The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:55 pm

DBZ Macky wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote: Chappa is comparable to 21st Budokai Roshi.
He's more comparable to the likes of Tao Pai Pai and Son Gohan.
Kame-sennin was worried about Goku even though he had seen his fight with Gohan.
Oh, and he knew that Goku had made impressive gains, travelling the world without the use of Kinto'un.
When Kuririn saw Goku's fight, he said something along the lines of "Don't use your full power just yet." which implies that he'd think that to stomp Chapa-o the way Goku did, he'd have to be at least as strong as he was against Gohan.

What proof do we have about Spopovich's power anyways? Satan is definitely not stronger than BoDB Goku, and Videl's supposed to be a little stronger than him. We don't get any implication that training with Gohan made any significant difference in her power. So Spopovich should be as strong as first appearance Goku at maximum.
I was lowballing him, since we don't actually see him doing anything. He's definitely way stronger than Namu, who is probably the strongest "normal" Earthling we see up to that point, though.

Spopovitch was getting his ass kicked by Videl, who wouldn't even match the weaker 21st Budokai finalists. Chappa would literally rip off his arm and beat him to death with it.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:45 pm

But guys, Giran can fly and can shoot his merry go round gum. Plus he has a tail to use like an extra arm and sharp animal teeth and managed to damage no-tail 21st WMAT Goku

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Angelus wrote:But guys, Giran can fly and can shoot his merry go round gum. Plus he has a tail to use like an extra arm and sharp animal teeth and managed to damage no-tail 21st WMAT Goku
So?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:22 pm

AvatarReiko wrote:Base Goten & Trunks(POST-Current) vs Initial 4th Form Frieza(Namek)
- Boys are not affected by CIS/PIS.
Super Trunks vs BOG SSJ3 Goku & Enraged SSJ2 Vegeta
Base Goku(Against Yakkon) vs Supreme Kai
Initial Base Black vs Buuhan
Buuicollo vs Super Jenemba
Base Trunks(Current) vs 17 & 18
Mystic Gohan vs SSJ Gogeta
Zamasu vs Golden Frieza

- No ki drain
BOG Roshi vs Raditz
Garlic Jr. vs Zamasu

- Win by death(hehe)
- The kids were well beyond Namek-era Goku even before they trained in the Time Chamber, so they should have no problem against Freeza if he can't power up at all. By the way, I have no idea what the hell CIS/PIS is supposed to mean.
- You mean Trunks' fake Super Saiyan Blue form? He was strong enough to give Black a hard time when SS Blue Goku and Vegeta couldn't handle him, so I'd say it's safe to sat that he stomps these versions of Goku and Vegeta into dust.
- Well Goku's weaker than Freeza without Super Saiyan, and Freeza's way weaker than Piccolo, who is way weaker than Kaioshin and do you see where I'm going with this?
- No clue.
- Janemba is apparently stronger than Hildegarn, who kicked the crap out of SS3 Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan, and he's probably about as powerful as Gohan-Boo or Gotenks-Boo, so Piccolo-Boo doesn't stand a chance.
- If we're going by manga logic, Goku and Vegeta aren't massively more powerful than they were without their God forms. Trunks is at best above Freeza, but doesn't quite match up to the Androids yet.
- Since Janemba's probably up there with Boo's absorbed forms, Gogeta is even stronger, and makes Gohan his bitch.
- No clue.
- No clue.
- They both get sealed away in the Dead Zone, and since no one actually dies, it's a tie.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:39 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Angelus wrote:But guys, Giran can fly and can shoot his merry go round gum. Plus he has a tail to use like an extra arm and sharp animal teeth and managed to damage no-tail 21st WMAT Goku
So?
So he can fly while Chappa can't. Can shoot him with gum and can damage him adequately too

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Post by Sailor Haumea » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:42 pm

Sailor Haumea wrote:Crossover time!

Sailor Senshi are as of the end of the series.

Sailor Saturn vs. Beerus
Sailor Moon vs. base Goku (Peaceful World Saga)
Sailor Pluto vs. base Vegeta (Peaceful World Saga)

Who wins each match?
Is no one going to take these?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:48 pm

Angelus wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Angelus wrote:But guys, Giran can fly and can shoot his merry go round gum. Plus he has a tail to use like an extra arm and sharp animal teeth and managed to damage no-tail 21st WMAT Goku
So?
So he can fly while Chappa can't. Can shoot him with gum and can damage him adequately too
No, he can't. I mean, he can fly all he wants, but the gum isn't gonna do anything. Goku broke it in the Budokai, and Chappa is much stronger than that. And how is Giran even gonna hurt Chappa?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:49 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Angelus wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote: So?
So he can fly while Chappa can't. Can shoot him with gum and can damage him adequately too
No, he can't. I mean, he can fly all he wants, but the gum isn't gonna do anything. Goku broke it in the Budokai, and Chappa is much stronger than that. And how is Giran even gonna hurt Chappa?
Giran managed to damage Goku

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:50 pm

Angelus wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Angelus wrote:
So he can fly while Chappa can't. Can shoot him with gum and can damage him adequately too
No, he can't. I mean, he can fly all he wants, but the gum isn't gonna do anything. Goku broke it in the Budokai, and Chappa is much stronger than that. And how is Giran even gonna hurt Chappa?
Giran managed to damage Goku
21st Budokai Goku. Chappa is much stronger than that.
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Post by Angelus » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:46 pm

Which is why his bracket have the toughest people. The other bracket have weaker people

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:58 pm

AvatarReiko wrote:Base Goten & Trunks(POST-Current) vs Initial 4th Form Frieza(Namek)
- Boys are not affected by CIS/PIS.
Super Trunks vs BOG SSJ3 Goku & Enraged SSJ2 Vegeta
Base Goku(Against Yakkon) vs Supreme Kai
Initial Base Black vs Buuhan
Buuicollo vs Super Jenemba
Base Trunks(Current) vs 17 & 18
Mystic Gohan vs SSJ Gogeta
Zamasu vs Golden Frieza

- No ki drain
BOG Roshi vs Raditz
Garlic Jr. vs Zamasu

- Win by death(hehe)
Goten and Trunks beat this Freeza fairly easily. If Freeza powers up to 50% then he beings to beat them.
Trunks one shots them.
East Kaioshin kills Goku with a look.
Black easily. He is over 400 times stronger than current base Goku who is stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks.
I give this to Buucollo.
Which Trunks? If it is Future Trunks he one shots them. If it is Kid Trunks then he gets killed.
Gohan beats even SSJ2 Gogeta.
Which Zamasu? If it is Future Zamasu he kills Freeza, if not then Freeza wins.
Raditz.
It's a draw until Garlic gets stupid, opens the Dead Zone and gets trapped there.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:16 pm

Angelus wrote:Which is why his bracket have the toughest people. The other bracket have weaker people
It ends up being Pamput vs Chappa, with Chappa breaking him in half. These aren't balanced matchups at all. Videl and Spopovitch don't need to be there at all. Chappa could solo the entire tournament himself.
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Post by Angelus » Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:35 pm

I thought about including Nam and Bora originally. Like Nam VS Chappa so that it would tire out Chappa

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by In Brightest Day » Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:44 pm

Angelus wrote:Let's have a little WMAT tourney! Who'll win their matches and the tournament to become the World Champion? :thumbup:

And a bit of a twist ending: whoever wins this tournament gets to immediately challenge the reigning World Champ, Mr. Hercule Satan! :lol:


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Quarterfinals.

Match 1: King Chappa vs. Giran.
- As others have mentioned, King Chappa is closer to the likes of Mercenary Tao and Grandpa Gohan. He would run over everyone at the 21st Budokai without difficulty.

Match 2: Man-Wolf vs. Majin Spopovich.
- It's pretty hard to peg Man-Wolf. Regardless, he made it through the preliminaries, so I assume he's at least as strong as Pamput but more than likely a lot stronger than that. Either way, Spopovich is completely outclassed. Spopovich was getting his ass beat by Videl who isn't even bullet proof as of Battle of Gods. By power scaling, 90% of the fighters who made it to the quarterfinals of the tournaments throughout Dragonball can tank bullets with minor bruises at worst and punch through brick walls. Spopovich's wacky healing factor is only going to take him so far when his opponents are all strong enough to literally punch his head off his shoulders. This is a horrible stomp.

Match 3: Ranfan vs. Pamput.
- Ranfan was actually able to land blows on Namu that seemed to be having some effect, while Pamput was explicitly stated to still be lower than Dragonball's set level for beyond what a "normal" fighter is capable of. Casually breaking through a brick wall places him well beyond Videl and Mr. Satan, but I'm doubtful Ranfan would need to resort to her typical strategy to pick up a victory here.

Match 4: Bacterian vs. Videl.
- Bacterian had 21st Budokai Krillin on the ropes throughout most of their fight. Videl gets stomped.

Semi-Finals.

Match 1: King Chappa vs. Man-Wolf.
- Man-Wolf wasn't considered much of a threat to Roshi and basically every statement and performance in relation to Chappa indicates he is in a completely different league. Another stomp.

Match 2: Bacterian vs. Ranfan.
- There really is no way to tell as both of these two fought pretty well against their respective opponents. The coin I just flipped said Bacterian would fall for Ranfan stripping before Bactarian's stench got the better of her.


Final round: King Chappa vs. Ranfan.
- See Match 1. Chappa is well beyond all of the participants who entered the 21st Budokai.


Winner: King Chappa, in a hilarious landslide of a victory.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by In Brightest Day » Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:58 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
In Brightest Day wrote:That's a hell of a list of made up numbers. Good stuff mate.
It demonstrates power gaps better than X >> Y >>>>> Z and things like that.
I have a list which I follow like most. Having "a list" of made up numbers still doesn't change the fact that we're using 1 + 1 = 2 logic for the vast majority of these fights.

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Post by Angelus » Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:11 pm

Thanks for the answers! Darn, I knew I should have included Bora and Nam in there instead of Spopo and Videl

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Post by Bullza » Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:40 pm

Salza vs Frieza (Second Form)

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:29 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:So?
Come on. I know that you know these types of responses are frowned upon here. If you're going to partake in the discussion, do it properly (like the rest of your posts on the page). Don't just be dismissive.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:20 pm

Bullza wrote:Salza vs Frieza (Second Form)
Salza doesn't even reach 200,000. Freeza murders him in an instant.

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