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Zamasu55
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by Zamasu55 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:49 am
Anime Kitten wrote:Base Goku (GT) VS First Form Frieza (Resurrection 'F')
Base GT Goku (Baby Vegeta saga) is only a little bit stronger than Ssj3 Goku (Buu saga), whereas First form Frieza (ROF) toys with Ssj Gohan (ROF), who's as strong as Ultimate Gohan. So, Frieza stomps.
Base GT Goku (Super 17 saga and Shadow Dragons saga) is much stronger than his Baby Vegeta saga counterpart, but I still think he can't win against Frieza.
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by Zamasu55 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:51 am
nickzambuto wrote:Super Vegetto vs SSJ4 Goku
Super Baby Vegeta 1 > Ssj Vegito.
So, how can he win against Ssj4 Goku who's much, much stronger than Baby?
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by Zamasu55 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:25 am
Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Baby Saga) vs. First Form Frieza (Resurrection F).
2) Goku Black (when he fought Super Saiyan 2 Goku) vs. Final Form Frieza (Resurrection F).
3) A hypothetical Super Saiyan God Gogeta (Fusion Reborn) vs. Golden Frieza (Resurrection F)
1. Ssj4 Goku (Baby Vegeta saga) should win.
2. Final form Frieza (ROF), very easily.
3. Golden Frieza stomps.
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by Zamasu55 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:36 am
In Brightest Day wrote:New fights :
- Avo and Cado vs. Vegeta, Son Gohan, Krillin (vs. first form Freeza) and Freeza (first form).
- Gohan-Boo vs. Son Goku (base, Resurrection F).
- Freeza (true form, Resurrection F) vs. Ultimate Son Gohan (Boo arc).
- Kaioshin vs. SSJ Trunks and SSJ Son Goten (post-ROSAT).
- Krillin vs. Tenshinhan and Yamcha (Resurrection F).
1. I don't quite remember that movie, if I'm not wrong it was stated that Abo and Cado had surpassed Frieza... I'll rewatch it anyway.
2. Buuhan gets absolutely stomped.
3. See above.
4. Kaioshin might be able to pull this off, not too sure though...
5. Yamcha is useless here, Krillin > Tienshinhan.
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by Steven Bloodriver » Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:38 am
Zamasu55 wrote:Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Baby Saga) vs. First Form Frieza (Resurrection F).
2) Goku Black (when he fought Super Saiyan 2 Goku) vs. Final Form Frieza (Resurrection F).
3) A hypothetical Super Saiyan God Gogeta (Fusion Reborn) vs. Golden Frieza (Resurrection F)
1. Ssj4 Goku (Baby Vegeta saga) should win.
2. Final form Frieza (ROF), very easily.
3. Golden Frieza stomps.
1)
Dragon Ball vs.
Dragon Ball Z) Super Saiyan 4 Kid Goku (during his rematch against Piccolo Daimao) vs. Great Apes Raditz, Nappa, and Vegeta.
2)
Dragon Ball Z vs.
Dragon Ball GT) Super Saiyan 3 Teen Gohan vs.Mutchy.
3)
Dragon Ball GT vs.
Dragon Ball Super) Super Saiyan Xeno Gotenks (Super 17 Saga
GT Goten and Future Trunks Saga Future Trunks) vs. Golden Frieza.
4)
Dragon Ball Super vs.
Dragon Ball) Super Trunks (against Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black) vs. Mercenary Tao (if he had rebuilt by both Dr. Gero and Dr. Myuu).
Also many thanks for answering my posts!
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by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:50 am
Steven Bloodriver wrote:
1)
Dragon Ball vs.
Dragon Ball Z) Super Saiyan 4 Kid Goku (during his rematch against Piccolo Daimao) vs. Great Apes Raditz, Nappa, and Vegeta.
2)
Dragon Ball Z vs.
Dragon Ball GT) Super Saiyan 3 Teen Gohan vs.Mutchy.
3)
Dragon Ball GT vs.
Dragon Ball Super) Super Saiyan Xeno Gotenks (Super 17 Saga
GT Goten and Future Trunks Saga Future Trunks) vs. Golden Frieza.
4)
Dragon Ball Super vs.
Dragon Ball) Super Trunks (against Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black) vs. Mercenary Tao (if he had rebuilt by both Dr. Gero and Dr. Myuu).
Also many thanks for answering my posts!
1) Depends on how much you think the multiplier for SSJ4 is, at 500x he can beat Nappa & Raditz and give Vegeta a good fight but he'd lose, at anything above 1000x he effortlessly solos.
2) By Teen Gohan do you mean Cell Saga or Buu Saga? If Buu Saga Mutchy effortlessly solos, if Cell Saga Mutchy solos with slight difficulty.
3) Golden Frieza effortlessly solos
4) Super Trunks effortlessly solos.
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by Angelus » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:42 am
Mercenary Tao VS Master Shen (Both Manga)
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by Zamasu55 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:23 pm
Steven Bloodriver wrote:Zamasu55 wrote:Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Baby Saga) vs. First Form Frieza (Resurrection F).
2) Goku Black (when he fought Super Saiyan 2 Goku) vs. Final Form Frieza (Resurrection F).
3) A hypothetical Super Saiyan God Gogeta (Fusion Reborn) vs. Golden Frieza (Resurrection F)
1. Ssj4 Goku (Baby Vegeta saga) should win.
2. Final form Frieza (ROF), very easily.
3. Golden Frieza stomps.
1)
Dragon Ball vs.
Dragon Ball Z) Super Saiyan 4 Kid Goku (during his rematch against Piccolo Daimao) vs. Great Apes Raditz, Nappa, and Vegeta.
2)
Dragon Ball Z vs.
Dragon Ball GT) Super Saiyan 3 Teen Gohan vs.Mutchy.
3)
Dragon Ball GT vs.
Dragon Ball Super) Super Saiyan Xeno Gotenks (Super 17 Saga
GT Goten and Future Trunks Saga Future Trunks) vs. Golden Frieza.
4)
Dragon Ball Super vs.
Dragon Ball) Super Trunks (against Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black) vs. Mercenary Tao (if he had rebuilt by both Dr. Gero and Dr. Myuu).
Also many thanks for answering my posts!
1. The Oozaruus take this.
2. Mutchy gave Ssj GT Goku a tough fight. The latter's stronger than Buuhan by a good margin, whereas Ssj3 Teen Gohan wouldn't reach Super Buu's level.
3. Golden Frieza.
4. No clue.
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by Steven Bloodriver » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:03 pm
Zamasu55 wrote:Steven Bloodriver wrote:Zamasu55 wrote:
1. Ssj4 Goku (Baby Vegeta saga) should win.
2. Final form Frieza (ROF), very easily.
3. Golden Frieza stomps.
1)
Dragon Ball vs.
Dragon Ball Z) Super Saiyan 4 Kid Goku (during his rematch against Piccolo Daimao) vs. Great Apes Raditz, Nappa, and Vegeta.
2)
Dragon Ball Z vs.
Dragon Ball GT) Super Saiyan 3 Teen Gohan vs.Mutchy.
3)
Dragon Ball GT vs.
Dragon Ball Super) Super Saiyan Xeno Gotenks (Super 17 Saga
GT Goten and Future Trunks Saga Future Trunks) vs. Golden Frieza.
4)
Dragon Ball Super vs.
Dragon Ball) Super Trunks (against Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black) vs. Mercenary Tao (if he had rebuilt by both Dr. Gero and Dr. Myuu).
Also many thanks for answering my posts!
1. The Oozaruus take this.
2. Mutchy gave Ssj GT Goku a tough fight. The latter's stronger than Buuhan by a good margin, whereas Ssj3 Teen Gohan wouldn't reach Super Buu's level.
3. Golden Frieza.
4. No clue.
5) Venyu (Captain Ginyu in Vegeta's Body) vs. Turles.
6) Bio-Broly (Syrupy Form) vs. Super Saiyan Vegeta (Androids Saga).
7) Goku (In Captain Ginyu's Body) vs. Dr. Wheelo.
Eight) Baby Vegeta (Super Saiyan) vs. Goku Black (right before he would have killed Goku, Chi-Chi, and Goten).
9) Demon God Démigra (Makyouka Form) vs. Future Zamasu.
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by Zamasu55 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:19 pm
Steven Bloodriver wrote:Zamasu55 wrote:Steven Bloodriver wrote:
1)
Dragon Ball vs.
Dragon Ball Z) Super Saiyan 4 Kid Goku (during his rematch against Piccolo Daimao) vs. Great Apes Raditz, Nappa, and Vegeta.
2)
Dragon Ball Z vs.
Dragon Ball GT) Super Saiyan 3 Teen Gohan vs.Mutchy.
3)
Dragon Ball GT vs.
Dragon Ball Super) Super Saiyan Xeno Gotenks (Super 17 Saga
GT Goten and Future Trunks Saga Future Trunks) vs. Golden Frieza.
4)
Dragon Ball Super vs.
Dragon Ball) Super Trunks (against Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black) vs. Mercenary Tao (if he had rebuilt by both Dr. Gero and Dr. Myuu).
Also many thanks for answering my posts!
1. The Oozaruus take this.
2. Mutchy gave Ssj GT Goku a tough fight. The latter's stronger than Buuhan by a good margin, whereas Ssj3 Teen Gohan wouldn't reach Super Buu's level.
3. Golden Frieza.
4. No clue.
5) Venyu (Captain Ginyu in Vegeta's Body) vs. Turles.
6) Bio-Broly (Syrupy Form) vs. Super Saiyan Vegeta (Androids Saga).
7) Goku (In Captain Ginyu's Body) vs. Dr. Wheelo.
Eight) Baby Vegeta (Super Saiyan) vs. Goku Black (right before he would have killed Goku, Chi-Chi, and Goten).
9) Demon God Démigra (Makyouka Form) vs. Future Zamasu.
1. Turles stomps.
2. This is easy. Bio Broly tanked Android 18 who had the upper hand on that Vegeta.
7. Ginyu has a slight advantage (23k against 18k), he wins.
8. We don't know how strong was that Black...
9. Future Zamasu just can't die, he's immortal. Anyway, he should be stronger than Demigra.
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by Anime Kitten » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:21 pm
Android #18 (Androids Arc) VS Super Saiyan Grade 2 Vegeta (pre-Time Chamber)
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by Steven Bloodriver » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:40 pm
Anime Kitten wrote:Android #18 (Androids Arc) VS Super Saiyan Grade 2 Vegeta (pre-Time Chamber)
Super Vegeta would have had prevented Cell from becoming complete...and leave Krillin without a wife and daughter.
Unless Android 18 could somehow be revived following Cell's defeat...
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by Zamasu55 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 2:30 pm
Anime Kitten wrote:Android #18 (Androids Arc) VS Super Saiyan Grade 2 Vegeta (pre-Time Chamber)
Vegeta.
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by Anime Kitten » Sat Oct 15, 2016 2:42 pm
Zamasu55 wrote:Vegeta.
Care to explain why?
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by DanielSSJ » Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:06 pm
Anime Kitten wrote:Android #18 (Androids Arc) VS Super Saiyan Grade 2 Vegeta (pre-Time Chamber)
Vegeta becomes a moderate amount more powerful than Android #18 with his premature Grade 2 transformation, but the increased strain and energy consumption and his opponent's infinite stamina quickly turn that advantage on it's head, and he ends up losing anyway.
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by Steven Bloodriver » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:38 pm
DanielSSJ wrote:Anime Kitten wrote:Android #18 (Androids Arc) VS Super Saiyan Grade 2 Vegeta (pre-Time Chamber)
Vegeta becomes a moderate amount more powerful than Android #18 with his premature Grade 2 transformation, but the increased strain and energy consumption and his opponent's infinite stamina quickly turn that advantage on it's head, and he ends up losing anyway.
Dance Fight!
10) Venyu (Captain Ginyu in Vegeta's Body) vs. Beerus.
11) Bio-Broly (Syrupy Form) vs. Vegeta (Battle of Gods Saga).
12) Goku (In Captain Ginyu's Body) vs. Dr. Kochin.
13) Baby Vegeta (Super Saiyan) vs. Goku Black (right before he would have killed Goku, Chi-Chi, and Goten).
14) Demon God Démigra (Final Form) vs. Present Zamasu.
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by DanielSSJ » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:47 pm
Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Dance Fight!
You brought this on yourself. Also, why do you spell Eight out when you do these lists?
5) Venyu (Captain Ginyu in Vegeta's Body) vs. Beerus.
6) Bio-Broly (Syrupy Form) vs. Vegeta (Battle of Gods Saga).
7) Goku (In Captain Ginyu's Body) vs. Dr. Kochin.
The other matches are irrelevant.
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by Anime Kitten » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:51 pm
DanielSSJ wrote:Also, why do you spell Eight out when you do these lists?
Because otherwise it changes to
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by Steven Bloodriver » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:53 pm
DanielSSJ wrote:Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Dance Fight!
You brought this on yourself. Also, why do you spell Eight out when you do these lists?
5) Venyu (Captain Ginyu in Vegeta's Body) vs. Beerus.
6) Bio-Broly (Syrupy Form) vs. Vegeta (Battle of Gods Saga).
7) Goku (In Captain Ginyu's Body) vs. Dr. Kochin.
The other matches are irrelevant.
Because for some reason when I type 8 for these lists it becomes a smiley face instead.
Or also the shorter explanation Anime Kitten gave.
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by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:40 pm
Anime Kitten wrote:Android #18 (Androids Arc) VS Super Saiyan Grade 2 Vegeta (pre-Time Chamber)
Vegeta would destroy 18, she was only about 15-20% above him and his transformation to Grade 2 would give him an even bigger advantage over her. One well aimed Big Bang Attack would end Krillin's hopes of ever obtaining a wife.
