The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

[TheUltimateNinja]

1) Super Saiyan 2 Goku vs. Perfect Cell. Even at the full power of both the normal Perfect Form and (if even possible) the Power Weighted Perfect Form, Cell would have had no chance whatsoever to win against an out-for-blood Super Saiyan 2 Goku.

2) Super Saiyan 2 Goku and Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks vs. Perfect Cell. Cell would have been beaten so badly by the two vengeful Saiyans that the Perfect Bio-Android would never have the opportunity to come back as Super Perfect Cell.

3) Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks vs. Perfect Cell. As the former already was an even match for the Cell Juniors as a Super Saiyan, Future Trunks at Super Saiyan 2 during the Cell Games would have easily beaten Perfect Cell, but the son of Vegeta would have been truly challenged if Cell were to somehow come back in his Super Perfect state.

I disagree with 3, I feel like Cell's full power could match SS2 Trunks, plus Cell has more stamina and skills and he can also regenerate, so if Trunks were on his own he'd probably lose.

Even though Super Saiyan 2 burns energy like jet fuel when compared to Super Saiyan and recovering that said energy from taking damage from battle is much harder because of the sheer amount of willpower that is needed to simply stay transformed, Future Trunks would have only been experiencing those problems if he was fighting someone just as strong or even stronger than he was in this hypothetical scenario. But any Super Saiyan 2, even a newly awakened one, from the Cell Games and onward, would have been beaten Cell in any of his forms.

But at this point Trunks is weaker than Vegeta who is much weaker than Goku who is weaker than Gohan, so SSJ2 Trunks won't really be strong enough to overwhelm Cell.

I'd rank them in power like this:
FP Cell: 12
MSSJ Gohan (Enraged): 12
MSSJ Gohan (Hesitating): 10.5
Cell (Suppressed vs Goku): 10.25
Goku: 10
Vegeta: 6
Trunks: 5.5

So SSJ2 Trunks would only be at 11, which is weaker than Full Power Perfect Cell.

[Steven Bloodriver]

What if the Power Rangers had met Whis before joining the Z Fighters in Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F?

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if the Power Rangers had met Whis before joining the Z Fighters in Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F?

They would become irrelevant immediately.

[Steven Bloodriver]

I disagree with 3, I feel like Cell's full power could match SS2 Trunks, plus Cell has more stamina and skills and he can also regenerate, so if Trunks were on his own he'd probably lose.

Even though Super Saiyan 2 burns energy like jet fuel when compared to Super Saiyan and recovering that said energy from taking damage from battle is much harder because of the sheer amount of willpower that is needed to simply stay transformed, Future Trunks would have only been experiencing those problems if he was fighting someone just as strong or even stronger than he was in this hypothetical scenario. But any Super Saiyan 2, even a newly awakened one, from the Cell Games and onward, would have been beaten Cell in any of his forms.

But at this point Trunks is weaker than Vegeta who is much weaker than Goku who is weaker than Gohan, so SSJ2 Trunks won't really be strong enough to overwhelm Cell.

I'd rank them in power like this:
FP Cell: 12
MSSJ Gohan (Enraged): 12
MSSJ Gohan (Hesitating): 10.5
Cell (Suppressed vs Goku): 10.25
Goku: 10
Vegeta: 6
Trunks: 5.5

So SSJ2 Trunks would only be at 11, which is weaker than Full Power Perfect Cell.

But during the altered events of the Cell Games in the original Dragon Ball: Xenoverse game, Perfect Cell himself stated that both Super Saiyan Vegeta and Super Saiyan Future Trunks were evenly matched when they and the Z Fighters were going up against the dreaded Cell Juniors who had been powered up by Dark Magic.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Even though Super Saiyan 2 burns energy like jet fuel when compared to Super Saiyan and recovering that said energy from taking damage from battle is much harder because of the sheer amount of willpower that is needed to simply stay transformed, Future Trunks would have only been experiencing those problems if he was fighting someone just as strong or even stronger than he was in this hypothetical scenario. But any Super Saiyan 2, even a newly awakened one, from the Cell Games and onward, would have been beaten Cell in any of his forms.

But at this point Trunks is weaker than Vegeta who is much weaker than Goku who is weaker than Gohan, so SSJ2 Trunks won't really be strong enough to overwhelm Cell.

I'd rank them in power like this:
FP Cell: 12
MSSJ Gohan (Enraged): 12
MSSJ Gohan (Hesitating): 10.5
Cell (Suppressed vs Goku): 10.25
Goku: 10
Vegeta: 6
Trunks: 5.5

So SSJ2 Trunks would only be at 11, which is weaker than Full Power Perfect Cell.

During the altered events of the Cell Games in Dragon Ball: Xenoverse, Perfect Cell himself stated that both Vegeta and Future Trunks were evenly matched when they and the Z Fighters were going up against the Cell Juniors.

XV isn't canon, but even if he was even with Vegeta his SSJ2 would only be equal to Perfect Cell.

[Steven Bloodriver]

What if the Power Rangers had met Whis before joining the Z Fighters in Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F?

They would become irrelevant immediately.

Who do you mean?

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if the Power Rangers had met Whis before joining the Z Fighters in Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F?

They would become irrelevant immediately.

Who do you mean?

The Power Rangers.

[Steven Bloodriver]

They would become irrelevant immediately.

Who do you mean?

The Power Rangers.

Really? Even after being trained by Whis of all people before joining the Z Warriors against Frieza and his Galactic Army?

[TheUltimateNinja]

Who do you mean?

The Power Rangers.

Really? Even after being trained by Whis of all people before joining the Z Warriors against Frieza and his Galactic Army?

Even Whis can't teach all that much to people who can't even use ki, sure he could teach them the basics and maybe they could take on the bottom rank fodder but besides that they'd be useless.

[Steven Bloodriver]

The Power Rangers.

Really? Even after being trained by Whis of all people before joining the Z Warriors against Frieza and his Galactic Army?

Even Whis can't teach all that much to people who can't even use ki, sure he could teach them the basics and maybe they could take on the bottom rank fodder but besides that they'd be useless.

Whis had taught Vegeta to use and harness Godly Ki, and I seriously doubt none of them would ever learn to tap into their Ki since Jason Lee Scott and Tommy Oliver are prodigies.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Really? Even after being trained by Whis of all people before joining the Z Warriors against Frieza and his Galactic Army?

Even Whis can't teach all that much to people who can't even use ki, sure he could teach them the basics and maybe they could take on the bottom rank fodder but besides that they'd be useless.

Whis had taught Vegeta to use and harness Godly Ki, and I seriously doubt none of them would ever learn to tap into their Ki since Jason Lee Scott and Tommy Oliver are prodigies.

How much time do they have to train? I'm assuming since you said they meet him in the movie they only get a few days, in which time you can only learn basic ki manipulation.

[Steven Bloodriver]

Even Whis can't teach all that much to people who can't even use ki, sure he could teach them the basics and maybe they could take on the bottom rank fodder but besides that they'd be useless.

Whis had taught Vegeta to use and harness Godly Ki, and I seriously doubt none of them would ever learn to tap into their Ki since Jason Lee Scott and Tommy Oliver are prodigies.

How much time do they have to train? I'm assuming since you said they meet him in the movie they only get a few days, in which time you can only learn basic ki manipulation.

Four months like Frieza.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Whis had taught Vegeta to use and harness Godly Ki, and I seriously doubt none of them would ever learn to tap into their Ki since Jason Lee Scott and Tommy Oliver are prodigies.

How much time do they have to train? I'm assuming since you said they meet him in the movie they only get a few days, in which time you can only learn basic ki manipulation.

Four months like Frieza.

Well, with 4 months of Whis' training they should be able to reach at least Piccolo Daimao level so they'd perform kinda decently against the weaker soldiers, but any other human Z fighter can do that too.

[Steven Bloodriver]

How much time do they have to train? I'm assuming since you said they meet him in the movie they only get a few days, in which time you can only learn basic ki manipulation.

Four months like Frieza.

Well, with 4 months of Whis' training they should be able to reach at least Piccolo Daimao level so they'd perform kinda decently against the weaker soldiers, but any other human Z fighter can do that too.

1) How strong do you think the Power Rangers are before they would start their training?

2) What if Present Zamasu had taken Turles' body instead?

[TheUltimateNinja]

Four months like Frieza.

Well, with 4 months of Whis' training they should be able to reach at least Piccolo Daimao level so they'd perform kinda decently against the weaker soldiers, but any other human Z fighter can do that too.

1) How strong do you think the Power Rangers are before they would start their training?

2) What if Present Zamasu had taken Turles' body instead?

1) They'd be higher than the highest level normal humans, so a little below Goku at the start of DB.

2) He would be a joke in terms of power and easily get destroyed.

[Steven Bloodriver]

Well, with 4 months of Whis' training they should be able to reach at least Piccolo Daimao level so they'd perform kinda decently against the weaker soldiers, but any other human Z fighter can do that too.

1) How strong do you think the Power Rangers are before they would start their training?

2) What if Present Zamasu had taken Turles' body instead?

1) They'd be higher than the highest level normal humans, so a little below Goku at the start of DB.

2) He would be a joke in terms of power and easily get destroyed.

1) What if the Green Ranger fought Mr. Satan from the Cell Games then?

2) Also what if Goku Black fought Golden Frieza?

[TheUltimateNinja]

1) How strong do you think the Power Rangers are before they would start their training?

2) What if Present Zamasu had taken Turles' body instead?

1) They'd be higher than the highest level normal humans, so a little below Goku at the start of DB.

2) He would be a joke in terms of power and easily get destroyed.

1) What if the Green Ranger fought Mr. Satan from the Cell Games then?

2) Also what if Goku Black fought Golden Frieza?

1) It's hard to say. Mr. Satan's a very skilled fighter, and Green Ranger's pretty decent too. I'd say it depends on the setting, if they're in a tournament style match with rules and regulations and stuff Satan would take this, in an all out brawl with no rules the Green Ranger could win.

2) If he has SSRose he murders Frieza, if it's before he gains it he gets killed unless he has his Zenkais.

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if Goku lost hope in Gohan and decided to end the fight himself by eating Cell?

[Anime Kitten]

What if Goku didn't kill Freeza at the end of Resurrection 'F'?

[TheUltimateNinja]

These matches should be in the "Versus" Thread, don't you think?

Anyway, what if Goku didn't kill Freeza at the end of Resurrection 'F'?

Frieza would come back and blow up the Earth again while Whis isn't around before scampering off.