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Whis receives a call in his staff, while Beerus is drinking from the barrel.Draconic wrote:Why are they going to see Daishinkan? It seems a little abrupt. Did Zeno's message come while they were at Capsule Corp?
I have no idea why people are thinking that? It looks like they could easily skip all the back and forth future/present shenanigans and have everything happen in one or two trips. It would just make it flow much better since nothing was actually gained by the repeated trips that couldn't have been done in two.jplaya2023 wrote:so essentially this chapter is filler with no advancement in story line or plot. what a bummer.
just toto trolling us with dbz kart
Are you kidding? The chapter is 80% about Zamasu and his path to evil. It's essential to the story.jplaya2023 wrote:so essentially this chapter is filler with no advancement in story line or plot. what a bummer.
just toto trolling us with dbz kart
Kaioshin pointing out Kibito as a possible culprit is a nice detail, shows us that Toyotaro knows the characters well. GodTube also looks different, in the anime it was like TV here it looks more like internet. In the last chapter Whis said he should maybe ask the Kaioshin if he knows a suspicious God, I guess he ordered him to Earth from the looks of it.LightBing wrote:Goku and Vegeta in tank tops, that's refreshing. There's a bunch of talk in this chapter, we'll need to wait for translations to see if there's that juicy manga exclusives.
I'm specially curious at the reason of Kaioshin visit, that seems to be a diverging point from the anime. Besides the whole skipping Black going into the past.
(white tank top, black pants vs black tank top, white pants).So no Black in this chapter after all?Grimlock wrote:...it ends with Goku meeting Daishinkan.
It's funny how people totally miss the point of criticizing filler. It has nothing to do with the existence of filler itself, but rather the quality.Pannaliciour wrote:Its funny how people love these "filler" scenes in the manga but completely hate in the anime. People be like: wow toei is messing up Super really bad. This isn't Akira's idea. Beerus and driving cars with humans?? Just relaxt people and enjoy both the product.
This has to literally be the oddest take on this I've seen. I won't comment because I haven't seen the later chapter yet but you seem to be implying a promotional manga which tells the story different is worthless as art unto itself unless it specifically precedes the anime for spoiler reasons..? Why can't the manga just be enjoyable unto itself. Such a bizarre comment.GodVegetto91 wrote:This chapter was absolutly worthless. The plot is soooo far behind.. We haven't even seen Omni-King yet. At this point, the Manga is only there for the lols, to make money and for people to enjoy Toyotaro's take on it. If they were smart.. They'd do the same as they did with the new U6 arc back then, having the manga be on top of the plot, MAKING IT RELEVANT again!
At least then we have new spoilers, allowing us to get a sneak peak in the future. It was way better on all levels, for all of us. 1. It makes the manga relevent, and worthy 2. It gives us a sneak peak and isn't just rehashed material in a slightly different way 3. We were actually looking forward to the manga each month.
Going back to their old roots by having the anime be on top was the worst mistake ever! And they know it!
The manga is pointless if it doesn't move ahead of the anime. Truly the living definition of the word "pointless".
I'm on the complete opposite side here; why didn't the anime include that race? Would have been hilarous!GodVegetto91 wrote:This chapter was absolutly worthless. The plot is soooo far behind.. We haven't even seen Omni-King yet. At this point, the Manga is only there for the lols, to make money and for people to enjoy Toyotaro's take on it. If they were smart.. They'd do the same as they did with the new U6 arc back then, having the manga be on top of the plot, MAKING IT RELEVANT again!
At least then we have new spoilers, allowing us to get a sneak peak in the future. It was way better on all levels, for all of us. 1. It makes the manga relevent, and worthy 2. It gives us a sneak peak and isn't just rehashed material in a slightly different way 3. We were actually looking forward to the manga each month.
Going back to their old roots by having the anime be on top was the worst mistake ever! And they know it!
The manga is pointless if it doesn't move ahead of the anime. Truly the living definition of the word "pointless".
We start off with Gowase and Zamasu on Planet Babari. Gowasu reveals Time Rings are rarely used. The last instance was 400 years before he was even a Kaioshin student. Zamasu seems to have no experience with them, however he is actually aware of Time Rings and the concept of Parallel Worlds/Timelines here.
Rules for Time Rings are the same as the anime. They allow the user to travel to the future and back to the present. It's impossible to travel to the past; such actions are forbidden.
There shouldn't be any doubt at this point, but we get outright confirmation that timeline splits affect all the universes, not just the one it happens in. Gowasu explains that the first parallel world, and the resulting Time Ring, was created via a time machine made by a human/mortal from an advanced civilization in Universe 12. Zamasu notes that there are 4 Time Rings on the top row, meaning there are 4 parallel worlds. Gowasu only remembers 3 when he last checked: "Could it be that someone created another world recently?"
Unfortunately, the timeline/parallel world situation still isn't perfectly clear beyond the first one being created by Universe 12. The latest one does seem to be for Trunks, but that's still not actually stated. Which leaves the fact that Cell altered history at an earlier point, and thus should have created one too, in limbo. I suppose the two middle rings could be Trunks and Cell, while the last one is the Black!Zamasu ring in the manga? It's really still a waiting game to find out for sure.
Potara stuff, fusion joke, 1000 years. Stuff we all know. Zamasu is much more forthright with his hate of mortals and Gowasu is, thankfully, still not blind to it. When the Babarian attacks, Gowasu's request that they flee Babari. Zamasu ignores him. He then proceeds to try 3 more times to get Zamasu to leave and stop what he's doing, but Zamasu continues to ignore him. He's dead set on killing the "useless trash". When they return to the Universe 10 Kaioshin Realm, they have what felt like a more meaningful discussion about Zamasu's actions than the anime did. (Also, Zamasu doesn't really address Gowasu by name in the manga, just Kaioshin-sama.)
Dragon Kart time at Capsule Corp. Not much to say here, as the visuals are pretty self explanatory. The controller Beerus broke after losing at the game was his third one though.
We don't get Trunks feeling quite so useless as in the anime. Future Trunks is happy he's able to relax a bit by playing games. Vegeta and Goku say not to worry, they'll take care of Black and restore peace for him. This upsets Trunks a little that he can't handle it himself. Vegeta also says to make sure Future Trunks doesn't get in their way. So when Trunks wakes up, he's to come to the gravity room for training.
The Godtube stuff is switched. Gowasu walks in on Zamasu searching for Goku and asks if he's quitting his training to be a Godtuber. Gowasu notices the video is the Hakaishin Invitational from last arc and notes he wanted to watch that. Gowasu ask why Zamasu is searching for "that guy who's stronger than a god". Zamasu defects by pointing out even Zeno-sama was attending. Gowasu is surprised the event is more important than he had thought. We switch back to Capsule Corp after the same inquisition into the Super Dragon Balls. (I was curious if Zamasu knew about Zeno. Question answered. Also, there's currently no paradox. Zamasu is on a path of interest in Goku without having met him yet, and Black hasn't caused the heroes to gain an interest in Zamasu. So this is fully possible in the original version of the timeline without Trunks showing up.)
The next morning, Beerus is still upset that he kept losing at the game. He orders a whole barrel of his namesake (beer). Kaioshin appears (without Kibito, suggesting he can use the Kai Kai in the manga too?), having been summoned by Beerus about the evil god investigation.
The Hakaishin asks if there are any gods with evil ideas, like hating mortals. After thinking about Kibito freaking out about mortals in the Kaioshin Realm during the Boo Arc, Kaioshin suggests that he was worried about his attitude. Beerus isn't surprised: "That bastard has a suspicious face." However Goku doesn't think it's likely. Still, they prepare to go meet with him.
Before they can leave, Whis gets a call. Instead of Zeno, like in the anime, it's the Dai Shinkan/Grand Priest. Beerus spits out his beer all over Kaioshin when Whis reveals that Goku has been summoned by Zeno. Goku wants to wait, but Beerus tells him to go now. The rest is the same as the anime: Whis would take 2 days, Kaioshin can teleport them. Goku's clothes aren't formal, don't talk about Black or time travel. Only difference worth mentioning at this point is that Beerus tells Kaioshin directly not to die at Zeno's. Guess that means he's not linked to the Elder Kaioshin, for whatever reason.
What an ignorant statement. You're wrong. There's no "fact of the matter". It's all opinion based. I don't mind the manga taking time to build story and have some fun moments in it. And I don't have to be an "absolute manga freak" to enjoy it. I barely even read manga, grew up anime-based, and I have absolutely no problem with this chapter.GodVegetto91 wrote:Well it's no problem if you're an absolute manga freak. And you just enjoy it for the sake of it. But if you're like me, and a lot of people who grew up with the anime, a manga only serves it's purpose if it includes spoilers.
But the fact of the matter is, it was a whole lot better back in the day when we got out of the freeza arc straight into the whole U6 stuff.
Wow, what? You do know that people actually liking s manga is how anime typically get made in the first place and if not for these "manga freaks" liking the Dragonball series you likely would have never gotten an anime at all. These just seems unbelievably ignorant.GodVegetto91 wrote:Well it's no problem if you're an absolute manga freak. And you just enjoy it for the sake of it. But if you're like me, and a lot of people who grew up with the anime, a manga only serves it's purpose if it includes spoilers.
But the fact of the matter is, it was a whole lot better back in the day when we got out of the freeza arc straight into the whole U6 stuff.
