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It might not be intentional, but your latter half phrasing seems to borrow from this post. I was reminded of it after my first reading. That's not a mark against you, by the way. Opinions can melt on occasion.[/quote]Nejishiki wrote:
note: I didn't create this pictures, they were used for comparison, all credit goes to the original creators of the picture.
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
OH MY GODArchedThunder wrote:From Kagari on GAFJinzoningen MULE wrote:I can't read this, and the online translators are only giving me gobbledy-gook, but this definitely mentions something about Yamamuro, and seemingly mentions the upcoming episode.
[spoiler][/spoiler]
Otsuka retweeted this, so I'm fairly sure it's legitimate. Anyone able to translate?
"Animedia's December issue, due out November 10: Dragon Ball Super's "Future Trunks" arc finally reaches its climax with Vegito & Trunks vs. Zamasu drawn in a fierce battle by Yamamuro Tadayoshi. The battle commentary by Producer Kido(?) is also a must see."
I don't know if they're saying that Yamamuro is doing animation or if they are just talking about the image.
You have your rights regarding preference.HeroR wrote:Am I a bad person if I prefer the newer style?
It's only when everyone discusses technicalities when certain stances may be invalid. I can support visual spectacle over detailed accuracy, but it's not as if neither can't have their place. It's best to read intent, in animated scenes, to determine its proper context.
Ohhh. I didn't even know i was just looking up comparison shots. Those are just things i picked up on. If it matters, i apologize if it seems like I'm plagiarizingNejishiki wrote:It might not be intentional, but your latter half phrasing seems to borrow from this post. I was reminded of it after my first reading. That's not a mark against you, by the way. Opinions can melt on occasion.Y3llowflash200 wrote:I Agree, Yamamuro's designs are anything but expressive. For what Z lacked in animation, it made up for in art. Dragonballs art was always a pleasure to look at. The shading gave the faces depth, the face was so much more expressive hell, even the ears looked better because they were actually formed. As a person that loves art, Yamamuros designs are so lifeless and boring. The characters look like they were dipped into a pot of Vaseline, the faces for characters are so puffy, it looked they all tried the chubby bunny challenge.
Here's some comparison shots. that truly outline how bad yamamuros designs are.
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This image shows the difference, and how yamamuro has backtracked. The first image from the history of trunk conveys so much emotion, you can tell trunk is angry. His fist tightly squeezed whereas, the image from episode of Bardock looks like his barley clinching his fist.
DBZ original
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From this image, you can tell the shading adds depth, the Adams apple is going the way it should be and the facial features aren't all over the place with thing being significantly smaller than the other
New art style
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This image shows everything wrong with the new character designs.The faces are way too wide, the eyes are asymmetrical, the shading is all over the place, the nose, is too straight, one of the ears are smaller than the other.
Yamamuro's current designs has lost what made dragonball so great.
note: I didn't create this pictures, they were used for comparison, all credit goes to the original creators of the picture.
It's fine. Like I mentioned, opinions can melt into each other. There's so many ways to discover the same thing. It was just interesting how that echoed. It's strange I even recall that post.Y3llowflash200 wrote:Ohhh. I didn't even know i was just looking up comparison shots. Those are just things i picked up on. If it matters, i apologize if it seems like I'm plagiarizing
We have some of the best already working on this coming episode, people far more talented than him. Yamamuro's habit of correcting things would be awful here. If in fact, that is his role, which I doubt. I do want Yamamuro back, but only on episodes with enough of stills, heavier than normal dialogue, and maybe a few action scenes, as well as correcting the less talented of the animators. It would help keep consistent artwork, as well as an improved schedule.JazzMazz wrote:OH MY GODArchedThunder wrote:From Kagari on GAFJinzoningen MULE wrote:I can't read this, and the online translators are only giving me gobbledy-gook, but this definitely mentions something about Yamamuro, and seemingly mentions the upcoming episode.
[spoiler]
Otsuka retweeted this, so I'm fairly sure it's legitimate. Anyone able to translate?
"Animedia's December issue, due out November 10: Dragon Ball Super's "Future Trunks" arc finally reaches its climax with Vegito & Trunks vs. Zamasu drawn in a fierce battle by Yamamuro Tadayoshi. The battle commentary by Producer Kido(?) is also a must see."
I don't know if they're saying that Yamamuro is doing animation or if they are just talking about the image.
Well, by the sounds of it, his actually going to be doing something, I hope he actually appears. At the very least he will produce something that will help maintain the consistency of the episode. Hopefully
(Or it could just be the image in which case I am very disappointed)
I did check that post. wow, it's kinda creepy, how we did use the same pictures. those were just really good camparison. But you do get my point about yamamuro's Vaseline men.Nejishiki wrote:It's fine. Like I mentioned, opinions can melt into each other. There's so many ways to discover the same thing. It was just interesting how that echoed. It's strange I even recall that post.Y3llowflash200 wrote:Ohhh. I didn't even know i was just looking up comparison shots. Those are just things i picked up on. If it matters, i apologize if it seems like I'm plagiarizing
ArchedThunder wrote:From Kagari on GAFJinzoningen MULE wrote:I can't read this, and the online translators are only giving me gobbledy-gook, but this definitely mentions something about Yamamuro, and seemingly mentions the upcoming episode.
[spoiler]
Otsuka retweeted this, so I'm fairly sure it's legitimate. Anyone able to translate?
"Animedia's December issue, due out November 10: Dragon Ball Super's "Future Trunks" arc finally reaches its climax with Vegito & Trunks vs. Zamasu drawn in a fierce battle by Yamamuro Tadayoshi. The battle commentary by Producer Kido(?) is also a must see."
I don't know if they're saying that Yamamuro is doing animation or if they are just talking about the image.
I totally agree with your comment but I don't think that Yamamuro is less talented than any of the Super animators. To be honest Shimanuki is still at his 70% dbz self and Shida won't give something extreme. When it comes to talent I can't rank the "top dogs" since most of them have pros and cons. In my book Yamamuro/Shimanuki/Shida/Tate(I don't know why I am mentioning him since he is not in the episode but ow well) have areas that allow them to show their skills and weak points.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:We have some of the best already working on this coming episode, people far more talented than him. Yamamuro's habit of correcting things would be awful here. If in fact, that is his role, which I doubt. I do want Yamamuro back, but only on episodes with enough of stills, heavier than normal dialogue, and maybe a few action scenes, as well as correcting the less talented of the animators. It would help keep consistent artwork, as well as an improved schedule.
Yeah I agree with you on that, I think if the fight goes on to the next episode I wouldn't mind if he stepped in and tidied things up since everyones going to try look like him anyway. In truth I just want the animator that is called the "best dragonball animator" to actually animate in the series he did the character designs for.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:We have some of the best already working on this coming episode, people far more talented than him. Yamamuro's habit of correcting things would be awful here. If in fact, that is his role, which I doubt. I do want Yamamuro back, but only on episodes with enough of stills, heavier than normal dialogue, and maybe a few action scenes, as well as correcting the less talented of the animators. It would help keep consistent artwork, as well as an improved schedule.JazzMazz wrote:OH MY GODArchedThunder wrote: From Kagari on GAF
"Animedia's December issue, due out November 10: Dragon Ball Super's "Future Trunks" arc finally reaches its climax with Vegito & Trunks vs. Zamasu drawn in a fierce battle by Yamamuro Tadayoshi. The battle commentary by Producer Kido(?) is also a must see."
I don't know if they're saying that Yamamuro is doing animation or if they are just talking about the image.
Well, by the sounds of it, his actually going to be doing something, I hope he actually appears. At the very least he will produce something that will help maintain the consistency of the episode. Hopefully
(Or it could just be the image in which case I am very disappointed)
When I'm referring to the less talented, I'm talking more about the solo animators with ugly styles. Whoever was in charge of Episode 54, or 60, that's what I'm thinking of.Mazingerdestro wrote:ArchedThunder wrote:From Kagari on GAFJinzoningen MULE wrote:I can't read this, and the online translators are only giving me gobbledy-gook, but this definitely mentions something about Yamamuro, and seemingly mentions the upcoming episode.
[spoiler]
Otsuka retweeted this, so I'm fairly sure it's legitimate. Anyone able to translate?
"Animedia's December issue, due out November 10: Dragon Ball Super's "Future Trunks" arc finally reaches its climax with Vegito & Trunks vs. Zamasu drawn in a fierce battle by Yamamuro Tadayoshi. The battle commentary by Producer Kido(?) is also a must see."
I don't know if they're saying that Yamamuro is doing animation or if they are just talking about the image.
WOW WHAT?>???? Does this imply that Yamamuro will do some uncredited corrections? Well it is the climax so it is quite possible
I totally agree with your comment but I don't think that Yamamuro is less talented than any of the Super animators. To be honest Shimanuki is still at his 70% dbz self and Shida won't give something extreme. When it comes to talent I can't rank the "top dogs" since most of them have pros and cons. In my book Yamamuro/Shimanuki/Shida/Tate(I don't know why I am mentioning him since he is not in the episode but ow well) have areas that allow them to show their skills and weak points.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:We have some of the best already working on this coming episode, people far more talented than him. Yamamuro's habit of correcting things would be awful here. If in fact, that is his role, which I doubt. I do want Yamamuro back, but only on episodes with enough of stills, heavier than normal dialogue, and maybe a few action scenes, as well as correcting the less talented of the animators. It would help keep consistent artwork, as well as an improved schedule.
Shimanuki: Give him time and he gives miracles. Don't give him time and he will draw every jaw as a potato. His biggest weakness is the lack of an impact in fighting scenes.
Tate: Give him a pen and paper and he can make the heroes move like crazy and unpredictable. Don't give him time and he will do the same but the characters will look weird.
Shida: Give him time and BOOOOM, animation madness. Don't give him time and he will provide quality but will sacrifice shading, detail, etc.
Yamamuro: Give him time or give him less time and he will deliver good art. However, unlike the others he will probably never go crazy with animation.
Between these 4 I think Shimanuki is the worse case scenario and Shida/Yamamuro the safest bets.
Yeah don't worry!!!Jinzoningen MULE wrote:When I'm referring to the less talented, I'm talking more about the solo animators with ugly styles. Whoever was in charge of Episode 54, or 60, that's what I'm thinking of.
So this is it then #66 is the finale? I also think it's just talking about the picture.ArchedThunder wrote:From Kagari on GAFJinzoningen MULE wrote:I can't read this, and the online translators are only giving me gobbledy-gook, but this definitely mentions something about Yamamuro, and seemingly mentions the upcoming episode.
[spoiler]
Otsuka retweeted this, so I'm fairly sure it's legitimate. Anyone able to translate?
"Animedia's December issue, due out November 10: Dragon Ball Super's "Future Trunks" arc finally reaches its climax with Vegito & Trunks vs. Zamasu drawn in a fierce battle by Yamamuro Tadayoshi. The battle commentary by Producer Kido(?) is also a must see."
I don't know if they're saying that Yamamuro is doing animation or if they are just talking about the image.
Dont worry, ep 66 cannot be the finale. Most likely ep 68 will be the final episode.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:So this is it then #66 is the finale? I also think it's just talking about the picture.ArchedThunder wrote:From Kagari on GAFJinzoningen MULE wrote:I can't read this, and the online translators are only giving me gobbledy-gook, but this definitely mentions something about Yamamuro, and seemingly mentions the upcoming episode.
[spoiler]
Otsuka retweeted this, so I'm fairly sure it's legitimate. Anyone able to translate?
"Animedia's December issue, due out November 10: Dragon Ball Super's "Future Trunks" arc finally reaches its climax with Vegito & Trunks vs. Zamasu drawn in a fierce battle by Yamamuro Tadayoshi. The battle commentary by Producer Kido(?) is also a must see."
I don't know if they're saying that Yamamuro is doing animation or if they are just talking about the image.
Well, Yamamuro is still alive and well. And he certainly chose one hell of an episode to make a comeback to Super.ArchedThunder wrote:From Kagari on GAFJinzoningen MULE wrote:I can't read this, and the online translators are only giving me gobbledy-gook, but this definitely mentions something about Yamamuro, and seemingly mentions the upcoming episode.
[spoiler]
Otsuka retweeted this, so I'm fairly sure it's legitimate. Anyone able to translate?
"Animedia's December issue, due out November 10: Dragon Ball Super's "Future Trunks" arc finally reaches its climax with Vegito & Trunks vs. Zamasu drawn in a fierce battle by Yamamuro Tadayoshi. The battle commentary by Producer Kido(?) is also a must see."
I don't know if they're saying that Yamamuro is doing animation or if they are just talking about the image.
Not at all, because I do too!HeroR wrote:Am I a bad person if I prefer the newer style?
... okay, let me phrase this differently. I prefer them as well, so you're not alone.Yes. Tate animated part of Super's opening. Good luck working out which part.Noah wrote:So Yamamuro + Tate would be a bad combination?
Wait really? Wow. Did he do the Goku and Vegeta vs Freeza henchmen bit?Ajay wrote:Yes. Tate animated part of Super's opening. Good luck working out which part.Noah wrote:So Yamamuro + Tate would be a bad combination?
