Would you like it if GT characters were brought into the 12-Universe Tourney?

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Re: Would you like it if GT characters were brought into the 12-Universe Tourney?

Post by Freezerbaby » Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:09 pm

I would especially like to see Baby appearing again and know where he stands concerning the power level scale, above ssj3 goku? Boo-gohan? I couldn´t clearly figure it out when watching GT at that time

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Re: Would you like it if GT characters were brought into the 12-Universe Tourney?

Post by Gig » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:06 am

Freezerbaby wrote: The only thing that remains to be explained is, how did they defeat golden freeza ? Since his return to earth has nothing to do with both beerus or god ki being discovered, sorbet and tagoma would have resurrrected him likewise
One may say that due to the "butterfly effect", the simple fact that there is a different timeline, even if starting from a very, very little modification, may result in very big changes on long term, even on far away places. Just think about the planets which have been blown up by Beerus (by himself first, and due to the shockwaves of the BoG) and Vados (searching for the Super Dragon Balls)... a planet destroyed would probably alter the gravity relationships (orbits etc) of its entire solar system.

About Frieza's resurrection, IIRC, due to Beerus and Whis, Goku was not on Earth when Frieza was wished back in pieces. If he was there, he may have sensed his ki (after focusing, when noticing that something was happening, like Piccolo noticed IIRC -haven't checked if it was in the movie only-), teleported there and disposed of him quickly.

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Re: Would you like it if GT characters were brought into the 12-Universe Tourney?

Post by Gig » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:34 am

Freezerbaby wrote:I would especially like to see Baby appearing again and know where he stands concerning the power level scale, above ssj3 goku? Boo-gohan? I couldn´t clearly figure it out when watching GT at that time
Apart from the fact that searching for power level clearness in Super sounds a very hard task (to enjoy this show, you don't have to think about power scale consistency too much)....
Baby's power changed a lot during the series... think about how many different forms he has got from his first apparition to his death.
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Baby#F ... formations
Reading there, it looks like his "Strongest form 2" may be his equivalent to Super Saiyan 3. At that time, he was stronger than SSJ3 Kid Goku (kid Goku is weaker than adult Goku, I don't know how much), but weaker than Golden Ape Goku or SSJ4 Goku.

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Re: Would you like it if GT characters were brought into the 12-Universe Tourney?

Post by Freezerbaby » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:53 am

Gig wrote:
Freezerbaby wrote: The only thing that remains to be explained is, how did they defeat golden freeza ? Since his return to earth has nothing to do with both beerus or god ki being discovered, sorbet and tagoma would have resurrrected him likewise
One may say that due to the "butterfly effect", the simple fact that there is a different timeline, even if starting from a very, very little modification, may result in very big changes on long term, even on far away places. Just think about the planets which have been blown up by Beerus (by himself first, and due to the shockwaves of the BoG) and Vados (searching for the Super Dragon Balls)... a planet destroyed would probably alter the gravity relationships (orbits etc) of its entire solar system.

About Frieza's resurrection, IIRC, due to Beerus and Whis, Goku was not on Earth when Frieza was wished back in pieces. If he was there, he may have sensed his ki (after focusing, when noticing that something was happening, like Piccolo noticed IIRC -haven't checked if it was in the movie only-), teleported there and disposed of him quickly.
Oh I forgot about Goku and Vegeta not being on Earth at that time, so if that was the case I think Vegeta would be the one to disintegrate Freeza´s pieces not Goku, because the later would have allowed Freeza´s henchmen to flee from Earth if he is told that Freeza will be back stronger than ever in a few months.

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Re: Would you like it if GT characters were brought into the 12-Universe Tourney?

Post by Freezerbaby » Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:19 am

Gig wrote:
Freezerbaby wrote:I would especially like to see Baby appearing again and know where he stands concerning the power level scale, above ssj3 goku? Boo-gohan? I couldn´t clearly figure it out when watching GT at that time
Apart from the fact that searching for power level clearness in Super sounds a very hard task (to enjoy this show, you don't have to think about power scale consistency too much)....
Baby's power changed a lot during the series... think about how many different forms he has got from his first apparition to his death.
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Baby#F ... formations
Reading there, it looks like his "Strongest form 2" may be his equivalent to Super Saiyan 3. At that time, he was stronger than SSJ3 Kid Goku (kid Goku is weaker than adult Goku, I don't know how much), but weaker than Golden Ape Goku or SSJ4 Goku.
My biggest doubt is that since Baby can easily overpower Majuub ( at the begining he seems to be playing around and only gauging majuub´s new energy and skills) and I think Majuub should be Super Boo level at least, where Baby would stand regarding DBZ power scale, it´s difficult for that to be addresed at this time though, I can only reason that he may be Mystic Gohan level at the very least.

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