The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by The Monkey King » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:04 pm

Luke Cage (Netflix series) vs Pre Roshi training Goku.

I'd say Cage edges kid Goku out in terms of durability (gunshots and an axe swing to the head still 'hurt' Goku)
But Goku's strength feats (lifting and throwing a car, lifting and crushing boulders) do seem to be more impressive than Cage's
In terms of speed I don't think that's much of a factor in this fight although Goku can run at roughly 30+ mph.

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Post by Alruneia » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:22 pm

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Post by Anime Kitten » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:35 pm

Alruneia wrote:8.)
I don't see the problem.
Quote my post if you don't get the trick. It's pretty simple.
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Equal power. Melee only.
Base Goku VS Final Form Freeza
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:45 pm

Anime Kitten wrote: Equal power. Melee only.
Base Goku VS Final Form Freeza
This is a tricky one, on one hand Goku is a far more skilled fighter, but Frieza is much more durable. I'm assuming he can't use the Kaioken since if he could he'd easily take this. I suppose I'd have to give it to Frieza since his durability and unorthodox attacks would be too much for Goku to handle, especially since he also has a 5th limb in the form of a tail.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:17 pm

WMAT MATCHES! :lol:

Pamput VS Man-Wolf

Ranfan VS Bacterian

King Chappa VS Mercenary Tao

Nam VS Giran (No gum)
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Post by Angelus » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:30 pm

Edited. Double post
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:46 pm

Angelus wrote:Sorry I meant no stripping for the Ranfan match, not no gum. I'm on my phone and can't edit posts
You're really limiting Ranfan here. If you let her strip, especially fully, she can take down most characters in the series.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:48 pm

SS2 Vegeta. SS2 Trunks & SS2 Healthy Goku (Androids Saga) vs 16, 17 and 18.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:17 pm

Anime Kitten wrote: Equal power. Melee only.
Base Goku VS Final Form Freeza
- Freeza has some insane durability, but Goku is much more skilled. Odds are that without a power advantage, Freeza will eventually succumb to Goku.
Angelus wrote:WMAT MATCHES! :lol:

Bacterian VS Man-Wolf

Ranfan VS Pamput (No stripping)

King Chappa VS Mercenary Tao

Nam VS Giran (No gum)
- Batcerian's stench is incredibly effective against Man-wolf's canine sense of smell and leaves him catatonic. Bacterian wins without throwing a punch.

- I could see Panput falling for Ranfan's feminine wiles and knocking him out of bounds while he was distracted.

- I personally rationalize the others' opinions about Goku's chances against Chapa and their later reaction to his humiliating defeat as having more to due with his fearsome reputation than any first-hand knowledge of their own. Power-wise, I'd say he's about as strong as his fellow Tenkaichi Budokai champion, Akkuman. Taopaipai is more than strong and skilled enough to beat with even without resorting to the Dodonpa.

- The only reason Goku had so much trouble with Giran was because of his Gum, which you banned. Namu is a legitimately skilled and powerful martial artist and would beat Giran without too much trouble.
TheUltimateNinja wrote:SS2 Vegeta. SS2 Trunks & SS2 Healthy Goku (Androids Saga) vs 16, 17 and 18.
- The two premature Super Saiyan 2s are strong enough to take out Androids 17 and 18 very easily, but 16 would present a problem. If one of the Saiyans take out the twins, while the other holds off 16, they can win the fight very easily.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:20 pm

DanielSSJ wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote: Equal power. Melee only.
Base Goku VS Final Form Freeza
- Freeza has some insane durability, but Goku is much more skilled. Odds are that without an insane power advantage, Freeza will eventually succumb to Goku.
Angelus wrote:WMAT MATCHES! :lol:

Bacterian VS Man-Wolf

Ranfan VS Pamput (No stripping)

King Chappa VS Mercenary Tao

Nam VS Giran (No gum)
- Batcerian's stench is incredibly effective against Man-wolf's canine sense of smell and leaves him catatonic. Bacterian wins without throwing a punch.

- I could see Panput falling for Ranfan's feminine wiles and knocking him out of bounds while he was distracted.

- I personally rationalize the others' opinions about Goku's chances against Chapa and their later reaction to his humiliating defeat as having more to due with his fearsome reputation than any first-hand knowledge of their own. Power-wise, I'd say he's about as strong as his fellow Tenkaichi Budokai champion, Akkuman. Taopaipai is more than strong and skilled enough to beat with even without resorting to the Dodonpa.

- The only reason Goku had so much trouble with Giran was because of his Gum, which you banned. Namu is a legitimately skilled and powerful martial artist and would beat Giran without too much trouble.
TheUltimateNinja wrote:SS2 Vegeta. SS2 Trunks & SS2 Healthy Goku (Androids Saga) vs 16, 17 and 18.
- The two premature Super Saiyan 2s are strong enough to take out Androids 17 and 18 very easily, but 16 would present a problem. If one of the Saiyans take out the twins, while the other holds off 16, they can win the fight very easily.
Okay, what if they're all Grade 2s?

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Post by DanielSSJ » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:58 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:Okay, what if they're all Grade 2s?
Then they lose. At Grade 2, Goku and Vegeta will only a bit stronger than Androids 17 and 18, and a decent amount weaker than Android 16. That, coupled with the larger energy drain and the Androids' infinite stamina spells their defeat.

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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:09 am

DanielSSJ wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:Okay, what if they're all Grade 2s?
Then they lose. At Grade 2, Goku and Vegeta will only a bit stronger than Androids 17 and 18, and a decent amount weaker than Android 16. That, coupled with the larger energy drain and the Androids' infinite stamina spells their defeat.
Okay, how about:
1) They get 3 months in the RoSAT in addition to being Grade 2s

2) They're all SS2s again but this time Goku's sick.

3) Trunks and Vegeta are alone, but are both SS2s.

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Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:21 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
DanielSSJ wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:Okay, what if they're all Grade 2s?
Then they lose. At Grade 2, Goku and Vegeta will only a bit stronger than Androids 17 and 18, and a decent amount weaker than Android 16. That, coupled with the larger energy drain and the Androids' infinite stamina spells their defeat.
Okay, how about:
1) They get 3 months in the RoSAT in addition to being Grade 2s

2) They're all SS2s again but this time Goku's sick.

3) Trunks and Vegeta are alone, but are both SS2s.
Oh shit, I'd didn't realize that Trunks was supposed to be here, too. For previous SS2 match, the Saiyans win, but even faster. For the last Grade 2 match, they still lose, but they end up taking either #17 or #18 with them. Moving on...

1) The three months in the time chamber (I'm assuming that Vegeta didn't leave the other two to train by himself, like he did with Trunk in the series) is more than enough to push them all to be at least as strong as Android 16 in their Grade 2 forms. The stamina doesn't cause a problem now that all three of them can pulverize Androids #17 and #18 before they start losing power, and 16 has no way of dealing with three guys at least as strong as he is coming at him at once.

2) Goku could be hospitalized, and the Androids still lose. Vegeta is strong enough to hold off Android #16 on his own, while Trunks butchers #17 and #18. Trunks then comes to his dad's aid and they overwhelm #16.

3) Same result as above.

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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:27 am

DanielSSJ wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
DanielSSJ wrote: Then they lose. At Grade 2, Goku and Vegeta will only a bit stronger than Androids 17 and 18, and a decent amount weaker than Android 16. That, coupled with the larger energy drain and the Androids' infinite stamina spells their defeat.
Okay, how about:
1) They get 3 months in the RoSAT in addition to being Grade 2s

2) They're all SS2s again but this time Goku's sick.

3) Trunks and Vegeta are alone, but are both SS2s.
Oh shit, I'd didn't realize that Trunks was supposed to be here, too. For previous SS2 match, the Saiyans win, but even faster. For the last Grade 2 match, they still lose, but they end up taking either #17 or #18 with them. Moving on...

1) The three months in the time chamber (I'm assuming that Vegeta didn't leave the other two to train by himself, like he did with Trunk in the series) is more than enough to push them all to be at least as strong as Android 16 in their Grade 2 forms. The stamina doesn't cause a problem now that all three of them can pulverize Androids #17 and #18 before they start losing power, and 16 has no way of dealing with three guys at least as strong as he is coming at him at once.

2) Goku could be hospitalized, and the Androids still lose. Vegeta is strong enough to hold off Android #16 on his own, while Trunks butchers #17 and #18. Trunks then comes to his dad's aid and they overwhelm #16.

3) Same result as above.
Okay, how about all 3 of them are hospitalized but now they're SS3s.

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Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:32 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:Okay, how about all 3 of them are hospitalized but now they're SS3s.
The blast the Androids out of existence before having fatal heart attacks due to SS3s insane energy drain. Double Knockout.

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DanielSSJ wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:Okay, how about all 3 of them are hospitalized but now they're SS3s.
The blast the Androids out of existence before having fatal heart attacks due to SS3s insane energy drain. Double Knockout.
But here's the twist: The reason they're in the hospital in the first place is due to overuse of SS3. They discovered a way to use the form a couple weeks before the android attack and spent all their time training in it, which unfortunately caused them to become incapacitated on the very the day the androids arrive. They should be much stronger than before, so can one guy obliterate all 3 androids himself before dying so the others may live?

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Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:39 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:But here's the twist: The reason they're in the hospital in the first place is due to overuse of SS3. They discovered a way to use the form a couple weeks before the android attack and spent all their time training in it, which unfortunately caused them to become incapacitated on the very the day the androids arrive. They should be much stronger than before, so can one guy obliterate all 3 androids himself before dying so the others may live?
Oh, I thought they were bedridden due to the heart virus. SS3's energy drain is bad, but it's not inherently lethal. The Saiyan who uses it kills the Androids before passing out from exhaustion.

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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:42 am

DanielSSJ wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:But here's the twist: The reason they're in the hospital in the first place is due to overuse of SS3. They discovered a way to use the form a couple weeks before the android attack and spent all their time training in it, which unfortunately caused them to become incapacitated on the very the day the androids arrive. They should be much stronger than before, so can one guy obliterate all 3 androids himself before dying so the others may live?
Oh, I thought they were bedridden due to the heart virus. SS3's energy drain is bad, but it's not inherently lethal. The Saiyan who uses it kills the Androids before passing out from exhaustion.
What if they contracted the heart virus from using SS3? What if Cell joins the fray, and he too found a way to use SS3, but now he has the heart virus from using it too?

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Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:58 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:What if they contracted the heart virus from using SS3? What if Cell joins the fray, and he too found a way to use SS3, but now he has the heart virus from using it too?
I think we've taken this a bit too far. Also, I sorta doubt that Cell could get sick at all.

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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:02 am

DanielSSJ wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:What if they contracted the heart virus from using SS3? What if Cell joins the fray, and he too found a way to use SS3, but now he has the heart virus from using it too?
I think we've taken this a bit too far. Also, I sorta doubt that Cell could get sick at all.
Alright, what if when Goku got to Namek he decided to fuse with Vegeta to take Frieza?

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