The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[TheUltimateNinja]

Piccolo only lost hope after he saw Buu kick Gotenks' ass, before that he actually thought Gotenks may win. Plus, he thought Gotenks couldn't transform as he says, "Oh, he can transform even after fusing?" when Gotenks goes SSJ so he was clearly thinking of Gotenks' base power.

That's what I'm saying. Piccolo lost hope after Boo started kicking Gotenks' butt and seemingly can't turn into Super Saiyan. Which is why he was surprised later when Gotenks transformed into Super Saiyan.

But looking back at the Strength Checker. It seems that Piccolo realized that Base Gotenks wouldn't win against Boo when his attacks aren't doing anything, not when Gotenks was getting his ass kicked. So the implication is Piccolo thought Gotenks might win when they fused, but then realized they won't win when Gotenks' attack aren't doing anything.

So either you think SS Gotenks (Pre RoSaT) < Base Gotenks (Post RoSaT), or you could just think Piccolo was just being desperate. After all, he also thought that Super Saiyan Gotenks might possibly win against Evil Boo, and then admitted later that Gotenks can't. Or you could think both, I don't really mind Base Gotenks being that strong.

I do, though, as I've always preferred more conservative power levels and with later material showing Goku surpassing Gotenks' level, it's much easier to accept the gap Goku had to cover not being that large than Goku getting hundreds or even thousands of times stronger for no reason.

[Zamasu55]

1) Great Namek Lord Slug (Youth Restored) vs. Meta-Cooler Core.

2) Golden Great Ape Little Goku (GT) vs. Janemba.

3) Green Ranger (Tommy Oliver) vs. Shula.

1. Metal Cooler one-shots.

2. Ssj GT Goku (Baby saga) is more than enough to stomp him.

3. Uhm...

[Zamasu55]

Here's four:

Ultimate Buu* vs. Super Janemba
Ultimate Buu vs. Hirudegarn
Ultimate Buu vs. Beerus
Ultimate Buu vs. Golden Frieza

*Also called Buuhan.

1. Super Janemba is in between Super Buu and Ultimate Gohan. So, he stands no chance against Buuhan.

2. Hirudegarn was on par with Ssj3 Goku, this is even a more one-sided match.

3. Are you serious?

4. First form Frieza (ROF) is more than enough.

[Steven Bloodriver]

Fair enough. From what I had seen of the series, most of the characters seemed like Batman tier at the most. What feats place the Rangers at Goku's level of strength? They would have to be at least small building level.

I once saw a Power Ranger lift a car and throw it with much less difficulty than what Goku did to Bulma's car from the beginning of Dragon Ball.

Are the Power Rangers bullet proof and is their overall durability, strength, speed, etc. all comparable to each other? Have any of the Rangers been able to replicate something close or above this level of strength:

[spoiler][/spoiler]

All of the Power Rangers have comparable power to each other when morphed. But each generation of them have very different powers and skills to call upon in battle. Even so, all of them while in their normal Human forms before morphing, would be on par or even stronger than Videl was before she had been trained by Gohan, but when morphed into a Power Ranger; their very own shortcomings in durability, strength, speed, and so on, would be overall immensely heightened to even beyond the point of normal Superhuman levels Yamcha had displayed when he had first fought Goku as the morphing into their Ranger Form would let them dominate someone even as strong as Spopovich and Yamu before and after they became servants to Babidi.

[Steven Bloodriver]

None of the Power Rangers are that weak, Tommy Oliver as the Green Ranger would be able to fight on par with Goku from the beginning of Dragon Ball. Absolutely dominate the hell out of the Yamcha from the 21st World Martial Arts Tournament. And be able to do a far better job than what Krillin did against Jackie Chun if Tommy Oliver had been able to compete with his Green Power Ranger power.

Sorry, didn't see you had edited this. 21st Budokai Yamcha should be stronger than first appearance Goku considering he entered the tournament knowing an improved Goku would be entering and 21st Budokai Krillin is also far, far beyond first appearance Goku, but I get your meaning. In short, if Tommy is a match for first appearance Goku, he'd be vastly outmatched by the any of the main cast during the the 21st Budokai.

Only possibly Kid Goku and Jackie Chun from the 21st Budokai era would gave a Power Ranger an actual challenge as they (the Rangers themselves) would be far above the likes of Yamcha, Krillin, and especially Mr. Satan from also of that era.

But anyone capable of destroying a planet effortlessly like Vegeta during the Saiyan Saga would be too much for the Power Rangers to handle alone...

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) TheUltimateNinja (armed only with a basket) vs. Goku Black (Future Trunks Saga).

2) Masked Saiyan vs. Golden Frieza and 10 billion Meta-Coolers.

3) Alruneia (armed with only a mirror) vs. Super Saiyan Vegeta (Androids Saga).

4) Old King Piccolo (with weighted cape) vs. Mr. Satan (Cell Games Saga).

[Angelus]

4) Old King Piccolo (with weighted cape) vs. Mr. Satan (Cell Games Saga).

LOL! Old King Piccolo one-shots. Mr. Satan can even get killed by a handgun shot, much more King Piccolo, young or old


Buutenks VS Ultimate/Mystic Gohan + Tien Potara Fusion
[No fusion time limit. No Tribeam hax. No candybeam or any more absorbing]

[Zamasu55]

1) TheUltimateNinja (armed only with a basket) vs. Goku Black (Future Trunks Saga).

2) Masked Saiyan vs. Golden Frieza and 10 billion Meta-Coolers.

3) Alruneia (armed with only a mirror) vs. Super Saiyan Vegeta (Androids Saga).

4) Old King Piccolo (with weighted cape) vs. Mr. Satan (Cell Games Saga).

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2. The Metal Coolers are useless. Time Breaker Bardock smashes Frieza into pieces.
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4. Mr. Satan would lose to Kid Goku (Beginning od Dragon Ball).

[Zamasu55]

4) Old King Piccolo (with weighted cape) vs. Mr. Satan (Cell Games Saga).

Buutenks VS Ultimate/Mystic Gohan + Tien Potara Fusion
[No fusion time limit. No Tribeam hax. No candybeam or any more absorbing]

Tien is absolutely useless here. Buutenks stomps.

[TheUltimateNinja]

4) Old King Piccolo (with weighted cape) vs. Mr. Satan (Cell Games Saga).

LOL! Old King Piccolo one-shots. Mr. Satan can even get killed by a handgun shot, much more King Piccolo, young or old


Buutenks VS Ultimate/Mystic Gohan + Tien Potara Fusion
[No fusion time limit. No Tribeam hax. No candybeam or any more absorbing]

Buutenks wrecks Tenhan.

None of the Power Rangers are that weak, Tommy Oliver as the Green Ranger would be able to fight on par with Goku from the beginning of Dragon Ball. Absolutely dominate the hell out of the Yamcha from the 21st World Martial Arts Tournament. And be able to do a far better job than what Krillin did against Jackie Chun if Tommy Oliver had been able to compete with his Green Power Ranger power.

Sorry, didn't see you had edited this. 21st Budokai Yamcha should be stronger than first appearance Goku considering he entered the tournament knowing an improved Goku would be entering and 21st Budokai Krillin is also far, far beyond first appearance Goku, but I get your meaning. In short, if Tommy is a match for first appearance Goku, he'd be vastly outmatched by the any of the main cast during the the 21st Budokai.

Only possibly Kid Goku and Jackie Chun from the 21st Budokai era would gave a Power Ranger an actual challenge as they (the Rangers themselves) would be far above the likes of Yamcha, Krillin, and especially Mr. Satan from also of that era.

But anyone capable of destroying a planet effortlessly like Vegeta during the Saiyan Saga would be too much for the Power Rangers to handle alone...

Roshi was already able to blow up the moon and move at massively hypersonic speeds in the 21st Budokai, at this point even Krillin could wreck all 5 rangers at the same time. You should go for weaker dudes.

Here's four:

Ultimate Buu* vs. Super Janemba
Ultimate Buu vs. Hirudegarn
Ultimate Buu vs. Beerus
Ultimate Buu vs. Golden Frieza

*Also called Buuhan.

1. Super Janemba is in between Super Buu and Ultimate Gohan. So, he stands no chance against Buuhan.

2. Hirudegarn was on par with Ssj3 Goku, this is even a more one-sided match.

3. Are you serious?

4. First form Frieza (ROF) is more than enough.

1. Janemba is said to be above Hirudegarn who wrecked Ultimate Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks with ease, plus Janemba has hax, he should take this.

2. Hirudegarn crushed Ultimate Gohan, but Buuhan is even more powerful plus he has regen and stuff so Buu wins.

3. Beerus one-shots.

4. Frieza one-shots.

[Khin]

I do, though, as I've always preferred more conservative power levels and with later material showing Goku surpassing Gotenks' level, it's much easier to accept the gap Goku had to cover not being that large than Goku getting hundreds or even thousands of times stronger for no reason.

If you're referring to Battle of Gods. Most of it's stuff was handled by Toei, where Goku was already shown to be stronger than Ultimate Gohan and Gotenks in the Majin Boo Arc. Toei tends to have their character got massive power-ups for no reason, take GT and Boo Arc for example, so Goku getting hundreds of times stronger won't be a much of a surprise.

Not to mention It's basically impossible to have a Battle Power list that have SS3 Goku stronger than Ultimate Gohan while keeping him below Namek Freeza in base, that's why I recommend not to take battle power/power levels seriously that much after the Freeza Arc.

[Alruneia]

3) Alruneia (armed with only a mirror) vs. Super Saiyan Vegeta (Androids Saga).

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Judging from TFS Vegeta, maybe I can point the mirror at him, which would stop him in his tracks as he wishes to take a look at himself.

[Steven Bloodriver]

3) Alruneia (armed with only a mirror) vs. Super Saiyan Vegeta (Androids Saga).

boi
Judging from TFS Vegeta, maybe I can point the mirror at him, which would stop him in his tracks as he wishes to take a look at himself.

1) Alruneia vs. Android 17. (In a staring contest.)

2) Super Buu (Base) vs. Fat Janemba. (Both are unable to regenerate.)

3) Hit vs. Future Zamasu.

4) Khin vs. KIng Cold.

5) Kid Buu vs. FIrst Form Frieza (ROF)

[TheUltimateNinja]

1) Alruneia vs. Android 17. (In a staring contest.)

2) Super Buu (Base) vs. Fat Janemba. (Both are unable to regenerate.)

3) Hit vs. Future Zamasu.

4) Khin vs. KIng Cold.

5) Kid Buu vs. FIrst Form Frieza (ROF)

1) 17 effortlessly wins.

2) Fat Janemba gets wrecked.

3) Stalemate, Hit can wreck Zamasu but Zamasu is immortal and keeps coming back.

4) King Cold oneshots.

5) Frieza oneshots.

1) TheUltimateNinja (armed only with a basket) vs. Goku Black (Future Trunks Saga).

2) Masked Saiyan vs. Golden Frieza and 10 billion Meta-Coolers.

3) Alruneia (armed with only a mirror) vs. Super Saiyan Vegeta (Androids Saga).

4) Old King Piccolo (with weighted cape) vs. Mr. Satan (Cell Games Saga).

1) I am unfortunately rendered incapable of posting on this forum anymore.

2) Golden Frieza solos.

3) Vegeta oneshots.

4) Piccolo gets killed by the weight of the cape, but manages to kill Satan with a quick blast before he dies.

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) Alruneia vs. Android 17. (In a staring contest.)

2) Super Buu (Base) vs. Fat Janemba. (Both are unable to regenerate.)

3) Hit vs. Future Zamasu.

4) Khin vs. KIng Cold.

5) Kid Buu vs. FIrst Form Frieza (ROF)

1) 17 effortlessly wins.

2) Fat Janemba gets wrecked.

3) Stalemate, Hit can wreck Zamasu but Zamasu is immortal and keeps coming back.

4) King Cold oneshots.

5) Frieza oneshots.

1) TheUltimateNinja (armed only with a basket) vs. Goku Black (Future Trunks Saga).

2) Masked Saiyan vs. Golden Frieza and 10 billion Meta-Coolers.

3) Alruneia (armed with only a mirror) vs. Super Saiyan Vegeta (Androids Saga).

4) Old King Piccolo (with weighted cape) vs. Mr. Satan (Cell Games Saga).

1) I am unfortunately rendered incapable of posting on this forum anymore.

2) Golden Frieza solos.

3) Vegeta oneshots.

4) Piccolo gets killed by the weight of the cape, but manages to kill Satan with a quick blast before he dies.

1) Mr. Buu vs. Shisami.

2) Uub (GT) vs. Kid Buu.

[TheUltimateNinja]

1) Mr. Buu vs. Shisami.

2) Uub (GT) vs. Kid Buu.

1) Shisami gets wrecked.

2) Uub gets wrecked.

[Anime Kitten]

This isn't mini-modding so much as a preference, but some of you really need to put more into your posts here. Simply writing "X wins using Y effort" or "Z one-shots" without any logic to back that up is only going to raise questions, and potentially inaccuracies. Anyway, though...

DanielSSJ VS 100% Beerus
No "Hakai" or God of Destruction-only techniques allowed.

[TheUltimateNinja]

This isn't mini-modding so much as a preference, but some of you really need to put more into your posts here. Simply writing "X wins using Y effort" or "Z one-shots" without any logic to back that up is only going to raise questions, and potentially inaccuracies. Anyway, though...

DanielSSJ VS 100% Beerus
No "Hakai" or God of Destruction-only techniques allowed.

I'm curious about this trend of pitting real people against fictional powerhouses, I mean it's totally obvious that the real folks get wrecked hard, right? Is there some comedic element to this?

[Anime Kitten]

I'm curious about this trend of pitting real people against fictional powerhouses, I mean it's totally obvious that the real folks get wrecked hard, right? Is there some comedic element to this?

It's not the "real people", it's the users. So yes, there's a comedic element to this. It started back here and continued for a bit afterward.

[Steven Bloodriver]

This isn't mini-modding so much as a preference, but some of you really need to put more into your posts here. Simply writing "X wins using Y effort" or "Z one-shots" without any logic to back that up is only going to raise questions, and potentially inaccuracies. Anyway, though...

DanielSSJ VS 100% Beerus
No "Hakai" or God of Destruction-only techniques allowed.

I'm curious about this trend of pitting real people against fictional powerhouses, I mean it's totally obvious that the real folks get wrecked hard, right? Is there some comedic element to this?

Yes, some of us have a bone to pick with the other.

1) Even if he had his potential unleashed by the Elder Kai, DanielSSJ would not have won against Beerus.

2) Whis vs. The entire Universe 6th Team.