Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

[HeroR]

He was looking real pissed about Vegeta and Trunks pushing his attack back, so he was clearly putting in some significant effort there.

To be fair, Zamasu is rather easily offended in general because of his arrogance. It's quite common for him to get flustered when something unexpected happens, and I think that would hold true even if he was using only a small fraction of his power for that attack.

I don't believe he'll be forced to use his full strength until Vegito comes into the picture.

Plus, he wasn't even burnt in the deflect attack. He looks more mad that Vegeta and Trunks dared to defy him.

[TheUltimateNinja]

He was looking real pissed about Vegeta and Trunks pushing his attack back, so he was clearly putting in some significant effort there.

To be fair, Zamasu is rather easily offended in general because of his arrogance. It's quite common for him to get flustered when something unexpected happens, and I think that would hold true even if he was using only a small fraction of his power for that attack.

I don't believe he'll be forced to use his full strength until Vegito comes into the picture.

Plus, he wasn't even burnt in the deflect attack. He looks more mad that Vegeta and Trunks dared to defy him.

If he was so mad maybe he should have put more than like 2% of his power into that attack.

[HeroR]

If he was so mad maybe he should have put more than like 2% of his power into that attack.

This is Zamasu we're talking about. He gets mad at mortals just touching him. Plus he had Future Zamasu within him, the same person who can barely bother to dodge attacks.

[TheUltimateNinja]

I wonder why Zamasu doesn't just go 100% from the start and instantly kill all the heroes. Instead he just uses a small fraction of his power and is shocked when it doesn't work.

[Cetra]

I wonder why Zamasu doesn't just go 100% from the start and instantly kill all the heroes. Instead he just uses a small fraction of his power and is shocked when it doesn't work.

For the same reason all cliché villains don't do it. So they story can go on without a Game Over.

[HeroR]

I wonder why Zamasu doesn't just go 100% from the start and instantly kill all the heroes. Instead he just uses a small fraction of his power and is shocked when it doesn't work.

He's a arrogant god who thinks he's the best thing since slice bread. Using his full power against insect mortals is beneath him.

[Bullza]

In the preview SSJB Vegito fires a big bang Kamehameha right at Zamasu and you see him come out of the smoke so he's durable enough.

It would be nice if we had some form of comparison between them and Beerus or Whis but I don't think we'll get one anytime soon.

Someone did remind me of something though. If Beerus and Champa aren't allowed to fight because it'd cause the destruction of both universes but it's ok for Vegito and Zamasu to fight...does that mean they're weaker?

They might not necessarily be weaker. Goku and Beerus were gonna destroy the universe in their fight but Goku and Black didn't and they're stronger so it might not mean squat.

[HeroR]

In the preview SSJB Vegito fires a big bang Kamehameha right at Zamasu and you see him come out of the smoke so he's durable enough.

It would be nice if we had some form of comparison between them and Beerus or Whis but I don't think we'll get one anytime soon.

Someone did remind me of something though. If Beerus and Champa aren't allowed to fight because it'd cause the destruction of both universes but it's ok for Vegito and Zamasu to fight...does that mean they're weaker?

They might not necessarily be weaker. Goku and Beerus were gonna destroy the universe in their fight but Goku and Black didn't and they're stronger so it might not mean squat.

He is an immortal, so any attack from Vegetto won't do crap to him.

[SansrivaaL]

For some weird fcked up reason Goku was doing a better job at handling that blast from Merged Zamasu than the father-son Galick Gun..... wtf? we even see him pushing it back before the ep ended and we dont need to see the next ep to know the result of the ki clash, Goku with his new move called the life risking attack will be able to destroy the light shiz on his back....

[pacz360]

In the preview SSJB Vegito fires a big bang Kamehameha right at Zamasu and you see him come out of the smoke so he's durable enough.

It would be nice if we had some form of comparison between them and Beerus or Whis but I don't think we'll get one anytime soon.

Someone did remind me of something though. If Beerus and Champa aren't allowed to fight because it'd cause the destruction of both universes but it's ok for Vegito and Zamasu to fight...does that mean they're weaker?

No it doesn't make them weaker considering the history in this series.

[Helios518]

In the preview SSJB Vegito fires a big bang Kamehameha right at Zamasu and you see him come out of the smoke so he's durable enough.

It would be nice if we had some form of comparison between them and Beerus or Whis but I don't think we'll get one anytime soon.

Someone did remind me of something though. If Beerus and Champa aren't allowed to fight because it'd cause the destruction of both universes but it's ok for Vegito and Zamasu to fight...does that mean they're weaker?

They might not necessarily be weaker. Goku and Beerus were gonna destroy the universe in their fight but Goku and Black didn't and they're stronger so it might not mean squat.

Just want to point out that was the "Final Kamehameha"

[Bullza]

Well considering that Super Vegito was dozens of times as strong as Super Saiyan Goku then if that also holds true for Super Saiyan Blue Vegito then I call bullshit on Beerus being stronger than him.

Beerus shouldn't even be dozens of times stronger than Rageta.

There's definitely some consistency problems somewhere. I don't know if it's the writers fault because there's several of them or were overanalyzing it or what.

Things just don't fit no matter what view you have.

[SansrivaaL]

What I wanna see now is how Beerus would react seeing Vegito and how their interactions would be considering Vegito is a combination of Goku and Vegeta that includes his personality, the guy is both cocky and childish.

[HeroR]

Well considering that Super Vegito was dozens of times as strong as Super Saiyan Goku then if that also holds true for Super Saiyan Blue Vegito then I call bullshit on Beerus being stronger than him.

Beerus shouldn't even be dozens of times stronger than Rageta.

There's definitely some consistency problems somewhere. I don't know if it's the writers fault because there's several of them or were overanalyzing it or what.

Things just don't fit no matter what view you have.

Well, considering that Beerus was BSing about his power throughout the the Battle of Gods Saga, I don't know what you take Beerus' words as fact when it comes to how much of his power he was using at any giving time. Especially since he didn't need to used 10% of his power since Rage Vegeta didn't even hurt him unlike the movie.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Well considering that Super Vegito was dozens of times as strong as Super Saiyan Goku then if that also holds true for Super Saiyan Blue Vegito then I call bullshit on Beerus being stronger than him.

Beerus shouldn't even be dozens of times stronger than Rageta.

There's definitely some consistency problems somewhere. I don't know if it's the writers fault because there's several of them or were overanalyzing it or what.

Things just don't fit no matter what view you have.

Well, considering that Beerus was BSing about his power throughout the the Battle of Gods Saga, I don't know what you take Beerus' words as fact when it comes to how much of his power he was using at any giving time. Especially since he didn't need to used 10% of his power since Rage Vegeta didn't even hurt him unlike the movie.

If you still have Vegetto below Beerus it basically gets to the point where you have Beerus using like 0.5% of his power against SSG Goku.

[DBZ Macky]

I'm really pissed that Goku's Kamehameha could perform as well as Trunks and Vegeta's "Father-Son Galick Gun" together.
All he had to do was say "Kaioken x10" or heck, even a regular Kaioken. How is his attack a life risking one, if it's just a regular Kamehameha?

[TheUltimateNinja]

I'm really pissed that Goku's Kamehameha could perform as well as Trunks and Vegeta's "Father-Son Galick Gun" together.
All he had to do was say "Kaioken x10" or heck, even a regular Kaioken. How is his attack a life risking one, if it's just a regular Kamehameha?

It's because Goku has finally surpassed Vegeta. I dunno about life risking, though. Isn't that in the next episode?

[HeroR]

Well, considering that Beerus was BSing about his power throughout the the Battle of Gods Saga, I don't know what you take Beerus' words as fact when it comes to how much of his power he was using at any giving time. Especially since he didn't need to used 10% of his power since Rage Vegeta didn't even hurt him unlike the movie.

If you still have Vegetto below Beerus it basically gets to the point where you have Beerus using like 0.5% of his power against SSG Goku.[/quote]

Isn't like Beerus gave a percentage, unlike the movie.

[AvatarReiko]

So is Zamasu stronger than the saiyans or not? I found this episode pretty confusing because of inconsistent pls. At the beginning, Zamasu wrecks Goku and Vegeta and stopped their attacks like it was nothing. But by the end, we have Vegeta/Trunks overpowering him and Goku subsequently outperforming them by pushing his Ki blast back. Zamasu is visibly surprised and pissed that Vegeta and Trunks overpowered him. Vegeta and Goku get KO'd and defeated multiple times but are not only do they survive but can return to fighting shape.

It just seems like a merged Zamasu should be so much more powerful than he's depicted. Like, he should be literally facetanking anything they throw at him with

[TheUltimateNinja]

If you still have Vegetto below Beerus it basically gets to the point where you have Beerus using like 0.5% of his power against SSG Goku.

Isn't like Beerus gave a percentage, unlike the movie.

We can deduce this from the fact that Vegetto is still weaker than Beerus. Vegetto's base back when they used him in the Buu Arc was at least as high as SSJ Goku so if he's still weaker than Beerus this means current Goku is still below 2% of Beerus.