The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Sailor Haumea » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:41 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
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Steven Bloodriver wrote: What if you woke up just before Future Trunks (from Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound) crashed through your roof and landed right beside you in bed?
What is your point?

I'm asking a simple question:

What if Piccolo kills Imperfect Cell after Cell finishes his story about his origin?

No Cell Games, of course. And with no Cell Games, Bojack isn't released because King Kai, Bubbles, and Gregory don't die.

What else changes? I assume without Hyperbolic Time Chamber, Broly slaughters them all, right?
1) What would you have done if one of the characters from Dragon Ball Z came into our world?

2) Then following Super Piccolo destroying Imperfect Cell, an insanely jealous Vegeta would have been the next threat to the Earth.
If Future Trunks, I'd warn him of Goku Black.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:43 pm

Sandubadear wrote:What if Piccolo or Muten Roshi used the Mafuba on Beerus? (during BoG)
Then the insane God of Destruction with funky dance moves would know how the Old Kai felt like when the former had sealed him away in the Z Sword! :lol:

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:43 pm

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nickzambuto wrote:[I don't think the SSJ2 to SSJ3 boost is quite as large as the SSJ1 to SSJ2 boost. Just look at how long Vegeta held Boo off for, he put in a beyond valiant effort, and he was dead serious. Goku meanwhile could potentially appeal to Boo's naivety and their shared goofiness and survive by having Boo toy with him, not to mention his enhanced durability with the dead body. It'll be a lot more painful, but I think it's possible for him to take Boo's attention long enough for Trunks to do his thing.

Regardless though, IIRC, Goku left for Otherworld almost immediately after getting back to the Lookout. There was no further training from him, that's when Piccolo picked things up, so even if Goku were to die and vanish from existence, Piccolo could just resume. Then we'd get Gotenks and... Boo absorbs him to beat Gohan, like you said...
I usually go by the SEG multipliers but one thing you need to remember about Vegeta vs Boo is that Toriyama clearly hadn't thought of SS3 at that point so he probably didn't think to have Vegeta get completely stomped like he later is against Kid Boo who's of comparable power to Fat Boo.

I think Goku's survival might depend on if he spams IT like the did with Beerus in the BoG movie, the trouble with this is that Boo can learn moves immediately so if he starts spamming IT to counter Goku then Goku's pretty thoroughly screwed. He also doesn't show the boys how to perform the dance so unless he lets Piccolo read his mind before he leaves to fight Boo, they can't do fusion.

Hence why I think Gohan will ultimately be the one to stomp Boo though I imagine a lot more good guys dying in this scenario before he can do it. Goku could potentially get wiped out of existence entirely here too.
Fat Buu is much weaker than Kid Buu, Goku easily dominated Fat Buu despite holding back and later says he could have killed him if he wanted to, whereas he has a much harder time fighting Kid Buu.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:44 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote: What if you woke up just before Future Trunks (from Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound) crashed through your roof and landed right beside you in bed?
What is your point?

I'm asking a simple question:

What if Piccolo kills Imperfect Cell after Cell finishes his story about his origin?

No Cell Games, of course. And with no Cell Games, Bojack isn't released because King Kai, Bubbles, and Gregory don't die.

What else changes? I assume without Hyperbolic Time Chamber, Broly slaughters them all, right?
1) What would you have done if one of the characters from Dragon Ball Z came into our world?

2) Then following Super Piccolo destroying Imperfect Cell, an insanely jealous Vegeta would have been the next threat to the Earth.
2) Not really, at this point Vegeta would get demolished by Piccolo.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:45 pm

Sailor Haumea wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote: What is your point?

I'm asking a simple question:

What if Piccolo kills Imperfect Cell after Cell finishes his story about his origin?

No Cell Games, of course. And with no Cell Games, Bojack isn't released because King Kai, Bubbles, and Gregory don't die.

What else changes? I assume without Hyperbolic Time Chamber, Broly slaughters them all, right?
1) What would you have done if one of the characters from Dragon Ball Z came into our world?

2) Then following Super Piccolo destroying Imperfect Cell, an insanely jealous Vegeta would have been the next threat to the Earth.
If Future Trunks, I'd warn him of Goku Black.
But he would be stuck in our Universe.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Sailor Haumea » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:46 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote: 1) What would you have done if one of the characters from Dragon Ball Z came into our world?

2) Then following Super Piccolo destroying Imperfect Cell, an insanely jealous Vegeta would have been the next threat to the Earth.
If Future Trunks, I'd warn him of Goku Black.
But he would be stuck in our Universe.
Then have him train me.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Anime Kitten » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:47 pm

What would you do if GT Bulla and Pan both tried to pick a fight with you?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:48 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:What would you do if GT Bulla and Pan both tried to pick a fight with you?
Hey, you question twister! :P

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:49 pm

How long would Goku last in the series if:

1) He had Kaioken from the start

2) He had SSJ from the start

3) He had Grade 2 and Grade 3 from the start

4) He had MSSJ from the start

5) He had SSJ2 from the start

6) He had SSJ3 from the start

7) He had SSJ4 from the start

8) He had SSBlue from the start
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Anime Kitten » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:49 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:Hey, you question twister! :P
Jealous? 8) Also, it technically counts because "What" and "if" are in the question in that order. :mrgreen:
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:50 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:What would you do if GT Bulla and Pan both tried to pick a fight with you?
I would attempt to defuse the situation lest I die, and if things go well try to segue it into a date.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:51 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote:What would you do if GT Bulla and Pan both tried to pick a fight with you?
Hey, you question twister! :P
But if it was me, I would ask them if they could allow me to use the Super Dragon Balls first.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:53 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:Hey, you question twister! :P
Jealous? 8) Also, it technically counts because "What" and "if" are in the question in that order. :mrgreen:
Nah, far from it! :twisted:

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:54 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote:What would you do if GT Bulla and Pan both tried to pick a fight with you?
Hey, you question twister! :P
But if it was me, I would ask them if they could allow me to use the Super Dragon Balls first.
How would you obtain them?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:03 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:Hey, you question twister! :P
Jealous? 8) Also, it technically counts because "What" and "if" are in the question in that order. :mrgreen:
Nah, far from it! :twisted:
1) What if Anime Kitten had said that both GT Bra and Pan would be forced to wear Bulma's Bunny Outfit from Dragon Ball if they would lose in the fight?

2) What if Videl had seen on TV Teen Gohan going Super Saiyan 4 during the Cell Games?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:09 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote: Hey, you question twister! :P
But if it was me, I would ask them if they could allow me to use the Super Dragon Balls first.
How would you obtain them?
By promising myself to become a worthy opponent (and oh, so much more than just that later) to both young ladies who would then comply by forcing both Goku and Vegeta to help me in obtaining the Super Dragon Balls as fast as possible. 8)

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:10 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote: Jealous? 8) Also, it technically counts because "What" and "if" are in the question in that order. :mrgreen:
Nah, far from it! :twisted:
1) What if Anime Kitten had said that both GT Bra and Pan would be forced to wear Bulma's Bunny Outfit from Dragon Ball if they would lose in the fight?

2) What if Videl had seen on TV Teen Gohan going Super Saiyan 4 during the Cell Games?
1) I still wouldn't attempt to fight them since they could both erase me in an instant, I would resort to my earlier strategy of defusing the situation.

2) She would think it's a trick.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:11 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote: But if it was me, I would ask them if they could allow me to use the Super Dragon Balls first.
How would you obtain them?
By promising myself to become a worthy opponent (and oh, so much more than just that later) to both young ladies who would then comply by forcing both Goku and Vegeta to help me in obtaining the Super Dragon Balls as fast as possible. 8)
There's no way that would work, they're not like full blooded saiyans who're always looking for a challenge, in fact Bra doesn't even like to fight.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:42 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
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TheUltimateNinja wrote: How would you obtain them?
By promising myself to become a worthy opponent (and oh, so much more than just that later) to both young ladies who would then comply by forcing both Goku and Vegeta to help me in obtaining the Super Dragon Balls as fast as possible. 8)
There's no way that would work, they're not like full blooded saiyans who're always looking for a challenge, in fact Bra doesn't even like to fight.
Okay, then... Plan B! :thumbup:

Before I would fight them, I go into a hot spring containing a multitude of Lazarus Crystals and the roots of a single wild Senzu Beansprout. The rejuvenation properties of both then instantly revive and strengthen the genes of my dying Human body, evolving me into a Saiyan. In fact, the Zenkai I would gain following my rebirth would make me far superior to even the World Champion, Hercule. Alas, then I would have used my connections, so that I could have borrowed a Turbo Morpher and shifted into turbo, and become the Red Turbo Ranger.

But since I still would have been completely no match for either Lady Bra or Lady Pan, I would have done my absolute best to at least entertain them.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:53 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote: By promising myself to become a worthy opponent (and oh, so much more than just that later) to both young ladies who would then comply by forcing both Goku and Vegeta to help me in obtaining the Super Dragon Balls as fast as possible. 8)
There's no way that would work, they're not like full blooded saiyans who're always looking for a challenge, in fact Bra doesn't even like to fight.
Okay, then... Plan B! :thumbup:

Before I would fight them, I go into a hot spring containing a multitude of Lazarus Crystals and the roots of a single wild Senzu Beansprout. The rejuvenation properties of both then instantly revive and strengthen the genes of my dying Human body, evolving me into a Saiyan. In fact, the Zenkai I would gain following my rebirth would make me far superior to even the World Champion, Hercule. Alas, then I would have used my connections, so that I could have borrowed a Turbo Morpher and shifted into turbo, and become the Red Turbo Ranger.

But since I still would have been completely no match for either Lady Bra or Lady Pan, I would have done my absolute best to at least entertain them.
How on Earth would you evolve into a Saiyan?

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