Future Trunks' new form!

[Faisal Shourov]

Still nothing. When the hell they are gonna give us an explanation? GOD. It isn't our work for us spectators to fill Toei's plot-holes in the series!

It's an asspull, don't expect any explanation. Do we yet know how Vegeta got SSB? Or Goku? Nope

[Kishido]

Training with Whis learning god Ki is still more than nothing

[Neon Z]

The form has already been explained. It is ssj rage mode basically. No god ki whatsoever in it.

Gowasu says it clearly. This is the power of rage.

I thought he was just saying that he was powering up even more than before due to rage. It wasn't necessarily a comment about the form at all.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Still nothing. When the hell they are gonna give us an explanation? GOD. It isn't our work for us spectators to fill Toei's plot-holes in the series!

It's not a pot hole. Seriously people need to stop throwing that around. It's not going to get explained like pretty much every form in the series ever.

[YonedgeHP]

Still nothing. When the hell they are gonna give us an explanation? GOD. It isn't our work for us spectators to fill Toei's plot-holes in the series!

It's not a pot hole. Seriously people need to stop throwing that around. It's not going to get explained like pretty much every form in the series ever.

You're confusing plot-hole with plot error. Everything that is not explained is considered plot-hole (such as Champa's motives for bringing together the Super Dragon Balls), why? because of the lack of explanation.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Still nothing. When the hell they are gonna give us an explanation? GOD. It isn't our work for us spectators to fill Toei's plot-holes in the series!

It's not a pot hole. Seriously people need to stop throwing that around. It's not going to get explained like pretty much every form in the series ever.

You're confusing plot-hole with plot error. Everything that is not explained is considered plot-hole (such as Champa's motives for bringing together the Super Dragon Balls)

Errr no. Definition of a plot hole:

"In fiction, a plot hole is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot. Such inconsistencies include such things as illogical or impossible events, and statements or events that contradict earlier events in the storyline."

Trunks having a new transformation does NOT fit this requirement nor does Champa gathering Super DB's.

An example of a plot hole would be:

" Let's just say Goku and Vegeta have had a spell put on them to stop them transforming into Super Saiyans. Then moments later writers forgot about it and Goku and Vegeta transform like normal".
This is a plot hole because it goes against what the plot previously established.

Trunks having a new transformation with no explanation is not a plot hole, if anything it's a plot contrivance.

[Kishido]

Still nothing. When the hell they are gonna give us an explanation? GOD. It isn't our work for us spectators to fill Toei's plot-holes in the series!

It's not a pot hole. Seriously people need to stop throwing that around. It's not going to get explained like pretty much every form in the series ever.

That's wrong but to each their own.

Now I bet you will bring the Super Saiyan 2 or 3 card... But even both transformations got a bit more explanation than Trunks powering up gathering blue aura

[Freeza9000]

I can only hope the manga shows more of the training between Vegeta and Trunks. Sure it may not benefit or cover the anime's ass considering the manga is a separate entity than the anime, but it would be something more sensible behind the reasoning of Trunks's power up.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Still nothing. When the hell they are gonna give us an explanation? GOD. It isn't our work for us spectators to fill Toei's plot-holes in the series!

It's not a pot hole. Seriously people need to stop throwing that around. It's not going to get explained like pretty much every form in the series ever.

That's wrong but to each their own.

Now I bet you will bring the Super Saiyan 2 or 3 card... But even both transformations got a bit more explanation than Trunks powering up gathering blue aura

Oh really so why does SS3 remove eye brows?

[Makai]

Goku having a tail and transforming into a giant ape wasn't explained until they got to Z. Plus, how come Gotenks skipped SSJ2, and Vegeta skipped SSJ3? Many unexplained questions to ask. This could just be another transformation the others besides Trunks were able to achieve.

[Grimlock]

Gotenks appeared twice as Super Saiyan 2 in the anime series, both he was going to Super Saiyan 3, but his Super Saiyan 2 was briefly seen. The first time was in the manga too, for two panels.

Also, Vegeta didn't skip Super Saiyan 3, as Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan is not linked to Super Saiyan 3.

[Kishido]

A new week without explanation but instead he can do now a Genkidama sword in this form.

Amazing

[Potanical Pardon]

I think a lot of it has to do with most of our consumption of DBZ. Most of us experienced the series not in real-time with its original Japan broadcast with the ready availability of information about power levels and forms even when we hadn't yet experienced later seasons and GT.

I'm presuming the viewers during the original broadcast didn't think of Gohan's SSJ2 moment as "SSJ2". They just took it as some advanced mastery of SSJ beyond the Frankenstein one that zapped stamina from Vegeta and Trunks. It was probably only once the Buu Saga had Goku reveal that he learned SSJ3 in name, that retroactively Gohan's moment became a form.

I'm not sure how much time transpired between Gohan SSJ2 and Goku SSJ3. Months? Over a year? But Trunks SSJ Blue Gold and even SSJ Rose may or may not ever be explained further, but if one or both are, it could be a long time before we're given answers to the ambiguous.

[dbs fanboy]

People lets face it, it's not going to be explained, in fact, this is one of the flaws of this arc, the lack of explanations.

Imma call it Super human. Yep, i'm going to change my name from prior. After watching this episode with Trunks talking about how they all fight together, i can't see this asspull as Trunks's power, but as symbolic representation of the mortals's power.

[MagmonKai]

It's not a pot hole. Seriously people need to stop throwing that around. It's not going to get explained like pretty much every form in the series ever.

You're confusing plot-hole with plot error. Everything that is not explained is considered plot-hole (such as Champa's motives for bringing together the Super Dragon Balls)

Errr no. Definition of a plot hole:

"In fiction, a plot hole is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot. Such inconsistencies include such things as illogical or impossible events, and statements or events that contradict earlier events in the storyline."

Trunks having a new transformation does NOT fit this requirement nor does Champa gathering Super DB's.

An example of a plot hole would be:

" Let's just say Goku and Vegeta have had a spell put on them to stop them transforming into Super Saiyans. Then moments later writers forgot about it and Goku and Vegeta transform like normal".
This is a plot hole because it goes against what the plot previously established.

Trunks having a new transformation with no explanation is not a plot hole, if anything it's a plot contrivance.

You mean like how the Potara Fusion was touted as Permanent deal and now it's got a time-limit? I understood the innards of Buu to be liken a new dimension, thereby nullifying the effects of the Potara's magic, but this was non-sense.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

You're confusing plot-hole with plot error. Everything that is not explained is considered plot-hole (such as Champa's motives for bringing together the Super Dragon Balls)

Errr no. Definition of a plot hole:

"In fiction, a plot hole is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot. Such inconsistencies include such things as illogical or impossible events, and statements or events that contradict earlier events in the storyline."

Trunks having a new transformation does NOT fit this requirement nor does Champa gathering Super DB's.

An example of a plot hole would be:

" Let's just say Goku and Vegeta have had a spell put on them to stop them transforming into Super Saiyans. Then moments later writers forgot about it and Goku and Vegeta transform like normal".
This is a plot hole because it goes against what the plot previously established.

Trunks having a new transformation with no explanation is not a plot hole, if anything it's a plot contrivance.

You mean like how the Potara Fusion was touted as Permanent deal and now it's got a time-limit? I understood the innards of Buu to be liken a new dimension, thereby nullifying the effects of the Potara's magic, but this was non-sense.

I mean it does still fit the narrative it is just a retcon, the problem would arise if Kioshin said the retcon but luckily Gowasu did.
I do agree it's the dumbest thing they've done in a while though.

[Nejishiki]

I think a lot of it has to do with most of our consumption of DBZ. Most of us experienced the series not in real-time with its original Japan broadcast with the ready availability of information about power levels and forms even when we hadn't yet experienced later seasons and GT.

I'm presuming the viewers during the original broadcast didn't think of Gohan's SSJ2 moment as "SSJ2". They just took it as some advanced mastery of SSJ beyond the Frankenstein one that zapped stamina from Vegeta and Trunks. It was probably only once the Buu Saga had Goku reveal that he learned SSJ3 in name, that retroactively Gohan's moment became a form.

I'm not sure how much time transpired between Gohan SSJ2 and Goku SSJ3. Months? Over a year? But Trunks SSJ Blue Gold and even SSJ Rose may or may not ever be explained further, but if one or both are, it could be a long time before we're given answers to the ambiguous.

I detailed the waiting period in an earlier post. It was 71 weeks.

[Kishido]

Will post it here as well

Now I have to wait for DB Heroes to get a name for his new form... Cuz I doubt we will get an LITTLE explanation next episode... Hel not even Goku or Vegeta showed some signs of suprise Trunks getting some new form.

That's why it is lol worthy to compare it to Gohan going 2 and Goku going 3. Yeah we got little explanations for it as well... But instead we got TONS of reactions with people saying how said characters have got new forms.

Trunks just transformed and no one cared or mentioned something

[Bullza]

I don't think it's THAT confusing what Trunks' new form is. It's shown a couple times but particularly in Episode 63 is what gives us the best idea of what it is.

He transforms into his Ultra Super Saiyan 2 form. The same one he used early in the saga against Vegeta. That's why his hair is spiky, why he's so heavy, got the deep voice (at first), the white eyes and the increased power.

But the form by itself was supposed to be useless because of how bulky and slow it was.

This new form of Trunks to me looks like he turns into the Ultra Super Saiyan 2 and then somehow this blue aura that appears reigns his size back in so he keeps the power but doesn't lose any of the speed.

If the blue aura is God Ki or not and why it reigns him in is the real question but otherwise I'm sure it's just supposed to be this.



But in a slim body.

[jplaya2023]

Gotenks appeared twice as Super Saiyan 2 in the anime series, both he was going to Super Saiyan 3, but his Super Saiyan 2 was briefly seen. The first time was in the manga too, for two panels.

Also, Vegeta didn't skip Super Saiyan 3, as Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan is not linked to Super Saiyan 3.

can you reference the chapter in which gotenks is shown as ssj2 please. I know you can't post links to the manga here.

thank you