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Well that's what a continuation SHOULD be.sintzu wrote:You might enjoy it more if you don't compare to DB&Z or expect it to be as good.TekTheNinja wrote: You're a little TOO positive... I kinda wish I was like that. I'd sure as hell be enjoying this series more.
This is Dragon Ball so I expect it to be as good as I know Dragon Ball can be, or at least close.
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I know.TekTheNinja wrote: Well that's what a continuation SHOULD be.
This is Dragon Ball so I expect it to be as good as I know Dragon Ball can be, or at least close.
I do as well but if the Trunks arc doesn't reach the original's level then nothing will.
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Well, I think he did enough for a Frieza Soldier, and I liked how they switched him with Ginyu. And on Vegeta killing him, I prefer OP heroes to villains, that's only in Dragon Ball though.
Also I find it odd that the movie poster has a random soldier on it.
Also I find it odd that the movie poster has a random soldier on it.
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BoG arc 20/100
Sluggish pace. Off characterisations. Not very good animation. Awful fights. Only pro being we get more SSG and the SSG ritual.
RF arc 10/100
The movie was fine for what it was dumb fun and it knew it but needing to strech it for an entire arc was uh uh. Constant need for Z throwbacks and flashbacks was a hinderance, like BoG none of the fights were particularly good. Major flaw of the arc was not exploring stuff you'd expect like Freeza training we got one tiny tidbit that was it same for SSGSS we got one tease and that was it. Then giving Tagoma all this development then striping it away for Ginyu just cuz Z throwback yay!
Universe 6 arc 70/100
Started off decent interesting premise. Once the tournament started it began to waver things only started to click after Vegeta's fight with Robot alien guy then it started to become enjoyable. Pacing was fine overall good arc probably would have enjoyed it more if it wasn't for the horrible retellings prior.
Haven't watched them again after airing so opinions may change but yeah that's how I felt about each arc. Trunks arc looks like it'll blow them all away!
Sluggish pace. Off characterisations. Not very good animation. Awful fights. Only pro being we get more SSG and the SSG ritual.
RF arc 10/100
The movie was fine for what it was dumb fun and it knew it but needing to strech it for an entire arc was uh uh. Constant need for Z throwbacks and flashbacks was a hinderance, like BoG none of the fights were particularly good. Major flaw of the arc was not exploring stuff you'd expect like Freeza training we got one tiny tidbit that was it same for SSGSS we got one tease and that was it. Then giving Tagoma all this development then striping it away for Ginyu just cuz Z throwback yay!
Universe 6 arc 70/100
Started off decent interesting premise. Once the tournament started it began to waver things only started to click after Vegeta's fight with Robot alien guy then it started to become enjoyable. Pacing was fine overall good arc probably would have enjoyed it more if it wasn't for the horrible retellings prior.
Haven't watched them again after airing so opinions may change but yeah that's how I felt about each arc. Trunks arc looks like it'll blow them all away!
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BoG arc: 70/100
F arc: 40/100 (because the fight Vegeta vs Frieza)
Champa arc: 90/100
F arc: 40/100 (because the fight Vegeta vs Frieza)
Champa arc: 90/100
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BoG - 4/10
RoF - 1/10
Universe 6 - 5/10
RoF - 1/10
Universe 6 - 5/10
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I enjoy it more than the Buu Saga honestly. Mainly because I never bought Buu as a villain. He was basically a less sophisticated "stronger" version of Cell with his absorbing and regeneration.sintzu wrote:You might enjoy it more if you don't compare to DB&Z or expect it to be as good.TekTheNinja wrote: You're a little TOO positive... I kinda wish I was like that. I'd sure as hell be enjoying this series more.
Anyway:
BoG: 75/100 Not bad but not great either. Decent retelling of the movie with fresh insights and ideas.
RoF: 55/100 Pretty bad overall but would have been better if the movie didn't exist already or Frieza was made to be more threatening. Frieza felt like a monster in DBZ because he was built up over time. When Goku finally went head to head with this myth/legend Toriyama had built up around Frieza it was epic. RoF had none of this. I grade the BoG arc higher because it had a fresh take on its movie counterpart while RoF basically spat on fans
Champa: 85/100 The tournament was interesting. The plot did have holes but I loved a couple things. 1) I loved the SSB Kaio-Ken. It was the first imaginative thing Goku has done in a LONG time. It reminded me of when he was a child and would bust out new techniques on the fly. 2) They made the universe 6 fighters interesting for the most part. I loved how Hit saw no matter his strength he was just a pawn. People ask why he gave up the cube but its very obvious to me....it wasn't worth his self respect or dignity.
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I think that i'm going to change my RoF's rating.
I've been rewatching super's early arcs and after thinking about it, while i still maintain BoG's rating (maybe a 6-7.4/10 would be more fair but i don't care) and Champa's as well; i think that RoF is a solid 3/10, a 4 would be just a big generous rate because it's part of dragon ball.
While i can find connection between BoG, the tournament and the current arc, i can't do the same with RoF, it's existence is completely irrelevant to the rest of the series. In fact, all the slice of life episodes until ep 18 and ep 18 itself could still have existed without RoF and that was pretty much what was holding me back from giving it a 3.
I still like every episode of the RoF arc until ep 21(Tagoma is a good character, Krillin's development....), but it went downhill since ep 22, with ep 27 and Tate's cut as exceptions; two diamonds in a pile of garbage.
I've been rewatching super's early arcs and after thinking about it, while i still maintain BoG's rating (maybe a 6-7.4/10 would be more fair but i don't care) and Champa's as well; i think that RoF is a solid 3/10, a 4 would be just a big generous rate because it's part of dragon ball.
While i can find connection between BoG, the tournament and the current arc, i can't do the same with RoF, it's existence is completely irrelevant to the rest of the series. In fact, all the slice of life episodes until ep 18 and ep 18 itself could still have existed without RoF and that was pretty much what was holding me back from giving it a 3.
I still like every episode of the RoF arc until ep 21(Tagoma is a good character, Krillin's development....), but it went downhill since ep 22, with ep 27 and Tate's cut as exceptions; two diamonds in a pile of garbage.
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Battle of Gods Arc: 70%. This was the perfect opportunity to make the pace better from the original BoG but instead it ruined the pacing drastically like making the SSJG Goku vs Beerus and entire 4 episodes and the the 3rd one being just the clash, Oolong's rock paper scissor's lasting an entire episode, and the 1st Goku vs Beerus fight being too long.
Resurrection 'F' Arc: 60%. For what the RoF movie was, it had little problems but like the BoG Arc it got dragged out way too much and the art just adds insult to injury.
Champa Arc: 80%. This first genuinely good arc in DBS. Art was an issue in a couple of areas and some stuff should've got expanded on a little more (Freeza race,Saiyan's in U6, Magetta) and then Frost was kind of a let down (He's almost a Freeza clone). But besides that everything is fine.
Resurrection 'F' Arc: 60%. For what the RoF movie was, it had little problems but like the BoG Arc it got dragged out way too much and the art just adds insult to injury.
Champa Arc: 80%. This first genuinely good arc in DBS. Art was an issue in a couple of areas and some stuff should've got expanded on a little more (Freeza race,Saiyan's in U6, Magetta) and then Frost was kind of a let down (He's almost a Freeza clone). But besides that everything is fine.
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Both of the movie re-tellings are balls which should never have been made, I'd give them 2-3 at absolute best solely for a couple of episodes that are technically part of said arcs. The U6 is a decent 6 for me, it's definitely got some battles in it but none of them really set the world on fire for me and I dislike KK coming back. The Black arc is still up in the air for me, it's either going to be an overrated piece of crap like the Cell arc or a highly enjoyable mess like the Boo arc.
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Battle of Gods arc: 68/100
Storywise, it's very pleasant and inicially allows us to get to know Beerus an Whis a little more, about what they tipically do and their personalities. It also provides us an insight on small events that tie up Boo arc to the beggining of Super, such as Gohan's wedding, Vegeta's vacation and Goku's new job as a farmer, among other small things; the expansion on additional elements such as the "namekian book of legends" was also interesting. In terms of humor, very good, as expected from a Dragon Ball series. However, I felt that Goku's transformation into SSjGod was a bit overdone and exaggerated, and the battle between Goku and Beerus, although interesting during certain segments, was dragged on too much and the shockwaves scatering throughout the universe and destroying planets was silly and pointless, since it had no relevant repercussions later in the series (at least so far). Also it never explained how or when Pilaf and his crew became kids. Regarding the animation, it was ok until the fighting scenes, which were very disapointing: stiff, slow and dull, overall quite poor. Also loses points because SSjgod Goku's design had less impact than it had in the movie. Still prefer the movie over the arc.
Revival of F arc: 51/100
The way Freeza's revival was handled in the movie had no logic (they never wanted to get close to earth because of the super saiyans, and suddenly one day they decide to go on a sneaking mission and succeed? Why didn't they do that before?), but his reappearance from the healing tank was imposing and "imperial". I loved how Vegeta convinced Whis to train him and the introduction to Whis's training - it felt nostalgic for remembering Kame-sennin's training arc - and we also get to know a bit more about the planet where Beerus lives. Freeza's power up, aswell as Tagoma, in mere 4 months was still preposterous just like the movie. Jaco and Tights (Bulma's sister) are simply unnecessary and add very little (And I hate Jaco, but that's a personal opinion). The battle between the "z-fighters" and Sorbet's soldiers was overall good, but it still pains me Yamcha and Chaozu's absense, and Boo's sudden new hobbie: hybernation; the inclusion of a stronger Tagoma was very, very disappointing and underused, and Ginyu was also nonsense and poorly executed. He waited years to switch bodies with somebody and get's blasted into dust by Vegeta shortly after returning? Gotenks introduction felt rushed and misplaced and Piccolo's death useless. The fight between Goku and Freeza, just as Vegeta vs Freeza, was very good and well executed from my point of view. The ending felt just as bland as in the movie. Points for the dramatic impact of the moments preceeding Earth's destruction. In terms of animation, I'd say it was ok in general, horrible during the whole z-fighters vs Freeza's troops (inlcudes Gohan vs Tagoma and Freeza) and very good in the last part of the battle that envolved the protagonists.
Champa Arc: 89/100
Now this, finally, was new material. The introduction of Champa (and Vados
) and his relationship with Beerus was really nice, and the prospec of a tournament between universes and massive, giant dragon balls were great pluses. However, Goku and Vegeta's 3 year training inside the RoSaT is skippable since it contributed very little to the plot. The new scenario, the tournament grounds, was simply beautiful and one could notice the influence from the egipcian mythology, from which Beerus and Champa are inspired from. The universe 6 fighters were interesting characters (apart from that forgetable, boring Winnie the pooh rip off) and the fights were neat; however, in terms of power scalling, the matches between Vegeta, Goku and Hit were a bit confusing. It was a straight forward tournament arc plot and brought some memories from the early Dragon Ball tournaments. In the end, Zarama's summoning and the wish were glorious and majestic. The animation was very good despite a few minor details, but overall very pleasent.
Storywise, it's very pleasant and inicially allows us to get to know Beerus an Whis a little more, about what they tipically do and their personalities. It also provides us an insight on small events that tie up Boo arc to the beggining of Super, such as Gohan's wedding, Vegeta's vacation and Goku's new job as a farmer, among other small things; the expansion on additional elements such as the "namekian book of legends" was also interesting. In terms of humor, very good, as expected from a Dragon Ball series. However, I felt that Goku's transformation into SSjGod was a bit overdone and exaggerated, and the battle between Goku and Beerus, although interesting during certain segments, was dragged on too much and the shockwaves scatering throughout the universe and destroying planets was silly and pointless, since it had no relevant repercussions later in the series (at least so far). Also it never explained how or when Pilaf and his crew became kids. Regarding the animation, it was ok until the fighting scenes, which were very disapointing: stiff, slow and dull, overall quite poor. Also loses points because SSjgod Goku's design had less impact than it had in the movie. Still prefer the movie over the arc.
Revival of F arc: 51/100
The way Freeza's revival was handled in the movie had no logic (they never wanted to get close to earth because of the super saiyans, and suddenly one day they decide to go on a sneaking mission and succeed? Why didn't they do that before?), but his reappearance from the healing tank was imposing and "imperial". I loved how Vegeta convinced Whis to train him and the introduction to Whis's training - it felt nostalgic for remembering Kame-sennin's training arc - and we also get to know a bit more about the planet where Beerus lives. Freeza's power up, aswell as Tagoma, in mere 4 months was still preposterous just like the movie. Jaco and Tights (Bulma's sister) are simply unnecessary and add very little (And I hate Jaco, but that's a personal opinion). The battle between the "z-fighters" and Sorbet's soldiers was overall good, but it still pains me Yamcha and Chaozu's absense, and Boo's sudden new hobbie: hybernation; the inclusion of a stronger Tagoma was very, very disappointing and underused, and Ginyu was also nonsense and poorly executed. He waited years to switch bodies with somebody and get's blasted into dust by Vegeta shortly after returning? Gotenks introduction felt rushed and misplaced and Piccolo's death useless. The fight between Goku and Freeza, just as Vegeta vs Freeza, was very good and well executed from my point of view. The ending felt just as bland as in the movie. Points for the dramatic impact of the moments preceeding Earth's destruction. In terms of animation, I'd say it was ok in general, horrible during the whole z-fighters vs Freeza's troops (inlcudes Gohan vs Tagoma and Freeza) and very good in the last part of the battle that envolved the protagonists.
Champa Arc: 89/100
Now this, finally, was new material. The introduction of Champa (and Vados
) and his relationship with Beerus was really nice, and the prospec of a tournament between universes and massive, giant dragon balls were great pluses. However, Goku and Vegeta's 3 year training inside the RoSaT is skippable since it contributed very little to the plot. The new scenario, the tournament grounds, was simply beautiful and one could notice the influence from the egipcian mythology, from which Beerus and Champa are inspired from. The universe 6 fighters were interesting characters (apart from that forgetable, boring Winnie the pooh rip off) and the fights were neat; however, in terms of power scalling, the matches between Vegeta, Goku and Hit were a bit confusing. It was a straight forward tournament arc plot and brought some memories from the early Dragon Ball tournaments. In the end, Zarama's summoning and the wish were glorious and majestic. The animation was very good despite a few minor details, but overall very pleasent.I'm back!
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A place where any idiot can give their two cents? Sounds like the perfect place for me to give my review!
BoG 60/100 (episode 1-15):
Negatives: I could go onto a paragraph-long description, but this can be summed up pretty well. The movie did it better. Only 2 things are really worth noting here: Videl's leggings disappearing was an utterly ridiculous mistake. Would've taken 5 minutes to fix, but they couldn't be bothered, which is unforgivable. Second; the universe-destroying punches were pretty lame. Obviously inserted to create artificial tension in the moment, never to be re-visited again. It also drug on too long.
Positives: Interesting artistic choices for the first 4 episodes. I especially liked episode 4. Also, the SoL and character interactions were handled fantastically. Vegeta's octopus stunt was more entertaining than the BINGO Song, which might have been the cheapest humor I've ever seen in Dragon Ball. Episode 15 was neat, too.
RoF 30/100 (episode 16-27):
Negatives: Outsourced, ugly, boring, contrived.
Positives: Okay training, still great character interactions. Ginyu was kind of funny for a few seconds, ending was better than the movie's. Also, about 1/3rd of an explanation of what God Ki is was given. Foreshadowing
Interuniversal Tournament 60/100 (episode 28-41):
Negatives: No tension, boring choreography. For some reason, only 1 character with any long-term potential. The Kaioken fight felt contrived. Monaka's reveal was a let sown
Positives: It's a tournament, I like tournaments. Every challenger posed a unique challenge for Vegeta and Goku to overcome. Champa and Vados are fun, Kabe brought interesting lore to the table Magetta was cute. The look on Beerus' and Champa's face when Zeno showed up was priceless.
Planet Potatotomato .07/.396 (episode 42-46)
Negatives: I would list some negatives, but it is actually so forgettable that I can't give a legitimate list.
Positives: Gotenks shows up
BoG 60/100 (episode 1-15):
Negatives: I could go onto a paragraph-long description, but this can be summed up pretty well. The movie did it better. Only 2 things are really worth noting here: Videl's leggings disappearing was an utterly ridiculous mistake. Would've taken 5 minutes to fix, but they couldn't be bothered, which is unforgivable. Second; the universe-destroying punches were pretty lame. Obviously inserted to create artificial tension in the moment, never to be re-visited again. It also drug on too long.
Positives: Interesting artistic choices for the first 4 episodes. I especially liked episode 4. Also, the SoL and character interactions were handled fantastically. Vegeta's octopus stunt was more entertaining than the BINGO Song, which might have been the cheapest humor I've ever seen in Dragon Ball. Episode 15 was neat, too.
RoF 30/100 (episode 16-27):
Negatives: Outsourced, ugly, boring, contrived.
Positives: Okay training, still great character interactions. Ginyu was kind of funny for a few seconds, ending was better than the movie's. Also, about 1/3rd of an explanation of what God Ki is was given. Foreshadowing
Interuniversal Tournament 60/100 (episode 28-41):
Negatives: No tension, boring choreography. For some reason, only 1 character with any long-term potential. The Kaioken fight felt contrived. Monaka's reveal was a let sown
Positives: It's a tournament, I like tournaments. Every challenger posed a unique challenge for Vegeta and Goku to overcome. Champa and Vados are fun, Kabe brought interesting lore to the table Magetta was cute. The look on Beerus' and Champa's face when Zeno showed up was priceless.
Planet Potatotomato .07/.396 (episode 42-46)
Negatives: I would list some negatives, but it is actually so forgettable that I can't give a legitimate list.
Positives: Gotenks shows up
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BoG: 70 out of 100
RF: 50 out of 100
Champa: 90 out of 100
RF: 50 out of 100
Champa: 90 out of 100
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BOG Arc: 70/100
The movie was incredible and in my opinion redoing everything was pointless. We got some nice scenes though like SSJ GOD transformation and fight vs Beerus.
ROF Arc: 50/100
Pretty boring arc overall. To me it looks like this was a training arc if guys know what I mean...
Champa Arc: 80/100
First real arc(if you already saw the movies). Good addition of characters like Cabba and Hit. Good fights and my favorite episode of the series so far. Episode 39.
The movie was incredible and in my opinion redoing everything was pointless. We got some nice scenes though like SSJ GOD transformation and fight vs Beerus.
ROF Arc: 50/100
Pretty boring arc overall. To me it looks like this was a training arc if guys know what I mean...
Champa Arc: 80/100
First real arc(if you already saw the movies). Good addition of characters like Cabba and Hit. Good fights and my favorite episode of the series so far. Episode 39.
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BoG 75/100: Pretending Episode 5 never existed, this arc is slightly under the movie itself.
Positives: Slice of Life episodes were great. Pretty good animation in the Godku vs Beerus fight. It expanded upon the movie just a little bit.
Negatives: SSJ Goku vs Beerus just didnt hold up (I'm biased towards this because I just love the Movie version with HERO playing in the background). Episode 5, why.
RoF 70/100 before the Frieza fight. 40/100 after the Frieza fight: Taking away the best thing the movie had (The crazy animation) really just hurt this arc.
Positives: Everything from Vegeta convincing Whis to train him up to Frieza arriving on Earth. Episode 27 was pretty good too.
Negatives: Wasted opportunity with Tagoma!Ginyu vs The Z-Fighters or Gotenks. SSB Goku vs Golden Frieza (Tate's cuts being the only good things out of it.) Much more.
Champa Arc 90/100: Now here's when Super is really showing what it's made of, and it's awesome.
Positives: Slice of Life episodes are great as usual. The Tournament itself got better and better with each episode. That fucking Goku vs Hit fight. Cabba and Vegeta's interactions were great too.
Negatives: Frost vs Piccolo. I'm not a hardcore Piccolo fan but this just disappoints me to no end.
Super as of now (counting the Trunks arc): 80/100
Positives: Slice of Life episodes were great. Pretty good animation in the Godku vs Beerus fight. It expanded upon the movie just a little bit.
Negatives: SSJ Goku vs Beerus just didnt hold up (I'm biased towards this because I just love the Movie version with HERO playing in the background). Episode 5, why.
RoF 70/100 before the Frieza fight. 40/100 after the Frieza fight: Taking away the best thing the movie had (The crazy animation) really just hurt this arc.
Positives: Everything from Vegeta convincing Whis to train him up to Frieza arriving on Earth. Episode 27 was pretty good too.
Negatives: Wasted opportunity with Tagoma!Ginyu vs The Z-Fighters or Gotenks. SSB Goku vs Golden Frieza (Tate's cuts being the only good things out of it.) Much more.
Champa Arc 90/100: Now here's when Super is really showing what it's made of, and it's awesome.
Positives: Slice of Life episodes are great as usual. The Tournament itself got better and better with each episode. That fucking Goku vs Hit fight. Cabba and Vegeta's interactions were great too.
Negatives: Frost vs Piccolo. I'm not a hardcore Piccolo fan but this just disappoints me to no end.
Super as of now (counting the Trunks arc): 80/100
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Battle of Gods Arc: 70/100
This arc was a good retelling of the movie and a great start to Dragon Ball Super. The animation and the art were good (apart from episode 5, but that got fixed so it no longer bothers me) and I liked Goku vs Beerus long fight. Overall it was very solid and fun. People still complain about this arc mosty because of episode 5 because it's cool to hate on that episode, but after the fixes it's completely fine. The only thing that really bothered me was the lack of blood. I don't even care about the episode long rock-paper-scissors game because that was filler, and DBZ had much more filler than DBS.
Resurrection of Freezer Arc: 55/100
This arc was mediocre, but I liked all the changes they did from the movie. I like the fact they showed more of Whis' training and explained how Goku and Vegeta obtained Super Saiyan Blue. I also liked Tagoma's role and Ginyu's return quite enjoyable. The huge downside to this arc were the battles. The animation was shit, the art too was bad. It got so bad I actually thought of quitting watching Super if it weren't for a new story starting after it. The only enjoyable battle was Vegeta's beatdown of Freezer. I'm also quite disappointed they didn't bother fixing most of the animation in the Blu-Ray disc. Especially Base Goku vs Freezer, which was the one who needed to be fixed most.
God of Destruction Champa Arc: 80/100
This arc redeemed Super to me. I liked it quite a lot. Although Goku vs Botamo was complete shit on all levels, and some of Goku vs Frost and Vegeta vs Magetta were badly animated too. By the way, I would have mentioned something about Vegeta not being at his best against Hit because of him being tired from the previous battles, but that's not much of a problem at all. Also it would have been better if they explained that Time-Skip doesn't work on more powerful enemies as they mentioned in the manga, because at times I was wondering if Hit would be able to beat the Gods. About the Kaio-Ken, they should have just straight up told us that Goku can only use it in low-stakes situation/will never use it again because if he does he will damage is brain and body to no returning point, if they didn't want us to guess "Why doesn't Goku use Kaio-Ken".
Goku Black Arc: 90/100
This arc was almost everything I wanted to see from Super: Future Trunks back, which is one of my favorite characters in the franchise, Time-Travelling involved (I'm a sucker for time-related things) and a evil Goku. Even if it turned out it wasn't Goku but it was expected. Also we finally got some stakes and more information regarding Beerus and Whis.
The animation of this arc is surprisingly very good, the best of Dragon Ball Super by a long shot. The story also was on DBZ levels and the villain(s) is one of the best the franchise has ever produced. Overall I've been very, very satisfied with this arc, even though sometimes it didn't make much sense power levels-wise, and Goku also acted too much like a moron on few occasions.
This arc was a good retelling of the movie and a great start to Dragon Ball Super. The animation and the art were good (apart from episode 5, but that got fixed so it no longer bothers me) and I liked Goku vs Beerus long fight. Overall it was very solid and fun. People still complain about this arc mosty because of episode 5 because it's cool to hate on that episode, but after the fixes it's completely fine. The only thing that really bothered me was the lack of blood. I don't even care about the episode long rock-paper-scissors game because that was filler, and DBZ had much more filler than DBS.
Resurrection of Freezer Arc: 55/100
This arc was mediocre, but I liked all the changes they did from the movie. I like the fact they showed more of Whis' training and explained how Goku and Vegeta obtained Super Saiyan Blue. I also liked Tagoma's role and Ginyu's return quite enjoyable. The huge downside to this arc were the battles. The animation was shit, the art too was bad. It got so bad I actually thought of quitting watching Super if it weren't for a new story starting after it. The only enjoyable battle was Vegeta's beatdown of Freezer. I'm also quite disappointed they didn't bother fixing most of the animation in the Blu-Ray disc. Especially Base Goku vs Freezer, which was the one who needed to be fixed most.
God of Destruction Champa Arc: 80/100
This arc redeemed Super to me. I liked it quite a lot. Although Goku vs Botamo was complete shit on all levels, and some of Goku vs Frost and Vegeta vs Magetta were badly animated too. By the way, I would have mentioned something about Vegeta not being at his best against Hit because of him being tired from the previous battles, but that's not much of a problem at all. Also it would have been better if they explained that Time-Skip doesn't work on more powerful enemies as they mentioned in the manga, because at times I was wondering if Hit would be able to beat the Gods. About the Kaio-Ken, they should have just straight up told us that Goku can only use it in low-stakes situation/will never use it again because if he does he will damage is brain and body to no returning point, if they didn't want us to guess "Why doesn't Goku use Kaio-Ken".
Goku Black Arc: 90/100
This arc was almost everything I wanted to see from Super: Future Trunks back, which is one of my favorite characters in the franchise, Time-Travelling involved (I'm a sucker for time-related things) and a evil Goku. Even if it turned out it wasn't Goku but it was expected. Also we finally got some stakes and more information regarding Beerus and Whis.
The animation of this arc is surprisingly very good, the best of Dragon Ball Super by a long shot. The story also was on DBZ levels and the villain(s) is one of the best the franchise has ever produced. Overall I've been very, very satisfied with this arc, even though sometimes it didn't make much sense power levels-wise, and Goku also acted too much like a moron on few occasions.
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Re: Kanzenshuu Members Grade DB Super By Arcs!
BoG arc: 60/100
I liked extended beerus vs goku fight,ssj2 enraged vegeta vs beerus as well, I´ve always liked 4-5 episode fights, but the episode 5 was wordlwide trending topic and we all know why...
RoF arc: 50/100
Freeza is the DB character I like the most because of namek arc and his fight vs goku ( since I like long fights, imagine how much I loved this one) and his return is enough for me to enjoy this arc, I liked him defeating a ssj gohan not a base gohan like in the movie, him pummeling ssb goku not just being slighly superior to him made him more threatening too, but apart form that the entire arc can possibly be the worst arc ever, the animation actually bottomed out and a lot of situation full of potential were wasted( freeza training, goku and vegeta achieving ssb form,gotenks appearance, gohan vs tagoma/ginew) it´s curious to see how on one hand base goku vs freeza is one of the worst fight ever seen in the series and on the other hand the very same battle that took place in namek is one of the best fight ever seen in any series.
Champa arc: 60/100 : the first arc we all didn´t know how it was going to end up, the tournament involving universe 6 fighters had plenty of potential but at the end of the day we have a saiyan who isn´t even aware of SSJ existence, a frost who would´ve lost against piccolo if he hadn´t cheated, a machine defeated by a ssj vegeta ( I enjoyed the fight though) and I can´t even remember the first fighter´s name. Vegeta and especially goku vs hit fight was amazing, no one expected the time-leap technique Hit used in the battle, and goku coming up with a way to counter it reminded me of the first budokai tenkaichi tournaments.
Black goku and zamasu arc: 85/100
A well-developed villain, time-travel stuff, future trunks back with a new transformation, evil goku, double team fights, epic battles, fusions of both main characters and villains which was never seen before.. the arc remains unfinished yet but this is the arc that can stand up to DBZ and DB and definitively put Super above GT.
I liked extended beerus vs goku fight,ssj2 enraged vegeta vs beerus as well, I´ve always liked 4-5 episode fights, but the episode 5 was wordlwide trending topic and we all know why...
RoF arc: 50/100
Freeza is the DB character I like the most because of namek arc and his fight vs goku ( since I like long fights, imagine how much I loved this one) and his return is enough for me to enjoy this arc, I liked him defeating a ssj gohan not a base gohan like in the movie, him pummeling ssb goku not just being slighly superior to him made him more threatening too, but apart form that the entire arc can possibly be the worst arc ever, the animation actually bottomed out and a lot of situation full of potential were wasted( freeza training, goku and vegeta achieving ssb form,gotenks appearance, gohan vs tagoma/ginew) it´s curious to see how on one hand base goku vs freeza is one of the worst fight ever seen in the series and on the other hand the very same battle that took place in namek is one of the best fight ever seen in any series.
Champa arc: 60/100 : the first arc we all didn´t know how it was going to end up, the tournament involving universe 6 fighters had plenty of potential but at the end of the day we have a saiyan who isn´t even aware of SSJ existence, a frost who would´ve lost against piccolo if he hadn´t cheated, a machine defeated by a ssj vegeta ( I enjoyed the fight though) and I can´t even remember the first fighter´s name. Vegeta and especially goku vs hit fight was amazing, no one expected the time-leap technique Hit used in the battle, and goku coming up with a way to counter it reminded me of the first budokai tenkaichi tournaments.
Black goku and zamasu arc: 85/100
A well-developed villain, time-travel stuff, future trunks back with a new transformation, evil goku, double team fights, epic battles, fusions of both main characters and villains which was never seen before.. the arc remains unfinished yet but this is the arc that can stand up to DBZ and DB and definitively put Super above GT.