attacks.
- Okay, this match is interesting. Much like the Taopaipai one before, injured Vegeta likely has a higher battle power, but his previous injuries (especially those broken arms) are gonna be a major detriment to his ability to fight. I could definitely see Yamcha winning this one, but it ain't gonna be easy.
- I suppose Bacterian wouldn't be smart or skilled enough to be able to counter Mr. See-Through's transparency. It'll be a long, unpleasant fight, but Mr. See-Through would come out on top eventually.
- Bora is already pretty damn strong, being able to tank gunfire and through Goku and Yajirobe several kilometers into the air. Kuririn's pretty strong too, but I can't see him winning this one.
- Depends on whether or not Videl has learned to fly yet. I know the technique is banned here, but training to utilize her Ki in such a way probably boosted her battle power by a few notches. Sorta like exercising a muscle that you didn't know you had. If this is post-training Videl, then she could probably beat Silver without too much trouble, as long as he leaves the Bazooka at home.

[PelicanDynasty]

Androids Saga Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, Yajirobe, 100% Roshi VS Base Future Trunks (First appearance in main timeline, no sword); No Ki attacks from anyone in this match

Base Vegeta (awakened immediately after the Android 18 beat down; has broken arm/shoulder. No turning SSJ) VS Androids Saga Yamcha (jealously angered and bloodlusted from Vegeta fathering Trunks with Bulma )

Bacterian VS See-Through the Invisible Man

Bora (no spear) VS Pre-Roshi training Krillin

Colonel Silver VS Videl (no flying)

1) I'm taking Trunks. Against someone who was of equal power but a moron and/or arrogant I'd take the humans though.

2) Vegeta still steamrolls him

3) This is an interesting one. Bacterian is probably not smart enough to listen for where the invisible man is, but he does have some long sweeping arms that he could use to locate See-Through. I'll take The Invisible Man 8/10 times, but Bacterian would win on a lucky swing occaisonally.

4) Gotta be Bora, he's proven to be much more durable than Krillin, especially at that point. Krillin was fresh off getting beaten by the Orin Temple guys at that point, and they were pretty weak.

5) If you count filler where Silver dogs the 4 boxers, then I'd say he wins. If you're not counting filler then he loses.

[Steven Bloodriver]

Androids Saga Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, Yajirobe, 100% Roshi VS Base Future Trunks (First appearance in main timeline, no sword); No Ki attacks from anyone in this match

Base Vegeta (awakened immediately after the Android 18 beat down; has broken arm/shoulder. No turning SSJ) VS Androids Saga Yamcha (jealously angered and bloodlusted from Vegeta fathering Trunks with Bulma )

Bacterian VS See-Through the Invisible Man

Bora (no spear) VS Pre-Roshi training Krillin

Colonel Silver VS Videl (no flying)

1) I'm taking Trunks. Against someone who was of equal power but a moron and/or arrogant I'd take the humans though.

2) Vegeta still steamrolls him

3) This is an interesting one. Bacterian is probably not smart enough to listen for where the invisible man is, but he does have some long sweeping arms that he could use to locate See-Through. I'll take The Invisible Man 8/10 times, but Bacterian would win on a lucky swing occaisonally.

4) Gotta be Bora, he's proven to be much more durable than Krillin, especially at that point. Krillin was fresh off getting beaten by the Orin Temple guys at that point, and they were pretty weak.

5) If you count filler where Silver dogs the 4 boxers, then I'd say he wins. If you're not counting filler then he loses.

All fighters have equal power, but have been forced to watch Vegeta's Bingo Dance before fighting.

29) Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Super 17 Saga) and Super Saiyan Future Trunks (Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound) vs. Fourth Form Frieza (Resurrection F) and Majin Dabura (before he had meditated).

30) Piccolo (Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F) and the Original Nameless Namekian (the one who had created Ultimate Shenron) vs. Super Saiyan 2 Nappa and Full Power Frieza.

31) Ultimate Gohan (Majin Buu Saga) and Cabba (Base) vs. Kid Buu and Copy-Vegeta.

P. S. Bonus: Max Power Master Roshi (Resurrection F) and Grandpa Gohan (with the Elder Kai Unlock Ability) vs. Great Ape Raditz.

[TheUltimateNinja]

All fighters have equal power, but have been forced to watch Vegeta's Bingo Dance before fighting.

29) Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Super 17 Saga) and Super Saiyan Future Trunks (Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound) vs. Fourth Form Frieza (Resurrection F) and Majin Dabura (before he had meditated).

30) Piccolo (Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F) and the Original Nameless Namekian (the one who had created Ultimate Shenron) vs. Super Saiyan 2 Nappa and Full Power Frieza.

31) Ultimate Gohan (Majin Buu Saga) and Cabba (Base) vs. Kid Buu and Copy-Vegeta.

P. S. Bonus: Max Power Master Roshi (Resurrection F) and Grandpa Gohan (with the Elder Kai Unlock Ability) vs. Great Ape Raditz.

29) Frieza effortlessly solos.

30) Piccolo effortlessly solos.

31) Copy Vegeta effortlessly solos.

Bonus: Roshi and Grandpa Gohan take it with medium difficulty.