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Post by Noah » Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:47 am

What a great piece of animation! :lol:
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by RealtreeByGod » Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:09 am

Can I watch TFS Gaming right now without having to hear a bunch of political bullshit?

Pre-election everyone was great about keeping their opinions off of anything with the TFS name attached to it, but I'm wondering if anything's changed post now that the entire internet has gone insane.

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Post by VegettoEX » Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:27 am

RealtreeByGod wrote:Can I watch TFS Gaming right now without having to hear a bunch of political bullshit?
These political changes affect us in very real ways moving forward. If you need perfect blind escapism, you need to not interact with other people and/or consume anyone else's content right now.

Good luck with that?
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by RealtreeByGod » Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:00 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
RealtreeByGod wrote:Can I watch TFS Gaming right now without having to hear a bunch of political bullshit?
These political changes affect us in very real ways moving forward. If you need perfect blind escapism, you need to not interact with other people and/or consume anyone else's content right now.

Good luck with that?
I'm sorry, I forgot that Donald Trump is literally Hitler and every piece of media I consume needs to constantly tell me how much of a horrible person I am because I didn't vote for a corrupt globalist neocon.

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Post by VegettoEX » Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:04 pm

RealtreeByGod wrote:I'm sorry, I forgot that Donald Trump is literally Hitler and every piece of media I consume needs to constantly tell me how much of a horrible person I am because I didn't vote for a corrupt globalist neocon.
I didn't say any candidate's name nor make any judgement one way or the other.

If all the media you like to normally consume is offering you these alternative viewpoints to your own way of thinking and the way you voted, that's a pretty strong indication that the people you look up to either aren't who you thought they were, or maybe you want to set aside some time to think about your own viewpoints more in depth.

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Post by DanielSSJ » Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:06 pm

RealtreeByGod wrote:I'm sorry, I forgot that Donald Trump is literally Hitler and every piece of media I consume needs to constantly tell me how much of a horrible person I am because I didn't vote for a corrupt globalist neocon.
It's been only three days since the election. Give it another week or two, and I'll bet it dies down.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by rereboy » Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:09 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
RealtreeByGod wrote:Can I watch TFS Gaming right now without having to hear a bunch of political bullshit?
These political changes affect us in very real ways moving forward. If you need perfect blind escapism, you need to not interact with other people and/or consume anyone else's content right now.

Good luck with that?
Preferring or asking for a piece of fun and entertainment that he enjoys to not dwell into politics, especially if said piece of fun entertainment has always been basically non-political, is perfectly legitimate. There is a time and place for everything, no matter what particular view we hold.

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Post by VegettoEX » Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:11 pm

rereboy wrote:Preferring or asking for a piece of fun and entertainment that he enjoys to not dwell into politics, especially if said piece of fun entertainment has always been basically non-political, is perfectly legitimate. There is a time and place for everything, no matter what particular view we hold.
They have a platform, a voice, and an audience. These changing policies directly affect not only the way they produce said content, but the quality of life that allows them to continue making said content. This is reasonable and well within their rights to do so.

Again, if you need perfect escapism, I don't think YouTubers are where you're going to find it.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by rereboy » Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:14 pm

RealtreeByGod wrote: I'm sorry, I forgot that Donald Trump is literally Hitler and every piece of media I consume needs to constantly tell me how much of a horrible person I am because I didn't vote for a corrupt globalist neocon.
It doesn't make sense to ask something to not dwell on politics, and then go off yourself on a particular personal political view. That makes it seem that you are asking them that, not because you don't want it to dwell on politics, but because you don't want it to dwell on a particular political view.
VegettoEX wrote: They have a platform, a voice, and an audience. These changing policies directly affect not only the way they produce said content, but the quality of life that allows them to continue making said content. This is reasonable and well within their rights to do so.

Again, if you need perfect escapism, I don't think YouTubers are where you're going to find it.
The members of TeamFourStar can talk about whatever they like in their content.

However, a member of their audience that watches their content for fun and entertainment, which is, after all, the purpose of their content from the start, has a perfectly valid opinion in preferring that their content remains fun and entertainment and doesn't dwell on politics. Just because something is important, like politics, it doesn't mean that a person prefers to see it in every little thing he sees/reads/hears when that is not really the purpose of what he is seeing/reading/hearing, nor that he doesn't have a valid opinion if he prefers not to.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Scarz » Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:26 pm

VegettoEX and rereboy both have valid points here. I too have been avoiding certain sites and media to get my mind off things. Several times I've asked in the past two days if "blank" talked about "this" and if I should skip it for now.

But given the current events, it's going to hard to avoid any political talk, no matter who you voted for. Even your favorite vids or podcast hosts will state their opinion one way or another. In my opinion, it's best just to avoid certain media sites for a week or two. People will probably be talk about this from time to time long after but maybe not as much. It's just something to accept and hope it doesn't completely kill your enjoyment of what you like to watch.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by VegettoEX » Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:27 pm

Thanks. I do think there are valid points on the pure escapism side here, too, actually. I just happen to much more strongly think shit's changing big time and the people that you look up to and are affected by it are in a unique position to explain that. Thanks for being reasonable, everyone else! I do appreciate your input and thoughtfulness.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by rereboy » Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:47 pm

History and life are made of ups and downs because their essence is change. Nothing ever remains static. As such, people have to be strong and true to themselves but also keep an open mind and open heart to things that are and will come. There's no point in drowning in worry, despair, fear or to suffer in anticipation, there's only a point in moving forward and fight and persevere when it's needed.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by RealtreeByGod » Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:48 pm

rereboy wrote:
RealtreeByGod wrote: I'm sorry, I forgot that Donald Trump is literally Hitler and every piece of media I consume needs to constantly tell me how much of a horrible person I am because I didn't vote for a corrupt globalist neocon.
It doesn't make sense to ask something to not dwell on politics, and then go off yourself on a particular personal political view. That makes it seem that you are asking that not because you don't want it to dwell on politics but because you don't want it to dwell on a particular political view.
I don't give a fuck about escapism and discussing politics. I just don't want to go on a place that's getting paid advertising money and donations to make funny internet videos about Dragonball and video games, only for the people running it to use it as a soapbox. As far as I'm aware they haven't, and they've been always been VERY VERY respectable and have always ran their shit with more integrity than 95% of internet media so my whole fears are pretty unfounded in the first place. But I didn't watch the stream on Tuesday and I haven't watched an LP in a few days, so IDK if anything's changed post November 8th. The can stick to their own Youtube channels and Twitters as much they want, I don't give a shit.

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rereboy wrote:
RealtreeByGod wrote: I'm sorry, I forgot that Donald Trump is literally Hitler and every piece of media I consume needs to constantly tell me how much of a horrible person I am because I didn't vote for a corrupt globalist neocon.
It doesn't make sense to ask something to not dwell on politics, and then go off yourself on a particular personal political view. That makes it seem that you are asking that not because you don't want it to dwell on politics but because you don't want it to dwell on a particular political view.
I don't give a fuck about escapism and discussing politics. I just don't want to go on a place that's getting paid advertising money and donations to make funny internet videos about Dragonball and video games, only for the people running it to use it as a soapbox. As far as I'm aware they haven't, and they've been always been VERY VERY respectable and have always ran their shit with more integrity than 95% of internet media so my whole fears are pretty unfounded in the first place. But I didn't watch the stream on Tuesday and I haven't watched an LP in a few days, so IDK if anything's changed post November 8th. The can stick to their own Youtube channels and Twitters as much they want, I don't give a shit.
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Post by Noah » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:47 pm

Trying to avoid the politcs subject, I have three questions to TFS

How you guys conciliate TFSGaming and other stuff you guys do with DBZ Abridged? I'm asking mainly because there are a bunch of ignorant people on YouTube that says you guys do have a lot of time to do gaming that could be spent on doing more episodes :lol: how silly of them

And the second is: WEN BROLI

just kidding, but in fact about that, how do you handle the pressure of Movie 8 being one of the most awaited TFS parodies since you guys started this? The time has finally come, are you putting a lot of effort to be one of the greatest movie parodies ever, better than Movie 5 or just do the thing and expect to most people enjoy?
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by KaiserNeko » Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:09 pm

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rereboy wrote:
RealtreeByGod wrote: I'm sorry, I forgot that Donald Trump is literally Hitler and every piece of media I consume needs to constantly tell me how much of a horrible person I am because I didn't vote for a corrupt globalist neocon.
It doesn't make sense to ask something to not dwell on politics, and then go off yourself on a particular personal political view. That makes it seem that you are asking that not because you don't want it to dwell on politics but because you don't want it to dwell on a particular political view.
I don't give a fuck about escapism and discussing politics. I just don't want to go on a place that's getting paid advertising money and donations to make funny internet videos about Dragonball and video games, only for the people running it to use it as a soapbox. As far as I'm aware they haven't, and they've been always been VERY VERY respectable and have always ran their shit with more integrity than 95% of internet media so my whole fears are pretty unfounded in the first place. But I didn't watch the stream on Tuesday and I haven't watched an LP in a few days, so IDK if anything's changed post November 8th. The can stick to their own Youtube channels and Twitters as much they want, I don't give a shit.
We aren't going to stop talking about our personal ideas, beliefs, etc. in unscripted videos. These videos are us, sharing our thoughts about these games and the world. We're also not using it as a soap box. When the entire point of these videos is us having fun while playing games, once in a while you talk about your personal opinions on the world around you. Especially when it's got such a huge effect on all of us. It's ultimately your call whether or not you stick around for what we say and what we think, but we're not stopping.
Noah wrote:Trying to avoid the politcs subject, I have three questions to TFS

How you guys conciliate TFSGaming and other stuff you guys do with DBZ Abridged? I'm asking mainly because there are a bunch of ignorant people on YouTube that says you guys do have a lot of time to do gaming that could be spent on doing more episodes :lol: how silly of them

And the second is: WEN BROLI

just kidding, but in fact about that, how do you handle the pressure of Movie 8 being one of the most awaited TFS parodies since you guys started this? The time has finally come, are you putting a lot of effort to be one of the greatest movie parodies ever, better than Movie 5 or just do the thing and expect to most people enjoy?
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We're trying to do our best with Broly. It's a difficult movie to approach from the same angle we have with other films. In the end, we'll do our best and hope people enjoy what we produce.
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Post by Vegard Aune » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:37 pm

The TFS Gaming channel is literally them playing games while talking about whatever comes to mind. It hardly seems unreasonable that they might end up discussing the election a lot these days. I mean I wouldn't know, apart from their Pokémon runs and Nekopara I haven't really gotten into any of their LP series (Kinda weird too, I enjoyed the hell out of Nekopara but all the other games in the Yes! Yes! Love Adventure Go! series haven't really grabbed me in the same way...), but yeah. If you're watching unscripted videos where people just talk about stuff... Trump's probably gonna come up one way or the other.

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Post by Noah » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:08 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:Unfortunately, life is a total unpredictable bitch at times.

We're trying to do our best with Broly. It's a difficult movie to approach from the same angle we have with other films. In the end, we'll do our best and hope people enjoy what we produce.
I wish more people had this same understatement and I have no doubt you guys will do great job with Movie 8, I'll wait anxiously for December :D
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by rereboy » Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:44 am

RealtreeByGod wrote:
rereboy wrote:
RealtreeByGod wrote: I'm sorry, I forgot that Donald Trump is literally Hitler and every piece of media I consume needs to constantly tell me how much of a horrible person I am because I didn't vote for a corrupt globalist neocon.
It doesn't make sense to ask something to not dwell on politics, and then go off yourself on a particular personal political view. That makes it seem that you are asking that not because you don't want it to dwell on politics but because you don't want it to dwell on a particular political view.
I don't give a fuck about escapism and discussing politics. I just don't want to go on a place that's getting paid advertising money and donations to make funny internet videos about Dragonball and video games, only for the people running it to use it as a soapbox. As far as I'm aware they haven't, and they've been always been VERY VERY respectable and have always ran their shit with more integrity than 95% of internet media so my whole fears are pretty unfounded in the first place. But I didn't watch the stream on Tuesday and I haven't watched an LP in a few days, so IDK if anything's changed post November 8th. The can stick to their own Youtube channels and Twitters as much they want, I don't give a shit.
I think you kind of missed my point, but no matter. I understand what you are saying.

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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:01 pm

Noah wrote:
KaiserNeko wrote:Unfortunately, life is a total unpredictable bitch at times.

We're trying to do our best with Broly. It's a difficult movie to approach from the same angle we have with other films. In the end, we'll do our best and hope people enjoy what we produce.
I wish more people had this same understatement and I have no doubt you guys will do great job with Movie 8, I'll wait anxiously for December :D
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