"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by DBS916 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:37 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So, Gowasu will go the future world as well... This means that Goku & co. will also have a Potara set available for their fight against Merged Zamasu! :wink:
I hope this happens. That way our heroes can stand a chance against a fused Black/Zamasu. SSJB Vegito would be so awesome like he when he was SSJ fighting against Super Buu.

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Post by Alruneia » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:43 am

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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:34 am

namekiansaiyan wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So, Gowasu will go the future world as well... This means that Goku & co. will also have a Potara set available for their fight against Merged Zamasu! :wink:
If that happens then this will be my least favourite arc in the franchise. Fanfiction galore.
What's exactly is fanfiction here?
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:43 am

namekiansaiyan wrote: Fanfiction galore.
This is the most overused non-criticism. Just because something is a little too convenient, or maybe not creative enough for you, doesn't make it fan-fiction. Sorry to nitpick, but buzz-words kill discussions, and they annoy me to no end.
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Post by namekiansaiyan » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:16 am

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So, Gowasu will go the future world as well... This means that Goku & co. will also have a Potara set available for their fight against Merged Zamasu! :wink:
If that happens then this will be my least favourite arc in the franchise. Fanfiction galore.
What's exactly is fanfiction here?
The fusion with people hoping for SSB Vegito. People always seem to want old and not new or just Super Saiyan 10 or a fusion of every transformation. Evil Goku is fanfiction so is Trunks returning and using Final Flash.

Mafuba is a better idea than fusion but for too many it is not 'cool' enough. With the Mafuba you can have the fun of trying to seal them away whereas with the fusion it will be that they are stronger and that is it.

How is fusion, then one shotting someone, fun at all.

I like the idea of someone holding them off while the Mafuba is performed and then some sort of tennis match with reverse Mafubas, but this obviously will not happen.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:23 am

My prediction is that Vegeta & Trunks will merge with the Potara, and they will defeat Merged Zamasu by cooperating with Goku, who has the Mafuba.
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Post by Kanassa » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:32 am

Mai raids their hideout/ Shit! SHE'S GONNA STEAL THEIR ILLEGAL STASH OF TEA!

Also, if fusion is 'Bad Fanfiction', so is the mafuba.
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Post by Noah » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:00 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So, Gowasu will go the future world as well... This means that Goku & co. will also have a Potara set available for their fight against Merged Zamasu! :wink:
If that happens then this will be my least favourite arc in the franchise. Fanfiction galore.
My thoughts exactly. So much damn fanservice that it hurts, I was actually expecting for them to defeat the main antagonist once without necessarily surpassing him
Kanassa wrote:Also, if fusion is 'Bad Fanfiction', so is the mafuba.
No, it's not... The last time we saw this tecnique was decades ago in original Dragon Ball.
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Post by Kanassa » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:06 pm

Noah wrote:
No, it's not... The last time we saw this tecnique was decades ago in original Dragon Ball.
And?
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Post by Noah » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:21 pm

Kanassa wrote:And?
And is not overused as fusion in the series in general and in fanfiction as well?
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Post by Will » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:24 pm

Goku and Vegeta only fused once in Canon/Super continuity, it isn't overused.

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Post by Noah » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:27 pm

Will wrote:Goku and Vegeta only fused once in Canon/Super continuity, it isn't overused.
I said in series in general, mate, that include Z, Movies, GT, etc. Also Super do not follow the manga precisely (remember that Gregory and Frog Ginyu are a thing)
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Post by Kanassa » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:36 pm

Noah wrote:
Kanassa wrote:And?
And is not overused as fusion in the series in general and in fanfiction as well?
In series the mafuba is used four times (Now about to be five) and successful twice, in general the Fusion is used three times and is technically successful twice. In fanfiction they are both overused.
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When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by Will » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:38 pm

Using a fusion make sense to use in this story arc.

Not using the fusion just because:
- A movie, that isn't in Super continuity, did it once.
- A serie, that isn't in Super continuity, did it.
- And several video game make plenty of non-canon fusion.

It make no sense to limit the story because side-product did it.

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Post by dbgtFO » Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:09 pm

Kanassa wrote:Mai raids their hideout/ Shit! SHE'S GONNA STEAL THEIR ILLEGAL STASH OF TEA!
I'm certainly looking forward to Mai defeating the two of them by threatening to light up their fine collection of tea :lol:

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Post by Kanassa » Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:12 pm

dbgtFO wrote:
Kanassa wrote:Mai raids their hideout/ Shit! SHE'S GONNA STEAL THEIR ILLEGAL STASH OF TEA!
I'm certainly looking forward to Mai defeating the two of them by threatening to light up their fine collection of tea :lol:
It turns out that Black and Zamasu were just misunderstood this whole time, they just had to learn to say no to dr-Tea!
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Post by GodVegetto91 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:16 pm

I hope they will reveal merged Zamasu's design in this months V Jump!! xD leaks should be coming pretty soon. Can't wait!

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Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:36 pm

GodVegetto91 wrote:I hope they will reveal merged Zamasu's design in this months V Jump!! xD leaks should be coming pretty soon. Can't wait!
Outside of the initial designs for Black, Trunks and Mai they've kept away from showing stuff before it happens this arc, with the sole exception being when Amazon posted images of art cards before they were supposed to, spoiling what Rose looked like. I imagine unless someone messes up the first time that we will see Supreme God Zamasu will be either in the episode itself or the NEP on the previous episode.

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Post by Nekis13 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:02 pm

Oh Toriyama/Toei/Whatever please give me Beerus and Vegetto breaking "Merged" Zamasu's shit and then finishing it off with the Mafuba. Seriously
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Post by GodVegetto91 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:42 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
GodVegetto91 wrote:I hope they will reveal merged Zamasu's design in this months V Jump!! xD leaks should be coming pretty soon. Can't wait!
Outside of the initial designs for Black, Trunks and Mai they've kept away from showing stuff before it happens this arc, with the sole exception being when Amazon posted images of art cards before they were supposed to, spoiling what Rose looked like. I imagine unless someone messes up the first time that we will see Supreme God Zamasu will be either in the episode itself or the NEP on the previous episode.
Well this "Merged" Zamasu is going to become an extremely relevant character in this arc. The ultimate main villain. So there's a pretty high chance they will show him in this weeks V Jump. Leaks should start appearing anytime now. 16-18th.

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