kinisking wrote:
Wait. How will trunks and the others fight?
See, what they would do is somehow glue both Black and Zamasu together using the superglue Bulma gave to Trunks to fix the pot. However, after failing to glue the pot together, they'll just glue the bad guys together. Unfortunately this will bring about them merging but that's what super glue is supposed to do in the first place am i right?
good one.
But I was quoting the summary. It sounds like he goes to the past or this is present trunks. Capsule corporation and more than one fighter. I don't think it's referencing goku and vegeta
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I made a bet with Alee9977 that Vegeta won't be beaten quickly by an opponent. If I lose, I switch my avatar to Vegeta getting beat by hit. If I win, he switches it to Vegeta holding Black by his hair. This will last a month.
vashter wrote:Appearly goku and vegeta hasn't fused on next ep, the preview looking it vegetio but it not, someone just found poof for it on youtube saying it wasn't him it still goku fighting so there still a hope that gogeta may appear... by video I mean DBH
They fuse in the trailer, and Goku starts fighting them him immediately. That probably means he'll try to fight them and fail, if it means anything in this instance. Pardon, trying to write a coherent post after getting up about an hour earlier than I normally do.
I think what the real question here is now that we have Zamasu Black as a thing. What happens to the immortality does it continue to be or does it go away because they fused thus technically the being known as Zamasu the individual no longer exist.
THEGOKU wrote:I think what the real question here is now that we have Zamasu Black as a thing. What happens to the immortality does it continue to be or does it go away because they fused thus technically the being known as Zamasu the individual no longer exist.
Vegetto didn't have a halo and Vegeta was dead at the time. It might cancel the immortality, it's one of the options to defeat him, together with the Mafuba.
THEGOKU wrote:I think what the real question here is now that we have Zamasu Black as a thing. What happens to the immortality does it continue to be or does it go away because they fused thus technically the being known as Zamasu the individual no longer exist.
Vegetto didn't have a halo and Vegeta was dead at the time. It might cancel the immortality, it's one of the options to defeat him, together with the Mafuba.
Alternatively, Vegetto not having a halo could be because Goku's life force got shared with Vegeta, so it's possible the immortality passes over too. Or it could not like you said which they might do to make the climax a big fusion vs fusion fight and not Goku sealing him in a jar.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
THEGOKU wrote:I think what the real question here is now that we have Zamasu Black as a thing. What happens to the immortality does it continue to be or does it go away because they fused thus technically the being known as Zamasu the individual no longer exist.
Vegetto didn't have a halo and Vegeta was dead at the time. It might cancel the immortality, it's one of the options to defeat him, together with the Mafuba.
Alternatively, Vegetto not having a halo could be because Goku's life force got shared with Vegeta, so it's possible the immortality passes over too. Or it could not like you said which they might do to make the climax a big fusion vs fusion fight and not Goku sealing him in a jar.
I would prefer it to be that way and Zamasu Black miscalculating having immortality still and losing the battle that way. Him getting sealed is still cool but doesn't really solve anything if they never beat him all it takes is the Jar to break or something like with King Piccolo.
vashter wrote:Appearly goku and vegeta hasn't fused on next ep, the preview looking it vegetio but it not, someone just found poof for it on youtube saying it wasn't him it still goku fighting so there still a hope that gogeta may appear... by video I mean DBH
They fuse in the trailer, and Goku starts fighting them him immediately. That probably means he'll try to fight them and fail, if it means anything in this instance. Pardon, trying to write a coherent post after getting up about an hour earlier than I normally do.
Usually, the DBH openings don't mean much, they had SSB Goku fight (evenly!) First Form Frost for example.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Usually, the DBH openings don't mean much, they had SSB Goku fight (evenly!) First Form Frost for example.
Well yeah, but I'd say ignoring Heroes at this point is kinda "eh". They revealed Super Saiyan God before the actual movie's launch, teased Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (after a "spoiler" saying that Movie 15 wouldn't have a new transformation), revealed that Goku Black had only one Potara, revealed Zamasu and Goku Black weren't the same person (literally, I mean), revealed a Babariseijin before their actual debut. What more do you want to take Heroes seriously?
Of course, using Heroes for stuff like "Goku will use Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan against Frost" is not the way, but what Heroes does is marketing, they don't have to follow what appears in the series, but in the sense of appearance and suggesting what something might be? I'm pretty sure Heroes has given more than enough reasons to be believed.
They also had Base Goku fighting Black which never happened wouldnt be surprised if that was the case.
If Vegeta and Trunks fuses I wonder how their aura and hair color would be like since Trunks' new form isnt exactly SSJB (maybe a mix of gold with blue hair like Trunks' aura)
I'd actually prefer the Goku from the paradox timeline to return and kick Black's ass, what he did really pisses me off up until now, surprised that Goku let Vegeta take Black despite the anger he showed on ep 61.
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I wouldn't like if learning Mafuba ultimately had no purpose, I really want Zamasu to be sealed in that jar, leaving open the possibility of his return in future arcs, maybe... I don't want Zamasu to die, yet
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
I watched the Heroes stream a while ago, and they had Nozawa and Horikawa discussing upcoming Super stuff. I couldn't understand a lick of it, but I was given info to translate by someone who could. According to the stream info:
-Merged Zamasu isn't a dual voice; no Nozawa.
-Goku & Vegeta fusion voice work is complete.
-Mafuba jar is vital to saving the future.
I assume we'll find our first stage of confirmation this week after Zamasu fuses.
Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
My personal "canon" and BP list. (Coming Soon)
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:-Goku & Vegeta fusion voice work is complete.
-Mafuba jar is vital to saving the future.
- Vegetto confirmed. There'd be no reason to use Gogeta at this point, with the Potara in play. That's exciting, and also intriguing. Hopefully his design is good.
- Knew it.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I watched the Heroes stream a while ago, and they had Nozawa and Horikawa discussing upcoming Super stuff. I couldn't understand a lick of it, but I was given info to translate by someone who could. According to the stream info:
-Merged Zamasu isn't a dual voice; no Nozawa.
-Goku & Vegeta fusion voice work is complete.
-Mafuba jar is vital to saving the future.
I assume we'll find our first stage of confirmation this week after Zamasu fuses.
Then the immortality must still be in affect if they still need the jar. I would have liked to hear a dual voice though for Zamasu Black (I Hope that is his name).
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I watched the Heroes stream a while ago, and they had Nozawa and Horikawa discussing upcoming Super stuff. I couldn't understand a lick of it, but I was given info to translate by someone who could. According to the stream info:
-Merged Zamasu isn't a dual voice; no Nozawa.
-Goku & Vegeta fusion voice work is complete.
-Mafuba jar is vital to saving the future.
I assume we'll find our first stage of confirmation this week after Zamasu fuses.
Then the immortality must still be in affect if they still need the jar. I would have liked to hear a dual voice though for Zamasu Black (I Hope that is his name).
"Goku Black" was only used because no one know who he actually was, and it only continues to exist so we can differentiate between Present and Future Zamasu conveniently. With the two fused, there's no further reason to call them anything other than Zamasu, especially when the name "Goku Black" was a placeholder to begin with.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I watched the Heroes stream a while ago, and they had Nozawa and Horikawa discussing upcoming Super stuff. I couldn't understand a lick of it, but I was given info to translate by someone who could. According to the stream info:
-Merged Zamasu isn't a dual voice; no Nozawa.
-Goku & Vegeta fusion voice work is complete.
-Mafuba jar is vital to saving the future.
I assume we'll find our first stage of confirmation this week after Zamasu fuses.
Also of note, Toriyama's next Super arc will supposedly be revealed at Jump Festa this year, December 7-8.
Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
My personal "canon" and BP list. (Coming Soon)
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Also of note, Toriyama's next Super arc will supposedly be revealed at Jump Festa this year, December 7-8.
So it's confirmed that it will be written or at least the main plot points will be by him? Marking that date in my calendar, very curious for what comes next.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
Also of note, Toriyama's next Super arc will supposedly be revealed at Jump Festa this year, December 7-8.
I figured it'd be revealed in December.
So it will probably start in January and end somewhere in May, June or July. I'm guessing we'll be getting two arcs a year.
good one. 
