Is Merged Zamasu getting weaker?
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Is Merged Zamasu getting weaker?
Looks like Zamasu is almost melting in the NEP of episode 65, anyone else think he may be getting weaker? If I remember right, if you fuse as a Super Saiyan you can't switch to base. Black was in his SSR form when he and Zamasu fused, anyone else think because of this it's draining his life? I wonder if that would cancel out the effects of Zamasu's immortality?
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Re: Is Merged Zamasu getting weaker?
Zamasu's body is caving in on itself.
This could be because...
a) Like you mentioned, they fused while Goku Black was a SSJR. The writers would need attention to detail for this to be the case though.
b) Zamasu fused with a body that had a soul that didn't belong to it.
c) The same people fused with each other, creating a horrible instability, as they shouldn't exist in the same timeline together.
d) He's just too strong. Immortality + ever increasing power might be too much for one body to handle.
e) I'm wrong and Vegito (or someone else) basically kicks the immortality out of Zamasu, forcing him to start melting. This fits Super's logic the most.
This could be because...
a) Like you mentioned, they fused while Goku Black was a SSJR. The writers would need attention to detail for this to be the case though.
b) Zamasu fused with a body that had a soul that didn't belong to it.
c) The same people fused with each other, creating a horrible instability, as they shouldn't exist in the same timeline together.
d) He's just too strong. Immortality + ever increasing power might be too much for one body to handle.
e) I'm wrong and Vegito (or someone else) basically kicks the immortality out of Zamasu, forcing him to start melting. This fits Super's logic the most.
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Well I would have to say no. If you watch the next episode Vegito is clearly having trouble with Zamasu despite his mutation/degradation.
I think that what evers causing it, it should be fatal but his immortality is forcing his body exist is spite of that fact. His body is caught in a state of perpetual degradation and regeneration. His ever increasing power probably dose not help ether. As his power keeps rising his mutation might start getting even worse! This might be worse the what happened to Garlic Jr, he was only sealed away. Zamasu has been effectively cured to life in agony for eternity!
I think that what evers causing it, it should be fatal but his immortality is forcing his body exist is spite of that fact. His body is caught in a state of perpetual degradation and regeneration. His ever increasing power probably dose not help ether. As his power keeps rising his mutation might start getting even worse! This might be worse the what happened to Garlic Jr, he was only sealed away. Zamasu has been effectively cured to life in agony for eternity!
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What are you basing this on?Lord Frieza wrote:Well I would have to say no. If you watch the next episode Vegito is clearly having trouble with Zamasu despite his mutation/degradation.
I think that what evers causing it, it should be fatal but his immortality is forcing his body exist is spite of that fact. His body is caught in a state of perpetual degradation and regeneration. His ever increasing power probably dose not help ether. As his power keeps rising his mutation might start getting even worse! This might be worse the what happened to Garlic Jr, he was only sealed away. Zamasu has been effectively cured to life in agony for eternity!
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Which part?HeroR wrote:What are you basing this on?Lord Frieza wrote:Well I would have to say no. If you watch the next episode Vegito is clearly having trouble with Zamasu despite his mutation/degradation.
I think that what evers causing it, it should be fatal but his immortality is forcing his body exist is spite of that fact. His body is caught in a state of perpetual degradation and regeneration. His ever increasing power probably dose not help ether. As his power keeps rising his mutation might start getting even worse! This might be worse the what happened to Garlic Jr, he was only sealed away. Zamasu has been effectively cured to life in agony for eternity!
Him being strong? In the preview Vegito has battle damage and cant restrain Zamasu by force, two things that have never happend to Goku/Vegeta Fusion before.
His mutation? Well take just one long look at him. Its clear that for some reason his body is unstable and something like that should kill him. But he has immortality so he cannot die.
The suffering? Just look at him again. How can something like that not be painful and theres no reason to assume he's suddenly going to get better. So eternal suffering.
I'll admit its just a theory but its one based on the facts we have. I could be wrong or partly right.
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His mutation putting him in constant pain. He doesn't look in pain. He just looks insane.Lord Frieza wrote:
Which part?
Him being strong? In the preview Vegito has battle damage and cant restrain Zamasu by force, two things that have never happend to Goku/Vegeta Fusion before.
His mutation? Well take just one long look at him. Its clear that for some reason his body is unstable and something like that should kill him. But he has immortality so he cannot die.
The suffering? Just look at him again. How can something like that not be painful and theres no reason to assume he's suddenly going to get better. So eternal suffering.
I'll admit its just a theory but its one based on the facts we have. I could be wrong or partly right.
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
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His entire arm and half his face have turned into what looks like a giant, purple tumor. How can it not be painful? Also unless his body stabilizes somehow, the mutation is not going to stop there.HeroR wrote:His mutation putting him in constant pain. He doesn't look in pain. He just looks insane.Lord Frieza wrote:
Which part?
Him being strong? In the preview Vegito has battle damage and cant restrain Zamasu by force, two things that have never happend to Goku/Vegeta Fusion before.
His mutation? Well take just one long look at him. Its clear that for some reason his body is unstable and something like that should kill him. But he has immortality so he cannot die.
The suffering? Just look at him again. How can something like that not be painful and theres no reason to assume he's suddenly going to get better. So eternal suffering.
I'll admit its just a theory but its one based on the facts we have. I could be wrong or partly right.
If thats not enough to drive someone insane I don't know what is. Unless its caused by his shattered vanity and its certainly not due to any loss in power.
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Re: Is Merged Zamasu getting weaker?
Merged Zamasu looks in the NEP is like Two-Face. I am guessing that Merged Zamasu is not fully inmortal, and hence one half of it's body is indeed getting damaged while the other is not.
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marcbret87 wrote:Merged Zamasu looks in the NEP is like Two-Face. I am guessing that Merged Zamasu is not fully inmortal, and hence one half of it's body is indeed getting damaged while the other is not.
That's an interesting theory...I remember when Dead Vegeta merged with alive Goku. It made Vegetto fully alive not half dead though.
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Re: Is Merged Zamasu getting weaker?
I'm think perhaps mixing an immortal soul with a mortal soul is something that goes against the laws of the universe, and as a result, Zamasu's body is decomposing. Kinda like mix two elements and getting a chemical reaction that looks appealing at first but then starts to slow degrade over time as them elements in the compound denature.
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One problem with the theory though, Black is Fused Zamasu's left side, not his right.MagmonKai wrote:marcbret87 wrote:Merged Zamasu looks in the NEP is like Two-Face. I am guessing that Merged Zamasu is not fully inmortal, and hence one half of it's body is indeed getting damaged while the other is not.
That's an interesting theory...I remember when Dead Vegeta merged with alive Goku. It made Vegetto fully alive not half dead though.
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OMG dragon ball super is Steven Universe!!!!!!!! Zamasu's pride was shattered by Goku destroying his halo, he's so full of himself that he cannot believe that a mortal could do that to not any god, but the ultimate inmortal god, so he's getting insane, unastable, HE'S CORRUPTING LIKE A GEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!Lord Frieza wrote:Which part?HeroR wrote:What are you basing this on?Lord Frieza wrote:Well I would have to say no. If you watch the next episode Vegito is clearly having trouble with Zamasu despite his mutation/degradation.
I think that what evers causing it, it should be fatal but his immortality is forcing his body exist is spite of that fact. His body is caught in a state of perpetual degradation and regeneration. His ever increasing power probably dose not help ether. As his power keeps rising his mutation might start getting even worse! This might be worse the what happened to Garlic Jr, he was only sealed away. Zamasu has been effectively cured to life in agony for eternity!
Him being strong? In the preview Vegito has battle damage and cant restrain Zamasu by force, two things that have never happend to Goku/Vegeta Fusion before.
His mutation? Well take just one long look at him. Its clear that for some reason his body is unstable and something like that should kill him. But he has immortality so he cannot die.
The suffering? Just look at him again. How can something like that not be painful and theres no reason to assume he's suddenly going to get better. So eternal suffering.
I'll admit its just a theory but its one based on the facts we have. I could be wrong or partly right.
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Re: Is Merged Zamasu getting weaker?
We have no idea if he's getting weaker, that half Bio Broly looking arm could be some kind of power up.
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I'd like for reasons A-D to be the reason.fadeddreams5 wrote:Zamasu's body is caving in on itself.
This could be because...
a) Like you mentioned, they fused while Goku Black was a SSJR. The writers would need attention to detail for this to be the case though.
b) Zamasu fused with a body that had a soul that didn't belong to it.
c) The same people fused with each other, creating a horrible instability, as they shouldn't exist in the same timeline together.
d) He's just too strong. Immortality + ever increasing power might be too much for one body to handle.
e) I'm wrong and Vegito (or someone else) basically kicks the immortality out of Zamasu, forcing him to start melting. This fits Super's logic the most.
As of this week's ep, I can honestly say I haven't been this on edge about a Dragon Ball fight since Frieza (and maybe Omega Shenron.)Lord Frieza wrote:Well I would have to say no. If you watch the next episode Vegito is clearly having trouble with Zamasu despite his mutation/degradation.
I think that what evers causing it, it should be fatal but his immortality is forcing his body exist is spite of that fact. His body is caught in a state of perpetual degradation and regeneration. His ever increasing power probably dose not help ether. As his power keeps rising his mutation might start getting even worse! This might be worse the what happened to Garlic Jr, he was only sealed away. Zamasu has been effectively cured to life in agony for eternity!
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The only remotely similar pattern seen with this purplish substance began when Zamasu's regenerative ability emitted a sizzling gas of familiar colouring. My suspicion is that it has something to do with his regeneration. Somehow it's becoming dysfunctional over the course of the fight. Could it have to do with Vegetto's power?
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If we go by the preview, then he definitely seems to be getting stronger. There is a part where he blows Vegetto away while powering up.
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Pretty clear from the short summary that Goku destroying that ring of light is the cause for his mutation.
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It could be that he is turning into a demon, his heart has become corrupted and his "justice" is rapidly turning into hate. That corruption is starting to show physically. Now he doesn't want to kill humans because of justice, he wants to kill them because he hates them. He's turning genuinely evil and becoming a fallen angel or demon. He now belongs in the demon world, where Dabura comes from.
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Weren't they spinning around each other when they fused? Anyway, it's just a guess because only one half of the body seems affected whereas the other is allrightLord Frieza wrote:One problem with the theory though, Black is Fused Zamasu's left side, not his right.MagmonKai wrote:marcbret87 wrote:Merged Zamasu looks in the NEP is like Two-Face. I am guessing that Merged Zamasu is not fully inmortal, and hence one half of it's body is indeed getting damaged while the other is not.
That's an interesting theory...I remember when Dead Vegeta merged with alive Goku. It made Vegetto fully alive not half dead though.
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I am pretty sure that Vegitto is damaging him so fast that his body can't keep up.
We saw purple-masu face when Goku blast him and his head blown up
We saw purple-masu face when Goku blast him and his head blown up