Unpopular DB opinions

[Jinzoningen MULE]

A lot of episode 61 doesn't work like that. Black killed Gowasu when he was still in the body of a God, so why didn't that cause a ripple effect that destroyed all Gowasu across the timelines? That's what Beerus said anyway. If you try to argue that its exclusive to Beerus, you still run into the problem of "Wait... If Beerus' ripple is meant to kill all Zamasu.... Why isn't Future Zamasu dead?

When Beerus later said that Trunks' explanation of time travel was convincing, that implied to me that Beerus was just making shit up at first. However, in the official timeline, he does seem to have some influence on the timeline. That's what I meant by inconsistent principles, none of Zamasu's time travel business makes any sense.

[Anime Kitten]

The warriors who trained at God's Palace still couldn't compete with the Saiyans, Goku didn't get all that much stronger from the fruit from Hell, Gohan wasn't brave when it counted.

Well, when you consider it, you see that they do plug in. The Saiyans were supposed to be way above the Z-Fighters, to emphasize the hopelessness of the situation. And that was the point with Gohan, too; he was so terrified at the Saiyans' power that he couldn't rack up enough courage. I will give you the fruit thing, but that episode was pointless to begin with.

[Cure Dragon 255]

But Goku kicked ass against the Saiyans. he did become much stronger than he was before. Not that I'm defending or even like that filler episode. I dont care. But still one could say he did become strong.

I DO LOVE the Gohan fillers and they do integrate seamleslly. Before Gohan didnt even want to fight at all. I mean one could make that assumption. He did become much less of a crybaby. I dont think Gohan was SUPER BRAVE so he still got afraid from watching the Saiyan battle and kill his allies.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

The Saiyans were supposed to be way above the Z-Fighters, to emphasize the hopelessness of the situation. And that was the point with Gohan, too; he was so terrified at the Saiyans' power that he couldn't rack up enough courage.

They hyped up the humans way more than was warranted. And no, the point that filler established with Gohan was that he was done with being cowardly, and that he was willing to fight for who he cares about.

But Goku kicked ass against the Saiyans. he did become much stronger than he was before. Not that I'm defending or even like that filler episode. I don't care. But still one could say he did become strong.

The episode implied that Goku got much stronger than he actually did. So much so that he was able to run a signifigant distance down the Serpentine Road in practically no time.

I DO LOVE the Gohan fillers and they do integrate seamlessly ... I don't think Gohan was SUPER BRAVE so he still got afraid from watching the Saiyan battle and kill his allies.

Given the point of Gohan's arc, him acting the way he did is not seamless. It's not contradictory, I'll give it that much, but it's not seamless either.

[Bansho64]

I actually really dislike the designs of Merged Zamasu and Zamasu in general (anime). For me, the manga design of Zamasu completely demolishes the anime version.

[Anime Kitten]

And no, the point that filler established with Gohan was that he was done with being cowardly, and that he was willing to fight for who he cares about.

Well, no. Gohan was only 5, right? There's no way he'd be able to stay brave enough against two members of a ruthless warrior Race, each with so much power.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Well, no. Gohan was only 5, right? There's no way he'd be able to stay brave enough against two members of a ruthless warrior Race, each with so much power.

I agree, that's another reason why it doesn't mend well.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

Here's a really unpopular opinion. After recently re-watching/reading Dragon Ball I realized I don't like it as much as I used to.

While the music(Kikuchi) and voice acting(Japanese cast) is still great and Toriyama's artwork from Red Ribbon Army to Freeza is solid, it kind of bores me for the most part. Maybe, it's cause after watching a lot of cartoons and reading a lot of comics my standards have grown higher.

Dragon Ball was a 8.5-9/10 when I watched/read it first time, now it's no more than a 6.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Here's a really unpopular opinion. After recently re-watching/reading Dragon Ball I realized I don't like it as much as I used to.

While the music(Kikuchi) and voice acting(Japanese cast) is still great and Toriyama's artwork from Red Ribbon Army to Freeza is solid, it kind of bores me for the most part. Maybe, it's cause after watching a lot of cartoons and reading a lot of comics my standards have grown higher.

Dragon Ball was a 8.5-9/10 when I watched/read it first time, now it's no more than a 6.

Old Dragon Ball is definitely better read than watched. Toriyama's old gags often don't translate well to the screen, and the filler and padding material is so hit & miss (if I'm honest, it's more often miss). I would never binge-watch Dragon Ball again. In fact, 2-3 episodes is usually my daily limit when re-watching. However, I could spend hours reading through the manga. I could read between 1-2 volumes a day, which is the equivalent of a little over an arc in early Dragon Ball.

I'd put the TV adaptation at 4/7 stars, and the comic at 6/7.

[Soppa Saia People]

Here's a really unpopular opinion. After recently re-watching/reading Dragon Ball I realized I don't like it as much as I used to.

While the music(Kikuchi) and voice acting(Japanese cast) is still great and Toriyama's artwork from Red Ribbon Army to Freeza is solid, it kind of bores me for the most part. Maybe, it's cause after watching a lot of cartoons and reading a lot of comics my standards have grown higher.

Dragon Ball was a 8.5-9/10 when I watched/read it first time, now it's no more than a 6.

Old Dragon Ball is definitely better read than watched. Toriyama's old gags often don't translate well to the screen, and the filler and padding material is so hit & miss (if I'm honest, it's more often miss). I would never binge-watch Dragon Ball again. In fact, 2-3 episodes is usually my daily limit when re-watching. However, I could spend hours reading through the manga. I could read between 1-2 volumes a day, which is the equivalent of a little over an arc in early Dragon Ball.

I'd put the TV adaptation at 4/7 stars, and the comic at 6/7.

I agree. I find the anime in general just a bore, hell I have never even watch one of the series all the way. The closest I came was GT, and despite being 64 episodes, I skipped the majority of the Super 17 and Black star Dragon Ball arcs. Manga for life.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

Here's a really unpopular opinion. After recently re-watching/reading Dragon Ball I realized I don't like it as much as I used to.

While the music(Kikuchi) and voice acting(Japanese cast) is still great and Toriyama's artwork from Red Ribbon Army to Freeza is solid, it kind of bores me for the most part. Maybe, it's cause after watching a lot of cartoons and reading a lot of comics my standards have grown higher.

Dragon Ball was a 8.5-9/10 when I watched/read it first time, now it's no more than a 6.

Old Dragon Ball is definitely better read than watched. Toriyama's old gags often don't translate well to the screen, and the filler and padding material is so hit & miss (if I'm honest, it's more often miss). I would never binge-watch Dragon Ball again. In fact, 2-3 episodes is usually my daily limit when re-watching. However, I could spend hours reading through the manga. I could read between 1-2 volumes a day, which is the equivalent of a little over an arc in early Dragon Ball.

I'd put the TV adaptation at 4/7 stars, and the comic at 6/7.

I meant the original series as a whole which includes Dragon Ball Z as well.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Here's a really unpopular opinion. After recently re-watching/reading Dragon Ball I realized I don't like it as much as I used to.

While the music(Kikuchi) and voice acting(Japanese cast) is still great and Toriyama's artwork from Red Ribbon Army to Freeza is solid, it kind of bores me for the most part. Maybe, it's cause after watching a lot of cartoons and reading a lot of comics my standards have grown higher.

Dragon Ball was a 8.5-9/10 when I watched/read it first time, now it's no more than a 6.

Old Dragon Ball is definitely better read than watched. Toriyama's old gags often don't translate well to the screen, and the filler and padding material is so hit & miss (if I'm honest, it's more often miss). I would never binge-watch Dragon Ball again. In fact, 2-3 episodes is usually my daily limit when re-watching. However, I could spend hours reading through the manga. I could read between 1-2 volumes a day, which is the equivalent of a little over an arc in early Dragon Ball.

I'd put the TV adaptation at 4/7 stars, and the comic at 6/7.

I agree. I find the anime in general just a bore, hell I have never even watch one of the series all the way. The closest I came was GT, and despite being 64 episodes, I skipped the majority of the Super 17 and Black star Dragon Ball arcs. Manga for life.

I wouldn't call it a bore, either (although there are some boring patches), it just kind of... didn't work? The gags, in general, aren't as funny. Other than Jackie Chun x Goku, the simple choreography of old wasn't that interesting to watch (this was rectified about halfway through, Toriyama began drawing fights better, and the anime started using its own choreography). Goku's characterization was too heroic. The pacing felt slower, even though things didn't actually take as much time, even when it didn't, it was paced unevenly at best.

Even though it's not technically bad, I can't go back to it as enthusiastically after having read the manga.

[Soppa Saia People]

Old Dragon Ball is definitely better read than watched. Toriyama's old gags often don't translate well to the screen, and the filler and padding material is so hit & miss (if I'm honest, it's more often miss). I would never binge-watch Dragon Ball again. In fact, 2-3 episodes is usually my daily limit when re-watching. However, I could spend hours reading through the manga. I could read between 1-2 volumes a day, which is the equivalent of a little over an arc in early Dragon Ball.

I'd put the TV adaptation at 4/7 stars, and the comic at 6/7.

I agree. I find the anime in general just a bore, hell I have never even watch one of the series all the way. The closest I came was GT, and despite being 64 episodes, I skipped the majority of the Super 17 and Black star Dragon Ball arcs. Manga for life.

I wouldn't call it a bore, either (although there are some boring patches), it just kind of... didn't work? The gags, in general, aren't as funny. Other than Jackie Chun x Goku, the simple choreography of old wasn't that interesting to watch (this was rectified about halfway through, Toriyama began drawing fights better, and the anime started using its own choreography). Goku's characterization was too heroic. The pacing felt slower, even though things didn't actually take as much time, even when it didn't, it was paced unevenly at best.

Even though it's not technically bad, I can't go back to it as enthusiastically after having read the manga.

Different strokes for different folks.
That's cool to hear. Hopefully, more people will start reading the manga.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Here's a really unpopular opinion. After recently re-watching/reading Dragon Ball I realized I don't like it as much as I used to.

While the music(Kikuchi) and voice acting(Japanese cast) is still great and Toriyama's artwork from Red Ribbon Army to Freeza is solid, it kind of bores me for the most part. Maybe, it's cause after watching a lot of cartoons and reading a lot of comics my standards have grown higher.

Dragon Ball was a 8.5-9/10 when I watched/read it first time, now it's no more than a 6.

Old Dragon Ball is definitely better read than watched. Toriyama's old gags often don't translate well to the screen, and the filler and padding material is so hit & miss (if I'm honest, it's more often miss). I would never binge-watch Dragon Ball again. In fact, 2-3 episodes is usually my daily limit when re-watching. However, I could spend hours reading through the manga. I could read between 1-2 volumes a day, which is the equivalent of a little over an arc in early Dragon Ball.

I'd put the TV adaptation at 4/7 stars, and the comic at 6/7.

I meant the original series as a whole which includes Dragon Ball Z as well.

Not many (outside of the hardcore fanbase) refer don't refer to it as one big series, so I misunderstood.

In that case, I get what you mean. It isn't overwhelmingly good at anything other than memorability. I have the same feelings towards Star Wars. Even though for every example you can give of either, you can easily find an example of someone else who did it better, these series' do things in such a memorable and fun way, tons of people are drawn back in over and over and over...

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Here's a really unpopular opinion. After recently re-watching/reading Dragon Ball I realized I don't like it as much as I used to.

While the music(Kikuchi) and voice acting(Japanese cast) is still great and Toriyama's artwork from Red Ribbon Army to Freeza is solid, it kind of bores me for the most part. Maybe, it's cause after watching a lot of cartoons and reading a lot of comics my standards have grown higher.

Dragon Ball was a 8.5-9/10 when I watched/read it first time, now it's no more than a 6.

I don't find the anime as a whole difficult to watch. The Z portion - I do for the most part because unlike the original Dragon Ball the pacing is terrible. Kai was invaluable in this regard. I'll watch a few episodes of Dragon Ball Z here and there but I don't typically rewatch it from beginning to end, Kai is much easier to get through because the story moves at a more natural rate (as it should being so much closer to the manga). Granted there is some good filler Kai excluded but in general I find it to be the overall better work.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

I don't find the anime as a whole difficult to watch. The Z portion - I do for the most part because unlike the original Dragon Ball the pacing is terrible. Kai was invaluable in this regard. I'll watch a few episodes of Dragon Ball Z here and there but I don't typically rewatch it from beginning to end, Kai is much easier to get through because the story moves at a more natural rate (as it should being so much closer to the manga). Granted there is some good filler Kai excluded but in general I find it to be the overall better work.

Kai is even worse for me to sit through. But that's a different topic. My point wasn't that I get bored of the anime and prefer the comic, it's that I get bored of the series in general and I don't like it as much as I used to.

[Soppa Saia People]

I don't find the anime as a whole difficult to watch. The Z portion - I do for the most part because unlike the original Dragon Ball the pacing is terrible. Kai was invaluable in this regard. I'll watch a few episodes of Dragon Ball Z here and there but I don't typically rewatch it from beginning to end, Kai is much easier to get through because the story moves at a more natural rate (as it should being so much closer to the manga). Granted there is some good filler Kai excluded but in general I find it to be the overall better work.

Kai is even worse for me to sit through. But that's a different topic. My point wasn't that I get bored of the anime and prefer the comic, it's that I get bored of the series in general and I don't like it as much as I used to.

That's not unpopular, that's gonna happen with anyone.

[kinisking]

Well, no. Gohan was only 5, right? There's no way he'd be able to stay brave enough against two members of a ruthless warrior Race, each with so much power.

I agree, that's another reason why it doesn't mend well.

I'd say it mends. This was the real thing and practice is always completely different from the real thing. He had a momentary lapse of his bravery before he once again realized how important bravery was (he did come back for Goku after all)

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Goku's Super is the best portrayal of Goku since Dragon Ball.

[Soppa Saia People]

Goku's Super is the best portrayal of Goku since Dragon Ball.

Care to explain why ? Goku was fine in GT and in most of Z.