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by Alruneia » Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:20 am
Jackal puFF wrote:I can't really stand when I see people typing Bills instead of Beerus.

If I recall correctly, Bills is the correct name in at least one dub. Latin America, maybe? Or maybe it was Italy. I don't quite remember where.
I think I said this earlier in the thread, but what really matters (to me) is consistency. I, for one, always use the Funimation names if available. Some people use translations that are as close to the Japanese names as possible, resulting in names like Kuririn, Gokuu and, as mentioned before, Bluma/Blooma. I'm cool with these as long as it's the case across the board. People being inconsistent with where they take their names from is what really grinds my gears when it comes to names.
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by nite_jay » Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:59 am
When people say "Black Goku" I get internally triggered. It just sounds so lame compared to Goku Black imo.
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by PsionicWarrior » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:25 am
Haha is true Goku Black sounds better, maybe we could just say Black.
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by Nejishiki » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:35 am
ABED wrote:Sorry, but WHAT? This isn't a translation issue.
Well, it was suggested the Ginyu Special Corps could somehow be stylized after their name puns literally. I don't see how that would be possible unless somebody deliberately did so. It wasn't "on the nose" in its original transcription or in adaptions. It all related to the overall post that most of the name puns are not exactly their source spellings in the first place. They're just as much puns for everyone reading or listening. The game is figuring them out. That intention from the author is retained. The position that one would casually refer to them by their origin noun is what I addressed.
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by ABED » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:22 am
The game is figuring them out.
I see your point, but there's no need to figure out "Bloomers". It's not a pun. I'm not even sure if "Blooma" is a pun.
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by nickzambuto » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:37 am
Alruneia wrote:Jackal puFF wrote:I can't really stand when I see people typing Bills instead of Beerus.

If I recall correctly, Bills is the correct name in at least one dub. Latin America, maybe? Or maybe it was Italy. I don't quite remember where.
I think I said this earlier in the thread, but what really matters (to me) is consistency. I, for one, always use the Funimation names if available. Some people use translations that are as close to the Japanese names as possible, resulting in names like Kuririn, Gokuu and, as mentioned before, Bluma/Blooma. I'm cool with these as long as it's the case across the board. People being inconsistent with where they take their names from is what really grinds my gears when it comes to names.
I'm one of those people that mixes up Funimation and Japanese names at my whim, lol
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by Anime Kitten » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:32 pm
Alruneia wrote:People being inconsistent with where they take their names from is what really grinds my gears when it comes to names.
nickzambuto wrote:I'm one of those people that mixes up Funimation and Japanese names at my whim, lol
I don't mix them up, but I do mix and match. I pretty much use all the FUNimation terms, though with the rare exception, namely Freeza and Vegetto.
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by Wizard Sesame » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:44 pm
I mainly use Funimation names, except when it comes to Tenshinhan. Then, I use Tenshinhan if I use his full name, but Tien if I'm shortening it or writing a more carefree sentence. I like Tenshinhan, but I do like Tien being a nickname.
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by Dbzfan94 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:40 am
People who bash GT for one issue and praise DBS for the same thing
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by Neo-Makaiōshin » Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:58 pm
Fans demonizing current Dragon Ball as souless and marketing driven products when that´s something that series has been from the very beginning the moment Shueisha didn´t axe the series after finishing the Pilaf Arc.
Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.
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by Nejishiki » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:18 pm
I see your point, but there's no need to figure out "Bloomers". It's not a pun. I'm not even sure if "Blooma" is a pun.
It's wordplay, so it falls in line of what's expected in Dragon Ball. As noted, you're not actually calling her "bloomers" in any interpretation. Her name is just based on undergarments.
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by Sailor Haumea » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:27 pm
Nejishiki wrote:I see your point, but there's no need to figure out "Bloomers". It's not a pun. I'm not even sure if "Blooma" is a pun.
It's wordplay, so it falls in line of what's expected in Dragon Ball. As noted, you're not actually calling her "bloomers" in any interpretation. Her name is just based on undergarments.
However, it's too obvious. There's no subtlety there.
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by Ajay » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:35 pm
Sailor Haumea wrote:However, it's too obvious. There's no subtlety there.
Dragon Ball isn't exactly a subtle show. You've got Vegeta, Freeza, Bra, and Trunks running about. I don't see how Blooma is any different.
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by Sailor Haumea » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:39 pm
Ajay wrote:Sailor Haumea wrote:However, it's too obvious. There's no subtlety there.
Dragon Ball isn't exactly a subtle show. You've got Vegeta, Freeza, Bra, and Trunks running about. I don't see how Blooma is any different.
It's like if you called Tarble "Table", or called the Ginyu Force Cheese, Cream, Butter, Milk, and Yogurt, or called Goku Carrot.
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by Nejishiki » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:45 pm
Subtlety is subjective and I struggle to perceive how any official adaption of her name is "obvious", whatever that should mean. I see repetition of the claim without the merit behind it. Is it fact the names are supposed to be hidden? How are you accounting for everyone's speediness at catching universal wordplay? We had a thread in the recent past where a few claimed they've never heard of bloomers in the first place. Nevermind it's a made up name unique to Dragon Ball, so ideally, one wouldn't make a quick connection in this audience. I still see people gasp in shock that Nail is based on "snail". Does that qualify as "obvious"? It's only one letter off like Scargot to "escargot". I suppose the primary issue you take is with Toriyama himself? I'm having difficulty establishing what line is being crossed here. The immediate example, Butta, is an "obvious" name. It applied no wordplay in its original language. It just
is. However, it works internationally because that's not our word. If the root is preference, that's fine. I only take issue that there's a barometer we're supposed subscribe to when it doesn't exist. This is especially the case when the initially crafted adaption is fine for what it is and reflects the tone the author was going for in his original work. You don't want to lose that.
Sailor Haumea wrote:Ajay wrote:Sailor Haumea wrote:However, it's too obvious. There's no subtlety there.
Dragon Ball isn't exactly a subtle show. You've got Vegeta, Freeza, Bra, and Trunks running about. I don't see how Blooma is any different.
It's like if you called Tarble "Table", or called the Ginyu Force Cheese, Cream, Butter, Milk, and Yogurt, or called Goku Carrot.
I've explained why this notion is incorrect. That is not their names in any source.
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by Cure Dragon 255 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:47 pm
I'm really sorry to say this but I think those wanting subtlety are sadly going to be dissapointed. Because Toriyama is not subtle. At All.
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by Ajay » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:50 pm
Sailor Haumea wrote:It's like if you called Tarble "Table", or called the Ginyu Force Cheese, Cream, Butter, Milk, and Yogurt, or called Goku Carrot.
It's not, though. You're talking about using the pun origins are names, which you're right, would be silly because they're not what the Japanese text says.
But when the Japanese itself can be romanised in a way that retains the pun, then that's the best thing to do. We're not calling her "Bloomers", we're calling her "Blooma".
It's like how we know that "Beerus" comes from "Virus" and "Beer", so we use that instead of silly things like "Bills".
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by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:23 am
It grinds my gears when my avatar isn't unique enough. So much in DB to choose from (subtly trying to make this DB related), yet so many use the same or similar avatars.
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by Anime Kitten » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:25 am
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:It grinds my gears when my avatar isn't unique enough.
It's unique now. I've only seen one other person use M10 Videl, and he isn't very active anyways.
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by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:25 am
Anime Kitten wrote:It's unique now.
That's the idea.
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