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Re: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 11/2/16!)

Post by DanielSSJ » Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:24 am

jcogginsa wrote:Did they use Kikuchi for the dub of Dragonball? If so, I was first exposed to it there. If not, I didn't here it until Kai's dub.

I do like it though.
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Post by Regarder » Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:52 am

Did Funi also do the Dragonball dub after they finished with Z, because the voice acting for the DB dub sounds better to me as well?

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:43 am

Regarder wrote:Did Funi also do the Dragonball dub after they finished with Z, because the voice acting for the DB dub sounds better to me as well?
(Very) Brief Timeline:
1995: FUNimation's dub of the first 13 episodes of Dragon Ball
1996-1997: FUNimation's dub of season 1 of Dragon Ball Z
1997-1998: FUNimation's dub of season 2 of Dragon Ball Z
1999-2000: FUNimation's dub of season 3 of Dragon Ball Z, with voice work moved from Canada to Texas, and music taken over by Faulconer
2000-2001: FUNimation's dub of season 4 of Dragon Ball Z
2001-2002: FUNimation's dub of season 5 of Dragon Ball Z and their relaunching of Dragon Ball, redubbing the first 13 and continuing on

So, yes and no. They started with DB before skipping ahead to DBZ. Then, at the same time they were doing the Boo Arc, two years after they'd switched to their in-house cast, they tried Dragon Ball again. So the voice cast was indeed more experienced by that time.
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Post by Regarder » Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:54 pm

Well that explains it. I definitely didn't see those 13 eps in the '90s. The 23rd Budokai section was the first section of DB I saw, and I was very impressed (I know you didn't rate that part too good, but I guess I just liked the Piccolo Vs Goku stuff.)

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Post by coola » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:11 am

Great video a always, i didn't notice that mistake Kuririn made while they went to Guru, funny thng is, if battle did engaged, Vegeta with his 30.000 wouldn't do much against Nail 42.000 :) I agree that part with Kaio sending Goku clothes was weird, but he couldn't teleport it to Goku in space, because if he could, why he didn't teleport Goku to Earth after he got wished back?
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:22 am

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coola wrote:Great video a always, i didn't notice that mistake Kuririn made while they went to Guru, funny thng is, if battle did engaged, Vegeta with his 30.000 wouldn't do much against Nail 42.000 :)
That's a good point. I hadn't thought about that. Maybe Nail would have actually gotten to do something useful. Although since Vegeta ends up being so necessary in this arc, it still would have been rather useless after all. =P
I agree that part with Kaio sending Goku clothes was weird, but he couldn't teleport it to Goku in space, because if he could, why he didn't teleport Goku to Earth after he got wished back?
It didn't stop him from teleporting that first uniform to Earth, so why would space be any different?
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Post by coola » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:36 am

It didn't stop him from teleporting that first uniform to Earth, so why would space be any different?
Ah, somehow i completely forgot about that. :oops:
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Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:18 am

Oh wow, it never occurred to me that Goku's little dangly bits on the boots were only introduced on Namek, I always assumed they were always there even after reading most of the manga :P
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:51 am

ekrolo2 wrote:Oh wow, it never occurred to me that Goku's little dangly bits on the boots were only introduced on Namek, I always assumed they were always there even after reading most of the manga :P
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And it's not just the dangly things. The colors swap at some point around this time too. Prior to this, the trim of the boots were typically yellow while the non-dangly lace was red. Around the time the dangly things are introduced, the colors swap. And that's essentially true for both the anime and manga.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:04 pm

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Post by Rubens » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:09 pm

Interesting, aside from the boots I also never noticed the different kanjis on Goku's gi and even less blatant, Kuririn's gi with a different kanji. I've got to check if the anime corrected that (although with scenes such as the one with Gohan, Kuririn and Piccolo moving away when Goku is about to fight Freeza where Kuririn leaves wearing a battle armor, then flies away in his orange gi, I'm forced to keep my expectations low), but hopefully you'll eventually cover that. :)

And nice video, as usual, I always learn new things from them!
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Post by Kid Buu » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:37 am

This is my favourite part of the series even if Bulma got shafted. i always thought the adventure parts were more exciting than the constant string of battles that kept happening in latter sagas.
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Post by FoolsGil » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:32 am

Yeah this is something I never got. Why didn't Toriyama ever write Bulma to go after a dragonball or multiple dragonballs? None of her ships emit ki, she's smart enough to pay attention to her surroundings unlike Gohan and Krillin when they get excited about a dragonball and/or get powered up, she really could have played an almost subterfuge/spy role, and no one would see her coming because she's not a fighter. Man, what the heck?

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Post by Nejishiki » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:18 pm

Rubens wrote:Interesting, aside from the boots I also never noticed the different kanjis on Goku's gi and even less blatant, Kuririn's gi with a different kanji. I've got to check if the anime corrected that (although with scenes such as the one with Gohan, Kuririn and Piccolo moving away when Goku is about to fight Freeza where Kuririn leaves wearing a battle armor, then flies away in his orange gi, I'm forced to keep my expectations low), but hopefully you'll eventually cover that. :)

And nice video, as usual, I always learn new things from them!
The panel referenced doesn't exist in the anime adaption. Instead of focusing the camera on Kuririn's back during that dialogue, it's his face where the camera is placed. The first image I provided isn't clear from the source episode, but it seems Kuririn retains his "Turtle" kanji during that particular segment.

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FoolsGil wrote:Yeah this is something I never got. Why didn't Toriyama ever write Bulma to go after a dragonball or multiple dragonballs? None of her ships emit ki, she's smart enough to pay attention to her surroundings unlike Gohan and Krillin when they get excited about a dragonball and/or get powered up, she really could have played an almost subterfuge/spy role, and no one would see her coming because she's not a fighter. Man, what the heck?
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FoolsGil wrote:Yeah this is something I never got. Why didn't Toriyama ever write Bulma to go after a dragonball or multiple dragonballs? None of her ships emit ki, she's smart enough to pay attention to her surroundings unlike Gohan and Krillin when they get excited about a dragonball and/or get powered up, she really could have played an almost subterfuge/spy role, and no one would see her coming because she's not a fighter. Man, what the heck?
She's not that good at not panicking, she can't really defend herself, she's not fast at all, her normal Ki is still readable by scouters and the enemies still have eyes and ears.

She would only be good at it if she had some sort of mech that was good at going unnoticed, fast, pretty good at combat, with some sort of AI to compensate for her panic.

Basically, she would need an Iron Man suit with Jarvis on the wheel and a stealth mode.

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Post by Rubens » Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:14 pm

Nejishiki wrote:
Rubens wrote:Interesting, aside from the boots I also never noticed the different kanjis on Goku's gi and even less blatant, Kuririn's gi with a different kanji. I've got to check if the anime corrected that (although with scenes such as the one with Gohan, Kuririn and Piccolo moving away when Goku is about to fight Freeza where Kuririn leaves wearing a battle armor, then flies away in his orange gi, I'm forced to keep my expectations low), but hopefully you'll eventually cover that. :)

And nice video, as usual, I always learn new things from them!
The panel referenced doesn't exist in the anime adaption. Instead of focusing the camera on Kuririn's back during that dialogue, it's his face where the camera is placed. The first image I provided isn't clear from the source episode, but it seems Kuririn retains his "Turtle" kanji during that particular segment.
I see, thanks for clearing that up.
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FoolsGil wrote:Yeah this is something I never got. Why didn't Toriyama ever write Bulma to go after a dragonball or multiple dragonballs? None of her ships emit ki, she's smart enough to pay attention to her surroundings unlike Gohan and Krillin when they get excited about a dragonball and/or get powered up, she really could have played an almost subterfuge/spy role, and no one would see her coming because she's not a fighter. Man, what the heck?
Well the cartoon gave her some stuff to do. A lot of people don't like the original content there, but honestly I didn't mind i.
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Kid Buu wrote:Well the cartoon gave her some stuff to do. A lot of people don't like the original content there, but honestly I didn't mind i.
I'll be honest, too. While the cartoon made her even more unbearably annoying and gave her tons of extra insufferable scenes, I actually really enjoy the two episodes with Blooma and the Dragon Ball. I mean, yeah, what got her into it was excruciatingly stupid ("I don't want to get wet!"), but once the, pardon the pun, ball got rolling, it was actually quite fun, and she handled herself very well.
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