The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:59 am

ekrolo2 wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:I guess if Gohan and Trunks managed to get 17 & 18 stand still for a prolonged period of time while they both perform the Mafuba at the exact same time it could work, but it's unlikely.
Not really, Dragon Ball villains love to stand around and talk shit, its not out of character at all for them to see Gohan and Trunks with some dumb jars and try to act cocky before getting sucked in.

But if that's too hard to swallow, they can also blind them with Taiyoken and take them that way while they're distracted.
This made me think of one: What if out of desperation Goku decided to seal Beerus into a jar in BoG?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Noah » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:10 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:This made me think of one: What if out of desperation Goku decided to seal Beerus into a jar in BoG?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by MatrixChap » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:30 pm

Considering what happened to Goku when he got dropped on his head as a child, what if Raditz trashed him like he did, but then dropped him off a cliff so Goku hits his head again? Would Goku join Raditz? Or just become very violent?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Sailor Haumea » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:32 pm

MatrixChap wrote:Considering what happened to Goku when he got dropped on his head as a child, what if Raditz trashed him like he did, but then dropped him off a cliff so Goku hits his head again? Would Goku join Raditz? Or just become very violent?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:39 pm

What if Goku unlocked Super Saiyan 4 during his rage out against Black & Zamasu? Can he take Black down or would he just give Black another well of power to draw from, screwing them over in the long run?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Cetra » Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:23 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:What if Goku unlocked Super Saiyan 4 during his rage out against Black & Zamasu? Can he take Black down or would he just give Black another well of power to draw from, screwing them over in the long run?
I am pretty convinced SSJ4 is on a whole different level. But we will see in case they decide to do something with it again one day.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:14 pm

Sailor Haumea wrote:
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Sailor Haumea wrote: If Future Trunks, I'd warn him of Goku Black.
But he would be stuck in our Universe.
Then I'd hug him and assure him everything would be all right. The kid's been through hell.

Then I'd be giving him dirty looks for a very long time...
Even so... Why did it take you so long to reply?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Sailor Haumea » Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:59 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote: But he would be stuck in our Universe.
Then I'd hug him and assure him everything would be all right. The kid's been through hell.

Then I'd be giving him dirty looks for a very long time...
Even so... Why did it take you so long to reply?
I dunno.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Noah » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:08 pm

What if Androids 17 and 18 (same strenght as their future counterparts) have come instead of 19 and 20? Could Goku and the gang win against them?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:15 pm

Sailor Haumea wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote: Then I'd hug him and assure him everything would be all right. The kid's been through hell.

Then I'd be giving him dirty looks for a very long time...
Even so... Why did it take you so long to reply?
I dunno.
1) I wonder if he would help fix your roof then.

2) What if after betraying the Dark Demon Realm, but before she ever thought of creating the evil bastard, Mira, as her Bodyguard; Towa had went to Earth to collect Kiri and later befriended Teen Gohan after he had saved her from a thawed Legendary Super Saiyan Broly that she was trying to possess a day following the horrific Cell Games?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by ryou766 » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:17 pm

What if the Black arc took place in GT and Black fought against Child Goku? Lol, I actually did such a fight on XV2.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:17 pm

Noah wrote:What if Androids 17 and 18 (same strenght as their future counterparts) have come instead of 19 and 20? Could Goku and the gang win against them?
As Super Saiyans, Goku and Vegeta would be capable of defeating them one on one.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:18 pm

ryou766 wrote:What if the Black arc took place in GT and Black fought against Child Goku? Lol, I actually did such a fight on XV2.
At what point in time in Dragon Ball GT do you mean?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Sailor Haumea » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:18 pm

What if, after beating Chilled and walking off into the distance, Bardock found himself transported to Capsule Corp just after the Namekians are teleported to New Namek?

What changes with Goku's father around?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by ryou766 » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:19 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
ryou766 wrote:What if the Black arc took place in GT and Black fought against Child Goku? Lol, I actually did such a fight on XV2.
At what point in time in Dragon Ball GT do you mean?
Any time; just after the wish was made to turn Goku into a child.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:24 pm

Sailor Haumea wrote:What if, after beating Chilled and walking off into the distance, Bardock found himself transported to Capsule Corp just after the Namekians are teleported to New Namek?

What changes with Goku's father around?
Young Gohan, the other Z Fighters, and everyone else there would think for the first split-second he was Goku, but they would quickly realize that he isn't. But only Vegeta would have really treated him with the utmost disdain, once he would return to the Earth.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Sailor Haumea » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:28 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote:What if, after beating Chilled and walking off into the distance, Bardock found himself transported to Capsule Corp just after the Namekians are teleported to New Namek?

What changes with Goku's father around?
Young Gohan, the other Z Fighters, and everyone else there would think for the first split-second he was Goku, but they would quickly realize that he isn't. But only Vegeta would have really treated him with the utmost disdain, once he would return to the Earth.
How does the series change with his presence?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:28 pm

ryou766 wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:
ryou766 wrote:What if the Black arc took place in GT and Black fought against Child Goku? Lol, I actually did such a fight on XV2.
At what point in time in Dragon Ball GT do you mean?
Any time; just after the wish was made to turn Goku into a child.
Little Goku (GT) would have only been able to win by himself if he were to have used the Dragon Fist on his evil doppelganger right from the start.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:07 pm

Sailor Haumea wrote:
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Sailor Haumea wrote:What if, after beating Chilled and walking off into the distance, Bardock found himself transported to Capsule Corp just after the Namekians are teleported to New Namek?

What changes with Goku's father around?
Young Gohan, the other Z Fighters, and everyone else there would think for the first split-second he was Goku, but they would quickly realize that he isn't. But only Vegeta would have really treated him with the utmost disdain, once he would return to the Earth.
How does the series change with his presence?
1) Quite remarkably in fact. For Bardock would have stuck with the Son Family for the rest of his life.

2) Because of his time with Berry on Planet Plant in the very distant past, Bardock would have been at the very least a much nicer version of Piccolo. His presence would have been enough to make his two grandsons; Gohan and Goten, respectively to make time to both study and train under him and Piccolo. But I for the life of me don't know if Bardock and Chi-Chi would get along...

3) The villains in the Garlic Junior Saga would have had never claimed an innocent life as Bardock would have stopped them and completely reduce each and every one of them to ashless remains, and then the smug (as you know what) Vegeta would have been beaten to the ground by Bardock as soon as once the Prince would have returned to Earth. (As Bardock would have been informed of everything Vegeta had ever done since his first arrival to Earth with Nappa.)

4) Knowing how much of a dick the Prince was to everyone, even as a kid, Bardock would not have spared Vegeta, by the time Mecha Frieza, King Cold, and Future Trunks would arrive, Gohan would have been a Super Saiyan. For he and Piccolo would have been much stronger from training with Bardock, the time-traveling Saiyan from the past would have been much stronger as well; strong enough in his base form to have effortlessly killed off all of the Frieza Soldiers both the likes of Mecha Frieza and King Cold had brung all by himself. Then as a freaking Super Saiyan, Bardock would have finally been able to sow vengeance upon the one who claimed the lives of those he loved and let Super Saiyan Gohan, Piccolo, or Super Saiyan Future Trunks to take care of King Cold.

5) From then on, the series would have been continued to be much better than in canon.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Sailor Haumea » Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:11 pm

I doubt Bardock would kill Vegeta. Given that Saiyans are so few (at that point, they consist of Goku, Gohan, Bardock, Turles, Onio, Vegeta, Tarble, Paragus, and Broly) that they can be counted on two hands, I feel he'd leave the prince alone. Besides, he's the prince. At this point, Bardock is still much, much weaker than Vegeta, even as a Super Saiyan.

And I assume Garlic Jr. is an idiot and opens the Dead Zone same as in canon?
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