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Considering we may never get a name for "Super Trunks" I came up with an idea. The form is a combination of regular yellow mortal ki and blue god ki.
dem·i·god
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noun
a being with partial or lesser divine status, such as a minor deity, the offspring of a god and a mortal, or a mortal raised to divine rank.
I was putting the range of this form at approximately SSG Goku, by just breaking the godly tier. I feel as though the name Super Saiyan Demigod fits this form well.
What do you guys think?
dem·i·god
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noun
a being with partial or lesser divine status, such as a minor deity, the offspring of a god and a mortal, or a mortal raised to divine rank.
I was putting the range of this form at approximately SSG Goku, by just breaking the godly tier. I feel as though the name Super Saiyan Demigod fits this form well.
What do you guys think?
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What about Semi-Super Saiya-jin Blue? It's one more S for the acronym, ha ha. I don't dislike your idea, but Goku was only a God with SSJG, and demi-God gives the impression that SSJB has another lineage.
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Semi seems to imply it's weaker than SSJB which its far stronger.Desassina wrote:What about Semi-Super Saiya-jin Blue? It's one more S for the acronym, ha ha. I don't dislike your idea, but Goku was only a God with SSJG, and demi-God gives the impression that SSJB has another lineage.
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Wait, you really think so? I never got the impression that it was stronger than SSB ... I saw it as SSG Goku level because he seems to be on the Godly Level, but not all the way to SSB, which is 100% God Ki utilization.
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False Super Saiyan God. it's almost reminiscent of Goku's power up in Lord Slug, don't you think?
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It definitely makes me think a bit of Goku's 'false Super Saiyan' from DBZ movie 4, yeah. At the same time though, it also seems to share elements with Vegeta's 'MY BULMA' rage boost in how it's activated, as well as looking at least a little bit like Goku's use of Kaioken on top of Super Saiyan Blue - whereas Goku was in his SSB form complete with that aura and the Kaioken aura wrapped around that, Trunks is in his Super Saiyan form with that aura, but closely wrapped around his body within that is what looks to be a similar aura as what a Super Saiyan Blue has.
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So yeah, little hard to figure out what exactly is going on with this new 'form', if it is one at all. My best guess and personal bet though is that he did take in some of the 'god' type ki that Vegeta now has during some of their sparring sessions together. While it's not enough to fully give him the Super Saiyan Blue form, it may have been enough to give him quite a bit more power to tap into at least when overcome with rage. So in that vein, I'm actually kind of liking the 'Super Saiyan Demigod' name. Beerus' design is already channeling Egyptian mythology a bit, so why not have a name for a form channel a bit of Greek/Roman mythology (though they're not the only mythology with the demigod term) as well?
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[/spoiler]So yeah, little hard to figure out what exactly is going on with this new 'form', if it is one at all. My best guess and personal bet though is that he did take in some of the 'god' type ki that Vegeta now has during some of their sparring sessions together. While it's not enough to fully give him the Super Saiyan Blue form, it may have been enough to give him quite a bit more power to tap into at least when overcome with rage. So in that vein, I'm actually kind of liking the 'Super Saiyan Demigod' name. Beerus' design is already channeling Egyptian mythology a bit, so why not have a name for a form channel a bit of Greek/Roman mythology (though they're not the only mythology with the demigod term) as well?
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Re: Name Idea for Super Trunks ...
I've been calling it False Super Saiyan Blue. Just like in Lord Slug, it's a super rage boosted power up that taps into a higher transformation's power without fully transforming.
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I'd just keep it simple and call him Mutated SSJ2 Future Trunks
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I chose not to call it that because I found it to beyond just a mutation. It seems to access god ki.Lord Beerus wrote:I'd just keep it simple and call him Mutated SSJ2 Future Trunks
I called 'My Bulma' Vegeta a SS2 Mutation. It's not a true SS4, nor is it a SS2 Grade 2 because it is beyond SS3.
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Nothing indicates that Future Trunks' new form can access God ki.ChiefWamsutta wrote:I chose not to call it that because I found it to beyond just a mutation. It seems to access god ki.Lord Beerus wrote:I'd just keep it simple and call him Mutated SSJ2 Future Trunks
I called 'My Bulma' Vegeta a SS2 Mutation. It's not a true SS4, nor is it a SS2 Grade 2 because it is beyond SS3.
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What's wrong with "Super Trunks"?
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They always come off or fall apart when you want to go super swimming.Marco Polo wrote:What's wrong with "Super Trunks"?
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What do you mean? Future Trunks' aura was a mixture of yellow mortal ki and blue godly ki. Ever since RoF, blue ki for a Saiyan implies godly ki.Lord Beerus wrote: Nothing indicates that Future Trunks' new form can access God ki.
(One of the main reasons for Zamasu hating Goku was because he saw him "clad in godly ki" as an SSB fighting Hit on the GodTube)
He still had yellow hair meaning this transformation is something like a partial SSB. The aura indicates the godly ki.
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Not to mention that for at least one moment there, the blue part of Trunks' aura has the same little particles in it that Super Saiyan Blue does. It's not definitive proof, but it does lead one to think there could be some relation.
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What? The blue ki/aura indicates nothing. The only reason that Goku and Vegeta have Super Saiyan Blue to even begin with is because they mixed the power of Super Saiyan God with Super Saiyan. It not as if when they tap into Godly ki they suddenly have a blue aura. If that were the case, then when Goku took on Final Form Frost and he transformed into a Super Saiyan, he should have had a blue aura surrounding him.ChiefWamsutta wrote:What do you mean? Future Trunks' aura was a mixture of yellow mortal ki and blue godly ki. Ever since RoF, blue ki for a Saiyan implies godly ki.Lord Beerus wrote: Nothing indicates that Future Trunks' new form can access God ki.
(One of the main reasons for Zamasu hating Goku was because he saw him "clad in godly ki" as an SSB fighting Hit on the GodTube)
He still had yellow hair meaning this transformation is something like a partial SSB. The aura indicates the godly ki.
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Vegeta never had access to the power of Super Saiyan God. The only possible time that Goku and Vegeta learned SSB is in Whis' staff. Right before they entered, they learned about blue ki in a subtle way when they punched their hands together. Vegeta is inside the staff and mentions that it is what God Ki feels like. NOT Super Saiyan God ki.Lord Beerus wrote: What? The blue ki/aura indicates nothing. The only reason that Goku and Vegeta have Super Saiyan Blue to even begin with is because they mixed the power of Super Saiyan God with Super Saiyan. It not as if when they tap into Godly ki they suddenly have a blue aura. If that were the case, then when Goku took on Final Form Frost and he transformed into a Super Saiyan, he should have had a blue aura surrounding him.
What do you mean? When they tap into godly ki they DO get a blue aura. The ONLY time they use godly ki is as SSB. The fight with Frost was Goku using the Super Saiyan 1 Grade 4 form. So many people were confused when the episode aired as to why they could still use SS1. Why the hair was yellow and not blue. Toei and Toriyama made the decision after redoing the movies as arcs that SS1, SS2, and SS3 can still be accessed by Goku and Vegeta. They made it very clear in the tournament the differences between using SS1 and SSB for both Goku and Vegeta.
Regardless, why would the team at Toei put blue ki that looks close to SSB ki in Trunks' aura? What would be the reason for that if it didn't indicate anything, as you say?
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How about Verge Super Saiyan?ChiefWamsutta wrote:Considering we may never get a name for "Super Trunks" I came up with an idea. The form is a combination of regular yellow mortal ki and blue god ki.
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a being with partial or lesser divine status, such as a minor deity, the offspring of a god and a mortal, or a mortal raised to divine rank.
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What do you guys think?
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It's never stated as "blue ki". Not once. Whis' training itself is very vague. All they were taught about is not leaking their ki and controlling it to level where they could raise their strength greatly. That's it. Then they were sent into a Whis' staff which seemed to have an environment that simulated God ki and they trained in there. After that, there is no further elaboration that you attain a blue aura when you tap into God ki. Honestly, it's the writers of Super that royally fucked up on this occasion because there is no consistency on how Super Saiyan Blue is attained or God ki even works. Goku's explanation to Freeza of how he obtained Super Saiyan Blue outright contradicts what Vegeta went through. Goku outright states when he became a Super Saiyan Blue, that the form was the result of a “Saiyan who’s a Super Saiyan with the power of Super Saiyan God”. Then when Vegeta attains the form, Goku explains that he just trained to achieve Super Saiyan Blue.ChiefWamsutta wrote:Vegeta never had access to the power of Super Saiyan God. The only possible time that Goku and Vegeta learned SSB is in Whis' staff. Right before they entered, they learned about blue ki in a subtle way when they punched their hands together. Vegeta is inside the staff and mentions that it is what God Ki feels like. NOT Super Saiyan God ki.Lord Beerus wrote: What? The blue ki/aura indicates nothing. The only reason that Goku and Vegeta have Super Saiyan Blue to even begin with is because they mixed the power of Super Saiyan God with Super Saiyan. It not as if when they tap into Godly ki they suddenly have a blue aura. If that were the case, then when Goku took on Final Form Frost and he transformed into a Super Saiyan, he should have had a blue aura surrounding him.
What do you mean? When they tap into godly ki they DO get a blue aura. The ONLY time they use godly ki is as SSB. The fight with Frost was Goku using the Super Saiyan 1 Grade 4 form. So many people were confused when the episode aired as to why they could still use SS1. Why the hair was yellow and not blue. Toei and Toriyama made the decision after redoing the movies as arcs that SS1, SS2, and SS3 can still be accessed by Goku and Vegeta. They made it very clear in the tournament the differences between using SS1 and SSB for both Goku and Vegeta.
Regardless, why would the team at Toei put blue ki that looks close to SSB ki in Trunks' aura? What would be the reason for that if it didn't indicate anything, as you say?
The anime seriously treads on its own toes on this regard because you either have to believe that Goku lost his Godly ki after fighting Beerus, which is never implied, and gained it back after training in Whis' staff or that Goku was full when explaining how he achieved Super Saiyan Blue. Hell, the excuse with Whis staff actually shoots itself in the foot when Vegeta and Goku can sense the Godly ki in the dimension that Whis' staff take them to. And it's already established that mortals can't sense Godly ki. So Goku definitely retained the power of Super Saiyan God after the Battle Of Gods arc and Vegeta obviously must have gained accessed and tapped into Godly ki prior to that. But where is the indication of when Vegeta did that? It all makes no sense. If they were truly tapping into God ki they should have had a blue aura when either fighting each other, fighting Whis together and while they were in Whis' staff. But they didn't on any of those occasions.
And you also have to remember, Goku absorbed and retained the power of Super Super God, which has Godly Ki, during the climax of his battle with Beerus in the Battle Of Gods arc, so bay all means he have had a blue aura surrounding his when was a Super Saiyan fighting Beerus because there is no way in hell that Goku did not tap into Godly ki when was Super Saiyan and fighting Beerus. but he didn't. And what about when Raging SS2J Vegeta's assault pushed Beerus to use 10% of his power. Where was Vegeta's blue aura on that occasion? Because it was already established that mortal couldn't do shit to harm Godly ki users, and yet Beerus had to use some his power to tank was Raging SS2J Vegeta threw at him. So either became monstrously strong without any real explanation, or Beerus is much weaker than we thought, or Godly is really not that different to mortal ki.
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