The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Angelus]

Here's my own versus:

Salza, Dore, and Neiz VS Piccolo (No weighted-clothing), Vegeta, Gohan, Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu (all during Mecha Frieza's arrival on Earth)
[This means no armor for Vegeta. Let's disable Kienzan, Tribeam, and Paralysis for this match too]


but I got this versus from another person but yeah here it is, copy-pasted and all:

Master Mutaito, Young Roshi, and Young Crane Hermit VS Old King Piccolo





VERSUS

A life-or-death battle between the martial arts masters and King Piccolo in a weaker state. I understand Mutaito and the Crane Hermit have virtually no feats so what they demonstrated in the anime is permissible. However, Mutaito's power is not illogically greater than post-KP arc Goku's. This is only in relation to the technical abilities and moves of his fighting style. If you're not familiar with their powers then here are some gifs of their anime-exclusive feats.


Master Mutaito

[spoiler]Fighting Goku



Cutting a waterfall in half

[/spoiler]


Crane Hermit

[spoiler]Knocking Fanfan unconscious



Kicking Roshi to the ground



Fighting Goku



Crane and Roshi battling against King Piccolo's spawn with other martial artists



Repelling Ki attacks with Roshi



Still images of Crane sparring with Tao



Catching bullets from a sub-machine gun



Trying to assassinate Goku



Fighting Goku and Krillin



Blocking and countering Launch's covert assault

[/spoiler]


These are pretty much all of their notable feats, I believe. Restrictions are the Mafuba, Kamehameha as it wasn't invented yet, and the Crane style techniques. The battlefield is where Goku encountered Old King Piccolo. Who do you think wins?

Scenario 2: Old King Piccolo has Tambourine, Cymbal, and Drum for reinforcements.

Scenario 3: Exhausted Young King Piccolo, after destroying the capital city, is fighting alone against the trio of martial artists.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Here's my own versus:

Salza, Dore, and Neiz VS Piccolo (No weighted-clothing), Vegeta, Gohan, Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu (all during Mecha Frieza's arrival on Earth)
[This means no armor for Vegeta. Let's disable Kienzan, Tribeam, and Paralysis for this match too]


but I got this versus from another person but yeah here it is, copy-pasted and all:

Master Mutaito, Young Roshi, and Young Crane Hermit VS Old King Piccolo





VERSUS

A life-or-death battle between the martial arts masters and King Piccolo in a weaker state. I understand Mutaito and the Crane Hermit have virtually no feats so what they demonstrated in the anime is permissible. However, Mutaito's power is not illogically greater than post-KP arc Goku's. This is only in relation to the technical abilities and moves of his fighting style. If you're not familiar with their powers then here are some gifs of their anime-exclusive feats.


Master Mutaito

[spoiler]Fighting Goku



Cutting a waterfall in half

[/spoiler]


Crane Hermit

[spoiler]Knocking Fanfan unconscious



Kicking Roshi to the ground



Fighting Goku



Crane and Roshi battling against King Piccolo's spawn with other martial artists



Repelling Ki attacks with Roshi



Still images of Crane sparring with Tao



Catching bullets from a sub-machine gun



Trying to assassinate Goku



Fighting Goku and Krillin



Blocking and countering Launch's covert assault

[/spoiler]


These are pretty much all of their notable feats, I believe. Restrictions are the Mafuba, Kamehameha as it wasn't invented yet, and the Crane style techniques. The battlefield is where Goku encountered Old King Piccolo. Who do you think wins?

Scenario 2: Old King Piccolo has Tambourine, Cymbal, and Drum for reinforcements.

Scenario 3: Exhausted Young King Piccolo, after destroying the capital city, is fighting alone against the trio of martial artists.

-Piccolo and Vegeta take this without too much difficulty.

- Piccolo wins fairly easily in all 3 scenarios, he's just too much for the trio to handle.

[Roronoa-pt]

KKx10 SSJB Goku vs Zamasu Black

Goku will break his body for good if he uses the Kaioken at this stage. As I see it, he didn't fully recover from the strain against Hit and would lose his capability to manage KI if he tries to use the technique. But even if the could use the Kaioken, he would be wrecked by Zamack.

I've got one: Ginyu/Tagoma vs. Frost

Frost was definetly stronger than Piccolo, who was seen to be similiar to Gohan, who definetly regained mostly if not all of his Mystic powers. SSJ Gohan ( without any training ) was way stronger than Ginyu Tagoma. I'd say Frost destroys him.

[apex_pretador]

I'm proposing a match and answering it myself, so as to let you guys see my logic here. Spoilers!
[spoiler]Super Saiyan Blue Vegetto (Zamasu Arc) VS 100% Beerus
In Resurrection 'F', so before the training for the Universe 6/7 tournament, and before the training throughout the Zamasu Arc, Whis stated that if Goku and Vegeta worked together, they could go toe-to-toe with Beerus. Obviously, this strongly implies teamwork, but it also implies strength. If they fused into SSJB Gogeta right then, they would be nearly (if not exactly) on par with Beerus, right? Then imagine if they used Potara and fused into SSJB Vegetto. Take that level of power, which should be above Beerus, and put that into the Zamasu Arc (which, SPOILERS, is going to be in the next episode). If we put together all this logic, we get the current SSJB Vegetto well above Beerus' level in strength and overall, as Vegetto would utilize the combined skill of Goku and Vegeta.

If you're going to argue, please use actual logic and a Spoiler tag, just to be safe. This thread is In-Universe, not Dragon Ball Super. [/spoiler]

Beerus

[spoiler]The line that they can "stalemate" beerus was only in movie, where beerus was 10 compared to SSG being 6. As of current, U6 goku with kaioken x10 is nothing to beerus.

Beerus has come close to destroying the universe evertime he fought, but I don't think vegetto - Zamasu battle is going to be anywhere near that. Until Vegetto shows something which rivals beerus, I'm betting on purple cat.
All we know about beerus is - SSG is a good fight for him when he is significantly holding back.[/spoiler]

[TheUltimateNinja]

I'm proposing a match and answering it myself, so as to let you guys see my logic here. Spoilers!
[spoiler]Super Saiyan Blue Vegetto (Zamasu Arc) VS 100% Beerus
In Resurrection 'F', so before the training for the Universe 6/7 tournament, and before the training throughout the Zamasu Arc, Whis stated that if Goku and Vegeta worked together, they could go toe-to-toe with Beerus. Obviously, this strongly implies teamwork, but it also implies strength. If they fused into SSJB Gogeta right then, they would be nearly (if not exactly) on par with Beerus, right? Then imagine if they used Potara and fused into SSJB Vegetto. Take that level of power, which should be above Beerus, and put that into the Zamasu Arc (which, SPOILERS, is going to be in the next episode). If we put together all this logic, we get the current SSJB Vegetto well above Beerus' level in strength and overall, as Vegetto would utilize the combined skill of Goku and Vegeta.

If you're going to argue, please use actual logic and a Spoiler tag, just to be safe. This thread is In-Universe, not Dragon Ball Super. [/spoiler]

Beerus

[spoiler]The line that they can "stalemate" beerus was only in movie, where beerus was 10 compared to SSG being 6. As of current, U6 goku with kaioken x10 is nothing to beerus.

Beerus has come close to destroying the universe evertime he fought, but I don't think vegetto - Zamasu battle is going to be anywhere near that. Until Vegetto shows something which rivals beerus, I'm betting on purple cat.
All we know about beerus is - SSG is a good fight for him when he is significantly holding back.[/spoiler]

Beerus is probably a joke to Vegetto.

[apex_pretador]

I'm proposing a match and answering it myself, so as to let you guys see my logic here. Spoilers!
[spoiler]Super Saiyan Blue Vegetto (Zamasu Arc) VS 100% Beerus
In Resurrection 'F', so before the training for the Universe 6/7 tournament, and before the training throughout the Zamasu Arc, Whis stated that if Goku and Vegeta worked together, they could go toe-to-toe with Beerus. Obviously, this strongly implies teamwork, but it also implies strength. If they fused into SSJB Gogeta right then, they would be nearly (if not exactly) on par with Beerus, right? Then imagine if they used Potara and fused into SSJB Vegetto. Take that level of power, which should be above Beerus, and put that into the Zamasu Arc (which, SPOILERS, is going to be in the next episode). If we put together all this logic, we get the current SSJB Vegetto well above Beerus' level in strength and overall, as Vegetto would utilize the combined skill of Goku and Vegeta.

If you're going to argue, please use actual logic and a Spoiler tag, just to be safe. This thread is In-Universe, not Dragon Ball Super. [/spoiler]

Beerus

[spoiler]The line that they can "stalemate" beerus was only in movie, where beerus was 10 compared to SSG being 6. As of current, U6 goku with kaioken x10 is nothing to beerus.

Beerus has come close to destroying the universe evertime he fought, but I don't think vegetto - Zamasu battle is going to be anywhere near that. Until Vegetto shows something which rivals beerus, I'm betting on purple cat.
All we know about beerus is - SSG is a good fight for him when he is significantly holding back.[/spoiler]

Beerus is probably a joke to Vegetto.

Or the reverse.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Beerus

[spoiler]The line that they can "stalemate" beerus was only in movie, where beerus was 10 compared to SSG being 6. As of current, U6 goku with kaioken x10 is nothing to beerus.

Beerus has come close to destroying the universe evertime he fought, but I don't think vegetto - Zamasu battle is going to be anywhere near that. Until Vegetto shows something which rivals beerus, I'm betting on purple cat.
All we know about beerus is - SSG is a good fight for him when he is significantly holding back.[/spoiler]

Beerus is probably a joke to Vegetto.

Or the reverse.

If the multiplier Goku and Vegeta get from Potara fusion is anywhere close to what they got in the Buu Arc Beerus should be nothing to them.

[Steven Bloodriver]

Beerus is probably a joke to Vegetto.

Or the reverse.

If the multiplier Goku and Vegeta get from Potara fusion is anywhere close to what they got in the Buu Arc Beerus should be nothing to them.

1) Super Trunks (Dragon Ball GT counterpart from the Super 17 Saga) vs. Super 17.

2) Super Trunks (Dragon Ball Super) vs. Final Form Mira.

[Zamasu55]

Base form Frieza (post training) stomped Ssj Gohan (as strong as Ultimate Gohan). This puts him at Buuhan level at least. His final form rivals Goku's Beyond God state, which is far above Ssj3 Vegito (BOG).

Er... No. Gohan was stated to be way weaker than before, needing to transform into SSJ to reach his full power that should be still below his peak in Boo Arc.

This makes no sense, as Tagoma was definitely stronger than Perfect Cell and was on par with Base Gohan.
Ssj Gohan >> Ginyu > Tagoma = Base Gohan.

[Zamasu55]

KKx10 SSJB Goku vs Zamasu Black

Merged Zamasu has definitely surpassed both Hit and Goku. He wins.

[Zamasu55]

I've got one: Ginyu/Tagoma vs. Frost

Final form Frost takes this.

[TheUltimateNinja]

1) Super Trunks (Dragon Ball GT counterpart from the Super 17 Saga) vs. Super 17.

2) Super Trunks (Dragon Ball Super) vs. Final Form Mira.

Super Trunks easily takes both.

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) Super Trunks (Dragon Ball GT counterpart from the Super 17 Saga) vs. Super 17.

2) Super Trunks (Dragon Ball Super) vs. Final Form Mira.

Super Trunks easily takes both.

1) Super Vegito (Future Trunks Saga) vs. Golden Frieza.

2) Super Gogeta (Trunks Saga) vs. Meta-Cooler.

[TheUltimateNinja]

1) Super Vegito (Future Trunks Saga) vs. Golden Frieza.

2) Super Gogeta (Trunks Saga) vs. Meta-Cooler.

1) Even Buu Arc Vegetto gets stomped easily, Frieza wins effortlessly.

2) Gogeta oneshots Meta-Cooler. He could even go toe to toe with the whole army but he wouldn't be able to take them all out in time before his fusion runs out.

[Zamasu55]

Or the reverse.

If the multiplier Goku and Vegeta get from Potara fusion is anywhere close to what they got in the Buu Arc Beerus should be nothing to them.

1) Super Trunks (Dragon Ball GT counterpart from the Super 17 Saga) vs. Super 17.

2) Super Trunks (Dragon Ball Super) vs. Final Form Mira.

1. No clue.
2. Final form Mira is stronger than Golden Frieza, but definetely weaker than SsjB Goku and SsjB Vegita (Black Goku saga). Super Trunks takes this,

[DanielSSJ]

1) Super Trunks (Dragon Ball GT counterpart from the Super 17 Saga) vs. Super 17.

2) Super Trunks (Dragon Ball Super) vs. Final Form Mira.

Super Trunks easily takes both.

Could you expand on your reasoning, please.

[ahill1]

Android #19 (post absorptions) vs Android #20 (pre absorptions)

[DanielSSJ]

Here's a match-up that I'm curious about:

Saiyan Arc Chiaotzu vs. Raditz

Based on the official battle powers, Chiaotzu is a lot weaker than Raditz, but would his superior Ki control and telekinesis allow him to gain the upper hand? Please take your time to explain your position properly when you answer.

[In Brightest Day]

Here's a match-up that I'm curious about:

Saiyan Arc Chiaotzu vs. Raditz

Based on the official battle powers, Chiaotzu is a lot weaker than Raditz, but would his superior Ki control and telekinesis allow him to gain the upper hand? Please take your time to explain your position properly when you answer.

Chaozu's psychic powers are undoubtedly potent and he has proven himself as a competent hand-to-hand fighter, at least. Chaozu always struggled to keep up with his fellow human contemporaries, and he is an idiot when it comes to strategy. Raditz, for all his faults, has a substantial power advantage and has shown he's willing to pull every dirty trick in the book, which includes manipulating gullible idiots. I'm going with Raditz, although not without difficulty.

Put Tien, Krillin or Yamcha during the Saiyan arc up against Raditz though and the humans win 9 times out 10.

[TheUltimateNinja]

1) Super Trunks (Dragon Ball GT counterpart from the Super 17 Saga) vs. Super 17.

2) Super Trunks (Dragon Ball Super) vs. Final Form Mira.

Super Trunks easily takes both.

Could you expand on your reasoning, please.

Super Trunks is a form nearly on par with SSBlue, it far surpasses most things we see in GT which generally provide multipliers of only a few hundred, perhaps thousands at most. Also, XV's powerscaling is fairly nonsensical but I still feel confident in saying that most characters would stand no chance against Super Trunks.