"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by Bullza » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:36 pm

What's all this about Vegito's weakness?

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Post by SuperRose » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:53 pm

Bullza wrote:What's all this about Vegito's weakness?
same question. I am not a fan tbh about his weakness. SSJB is all about KI and Stamina control

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Post by MozillaVulpix » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:59 pm

Man, I love the idea of Fused Zamasu having a weakness. It's kind of thematic. Or maybe I've just been watching too much Steven Universe, and I keep thinking of fusions like they're Garnet or Malachite.
I could have gotten into anything...and yet I chose the story aimed at young Japanese boys about martial arts, and later about super-powerful aliens punching each other really hard.

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Post by MajinVegetaPD » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:00 pm

SuperRose wrote:
Bullza wrote:What's all this about Vegito's weakness?
same question. I am not a fan tbh about his weakness. SSJB is all about KI and Stamina control
I have a feeling the "weakness" won't have so much to do with power, but with attitude.

I can see Vegito bearing the ugly traits that both Goku and Vegeta can possess at times, which can have an adverse affect on the fight.

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Post by Lujin_16 » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:01 pm

Whis has said many times that Vegetaa & Goku has a weakness so it makes sense

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Post by DbzRyan24 » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:27 pm

Could the weakness merely be their over confidence and attitude when they're fused together?

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Post by Anime Kitten » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:30 pm

DbzRyan24 wrote:Could the weakness merely be their over confidence and attitude when they're fused together?
This is what I'll be expecting. I mean, both Goku's and Vegeta's overconfidence have been touched on before. If they fuse into a single being that contains both of their traits and attributes, and so much raw power, then there'll be a problem present, no doubt.
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Post by MagmonKai » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:39 pm

Sounds to me like another plot device like they did with Beerus being linked to the Kais...another way to cheapen the Vegetto effect to make him either less likely to appear again or show why he isn't completely dominating Merged Zamasu.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:41 pm

Zamasu has a weakness too so essentially both of them are going to hindered. Interesting. It's probably BS to allow Trunks to have his moment.

I'm getting BvS flashbacks. Trunks is Superman sacrificing himself and Vegetto will play the role of WW doing most of the brunt work, Mai will probably play the role of Batman running away but getting that one shot in.

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Post by Sandubadear » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:48 pm

Retarded theory tiem: by fusing with the Potaras and having God ki (SSB), Vegetto automagically became a God of Destruction, who then life linked with Zamasu, so everytime Vegetto hits Zamasu, he is also damaged (this is the weakness).
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Post by Legion » Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:11 pm

MajinVegetaPD wrote:
SuperRose wrote:
Bullza wrote:What's all this about Vegito's weakness?
same question. I am not a fan tbh about his weakness. SSJB is all about KI and Stamina control
I have a feeling the "weakness" won't have so much to do with power, but with attitude.

I can see Vegito bearing the ugly traits that both Goku and Vegeta can possess at times, which can have an adverse affect on the fight.
In the preview Vegetto is really serious and he doesn't seem much superior than Zamasu. :think:

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Post by Kanassa » Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:26 pm

Sandubadear wrote:Retarded theory tiem: by fusing with the Potaras and having God ki (SSB), Vegetto automagically became a God of Destruction, who then life linked with Zamasu, so everytime Vegetto hits Zamasu, he is also damaged (this is the weakness).
Actually, earlier in the arc, didn't Zamasu temporarily become a supreme kai when Gowasu gave him a single potora earring?
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Post by Lord Frieza » Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:38 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Sandubadear wrote:Retarded theory tiem: by fusing with the Potaras and having God ki (SSB), Vegetto automagically became a God of Destruction, who then life linked with Zamasu, so everytime Vegetto hits Zamasu, he is also damaged (this is the weakness).
Actually, earlier in the arc, didn't Zamasu temporarily become a supreme kai when Gowasu gave him a single potora earring?
I dont think so, the earring is something given to kaioshin as part of their rank, not something that makes them a kaioshin.

Since, as far as we know, the God of Destruction of Universe 10 is dead in both Black's original timeline and Trunks's, that would mean he died when Gowasu did.

That means that Zamasu was never considered a kaioshin in any capacity. The must likely be some process he would have to undergo to official become one.

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Post by Sandubadear » Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:45 pm

Lord Frieza wrote:That means that Zamasu was never considered a kaioshin in any capacity. The must likely be some process he would have to undergo to official become one.
I think that the fact that the Potara glowed when he put it in his ear, and him being able to use the Time Ring makes him a proper Kaioshin, but who knows.
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Post by Helios518 » Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:54 pm

Sandubadear wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:That means that Zamasu was never considered a kaioshin in any capacity. The must likely be some process he would have to undergo to official become one.
I think that the fact that the Potara glowed when he put it in his ear, and him being able to use the Time Ring makes him a proper Kaioshin, but who knows.
They're specifically referring to the moment where Gowasu was about to give Zamasu the earring himself not when they killed Gowasu.
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Post by Lord Frieza » Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:58 pm

Helios518 wrote:
Sandubadear wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:That means that Zamasu was never considered a kaioshin in any capacity. The must likely be some process he would have to undergo to official become one.
I think that the fact that the Potara glowed when he put it in his ear, and him being able to use the Time Ring makes him a proper Kaioshin, but who knows.
They're specifically referring to the moment where Gowasu was about to give Zamasu the earring himself not when they killed Gowasu.
Thats like saying that just because I get to go vip on a plan with my superiors or them lending me one of their "special" pens makes me one of them.

If putting a bloody earing on is enough to official make Zamasu a kaiosin then he and Black have both been ones since the arc started.

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Post by Helios518 » Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:00 pm

Lord Frieza wrote:
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Sandubadear wrote: I think that the fact that the Potara glowed when he put it in his ear, and him being able to use the Time Ring makes him a proper Kaioshin, but who knows.
They're specifically referring to the moment where Gowasu was about to give Zamasu the earring himself not when they killed Gowasu.
Thats like saying that just because I get to go vip on a plan with my superiors or them lending me one of their "special" pens makes me one of them.

If putting a bloody earing on is enough to official make Zamasu a kaiosin then he and Black have both been ones since the arc started and the God of destruction of Universe 10 has been alive this whole time.
I don't believe Present Zamasu ever became Kaioshin nor did I imply it.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:01 pm

Gowasu pretty bluntly said that he was temporarily promoting Zamasu to a full Kaioshin when he lent Zamasu the Potara. So it seems, technically, it really is as simple as having the proper ear bling. I suppose the idea is that only the Shinjin who would be becoming Kaioshin should have access to them anyway, so why not make it that easy?
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Post by Avok » Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:06 pm

I pray it's true and Trunks plays a role in the final battle.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:08 pm

Helios518 wrote:I don't believe Present Zamasu ever became Kaioshin nor did I imply it.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Gowasu pretty bluntly said that he was temporarily promoting Zamasu to a full Kaioshin when he lent Zamasu the Potara. So it seems, technically, it really is as simple as having a proper ear bling. I suppose the idea is that only the Shinjin who would be becoming Kaioshin should have access to them anyway, so why not make it that easy?
Fare enough but that seems very, very biased considering all the rules and limitations placed on the Hakioshin.

Beerus alone has Whis constantly looking over his shoulder, has to sleep for years on end, has none of the benefits the kaioshin get (teleportation, the ability to see whats going on anywhere in the universe, time rings etc) and has his life tied to the kaioshin so if they all die, so dose he. And when it all comes down to it, it's a bloody Kaioshin-in-Training that has almost single handedly conquered the multiverse!

Those rule had better be changed after all the crap Zamasu has pulled comes to light.
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