About Black's Lifespan and Clones

[Lord Frieza]

Ok so I have one question and an theory.

First of Black's lifespan, how long is it know? Is he now limited to that of a saiyan or dose he still have his Kaioshin one?

As for his clones, could they be linked to the creation powers of the kaioshin? Or more accurately a corrupted variation them?

My theory is that Black is manipulating the raw energy/matter bleeding through the wound in reality to generate his clones and that this power is a corrupted version of his natural Kaioshin abilities, thanks to the blend of saiyan and kaioshin ki.

[Lionel]

His soul is that of a Shinjin's, but his physical body and vitality belongs to a Saiyan. When the inverse occurred -- i.e. Elder Kaioshin bequeathed his life force to Goku -- he still appeared to age by the time of the epilogue as his nasolabial folds became more pronounced despite technically having the incredible life energy of the Shinjin. I suspect Black's expectancy is the same as Goku's. Surely the remainder of his life couldn't be much more than a few decades. Future Zamasu would be left to administrate his perverted ideology all on his own for the rest of eternity.

A possible connection to Kaioshin's inherent ability for breathing life into conception seems like a good explanation for these new abilities. I'm not all too certain about the relation with Goku's body, though. Kami was able to reconstruct Chaozu's body, fully capable of traversing Snake Way in less time than Goku did and endure the intensity of King Kai's planet, after the battle with Nappa. A Kaioshin's materialisation powers should be greatly more advanced than the residential deity of Earth.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I'd assume that he cut his lifespan by quite a bit going into Goku's body, I can't think of one reason that a Kaioshin's mind should stop Goku's body from aging. Although given what a... close relationship that he had with Zamasu, I imagine that they would have fused if Goku's body ever started to wane. That's just headcanon though.

[Ki Breaker]

Body is the reason for ageing.. Black would definitely have grown old at Saiyan rates..

His clones.. well I actually think toie couldn't come up with an answer themselves thus black saying who knows..

To tell you my thoughts.. I presume it is like the one possibility black have.. His anger, combined with his kaioshin powers made the clones appear

[GodVegetto91]

Well on one hand Black keeps refering to Goku and Vegeta as mortals. Which heavily implies that he excludes himself from that category..

While Zamasu was hinted to be a young Kaioshin (apprentice) i still believe he should be in the thousands. Because that's still considered young for Kaioshins who can live up to millions of years. Ofcourse he used to be the former Kaio. So i believe he should be just thousands of years old. But ofcourse we have no information on that yet so i could be wrong ofcourse.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Well on one hand Black keeps refering to Goku and Vegeta as mortals.

"Mortal" is an imperfect translation. What he actually refers to is "ningen", which usually translates to human, but contextually, is used to refer to non-gods in DBS. Since "non-god" isn't very intuitive, subs use either "human" or "mortal"

[GodVegetto91]

Well on one hand Black keeps refering to Goku and Vegeta as mortals.

"Mortal" is an imperfect translation. What he actually refers to is "ningen", which usually translates to human, but contextually, is used to refer to non-gods in DBS. Since "non-god" isn't very intuitive, subs use either "human" or "mortal"

I am well aware of all that. My point still stays the same. He excludes himself from all what he considers lower than him.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I am well aware of all that. My point still stays the same. He excludes himself from all what he considers lower than him.

I think I misunderstood what you were getting at.

[GodVegetto91]

I am well aware of all that. My point still stays the same. He excludes himself from all what he considers lower than him.

I think I misunderstood what you were getting at.

That's exactly what happened indeed.

[Lord Frieza]

Well on one hand Black keeps refering to Goku and Vegeta as mortals.

"Mortal" is an imperfect translation. What he actually refers to is "ningen", which usually translates to human, but contextually, is used to refer to non-gods in DBS. Since "non-god" isn't very intuitive, subs use either "human" or "mortal"

Well they might as well be, I forget were I heard this from but is basically went like "once you start measuring your life centuries are you not considered immortal?" and later this characters said "Thats very human, arguing over what is and is not immortality and wasting time defining different types".