
"Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
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"Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
From what i've seen, quite a few people are little triggered, by how Zamasu was beaten, from what i've seen, power levels and power gap dont make sense in Super anyway, Goku using SSJ3 against Trunks, random Freeza soldier stronger than Piccolo etc... Like TFS Vegeta said, power levels are b.llshit, it is better not thing about it 

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Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
The bullshit part isn't Trunks defeating Zamasu, that's perfectly fine.
The bullshit part is Trunks learning the Genkidama when he didn't even know the technique, learning it mid-battle, with no idea of what was happening, incorporating it into his sword, essentially utilizing it in a much better way than Goku ever did with all his years of training, and whilst in a rage-induced form nonetheless, when the technique is supposed to be used by someone calm and pure of heart.
The bullshit part is Trunks learning the Genkidama when he didn't even know the technique, learning it mid-battle, with no idea of what was happening, incorporating it into his sword, essentially utilizing it in a much better way than Goku ever did with all his years of training, and whilst in a rage-induced form nonetheless, when the technique is supposed to be used by someone calm and pure of heart.
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Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
We don't know if it's the Spirit Dama just yet could be something else... But this likely go unexplained so I think we will have to settle on it. But hey one more episode to go it all can change...!Doctor. wrote:The bullshit part isn't Trunks defeating Zamasu, that's perfectly fine.
The bullshit part is Trunks learning the Genkidama when he didn't even know the technique, learning it mid-battle, with no idea of what was happening, incorporating it into his sword, essentially utilizing it in a much better way than Goku ever did with all his years of training, and whilst in a rage-induced form nonetheless, when the technique is supposed to be used by someone calm and pure of heart.
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Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
Trunks was granted quite a lot of gifts in this arc:
- Starts the arc with SSJ2 (plausible)
- Attains a random transformation that is never given an explanation, all by getting mad.
- Learns the Mafuba out of the blue by getting mad (and watching a cell phone vid beforehand)
- Conveniently learns a random ki-blade technique for his sword.
- Is able to go toe to toe with Merged Zamasu at the end, despite previously being unable to fend off against Black alone.
- Is able to sense SSJB Vegito's ki, despite not being able to sense SSJB Vegeta's ki before.
- And yes, the "Spirit Sword" that was pulled out of a hat.
Future Trunks was clearly holding back in the Cell saga. What a douche.
- Starts the arc with SSJ2 (plausible)
- Attains a random transformation that is never given an explanation, all by getting mad.
- Learns the Mafuba out of the blue by getting mad (and watching a cell phone vid beforehand)
- Conveniently learns a random ki-blade technique for his sword.
- Is able to go toe to toe with Merged Zamasu at the end, despite previously being unable to fend off against Black alone.
- Is able to sense SSJB Vegito's ki, despite not being able to sense SSJB Vegeta's ki before.
- And yes, the "Spirit Sword" that was pulled out of a hat.
Future Trunks was clearly holding back in the Cell saga. What a douche.
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Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
This one's plausible too, he just concentrated Ki on the sword to fix it. Literally what Black/Zamasu and Vegetto have been doing with their hands.fadeddreams5 wrote: Conveniently learns a random ki-blade technique for his sword.
Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
That made me laugh.fadeddreams5 wrote:Trunks was granted quite a lot of gifts in this arc:
- Starts the arc with SSJ2 (plausible)
- Attains a random transformation that is never given an explanation, all by getting mad.
- Learns the Mafuba out of the blue by getting mad (and watching a cell phone vid beforehand)
- Conveniently learns a random ki-blade technique for his sword.
- Is able to go toe to toe with Merged Zamasu at the end, despite previously being unable to fend off against Black alone.
- Is able to sense SSJB Vegito's ki, despite not being able to sense SSJB Vegeta's ki before.
- And yes, the "Spirit Sword" that was pulled out of a hat.
Future Trunks was clearly holding back in the Cell saga. What a douche.


Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
"I can say this now, but the truth is that with that with Cell, I would have been able to defeat him at the time with my full power…However, I wanted the present guys to manage something…For this timeline's sake too…”
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Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
I'm starting to hate TrunksCipher wrote:"I can say this now, but the truth is that with that with Cell, I would have been able to defeat him at the time with my full power…However, I wanted the present guys to manage something…For this timeline's sake too…”

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Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
I don't think Trunks created the Spirit Bomb he just absorbed it into his sword, I think the will of the people wanting to help Trunks out gave out their energy.
Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
It's not that the power levels have been bullshit before in Super
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Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
Their energy should be worthless in this situation simple as that really.Xeztin wrote:I don't think Trunks created the Spirit Bomb he just absorbed it into his sword, I think the will of the people wanting to help Trunks out gave out their energy.
Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
You have a few hundred people plus two Saiyan's pouring their energy into it too though.namekiansaiyan wrote:Their energy should be worthless in this situation simple as that really.Xeztin wrote:I don't think Trunks created the Spirit Bomb he just absorbed it into his sword, I think the will of the people wanting to help Trunks out gave out their energy.
Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
Why the hell doesn't this happen when i want my baseball team to winXeztin wrote:I don't think Trunks created the Spirit Bomb he just absorbed it into his sword, I think the will of the people wanting to help Trunks out gave out their energy.

Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
I wonder this myself, I've willed so hard I should be at least a Super Saiyan by now, perhaps I'm not doing it right!Hit!! wrote:Why the hell doesn't this happen when i want my baseball team to winXeztin wrote:I don't think Trunks created the Spirit Bomb he just absorbed it into his sword, I think the will of the people wanting to help Trunks out gave out their energy.

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Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
I've taken the "ignore all power scaling and consistency" approach since Resurrection F when SSJB Goku was taken down by a fucking laser ring. Not trying make sense out of any wacky power related scenario has made Super ten times more enjoyable for me. They aren't even hiding how much the plot dictates how strong characters can be.
EDIT: To be fair, I did roll my eyes also when Raging Vegeta beat up Beerus in Battle Of Gods. I mean, I already had little apathy towards power scaling in Dragon Ball, but that was precise moment when I really stopped caring.
EDIT: To be fair, I did roll my eyes also when Raging Vegeta beat up Beerus in Battle Of Gods. I mean, I already had little apathy towards power scaling in Dragon Ball, but that was precise moment when I really stopped caring.
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Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
Ur doing it wrong m8!!Xeztin wrote:I wonder this myself, I've willed so hard I should be at least a Super Saiyan by now, perhaps I'm not doing it right!Hit!! wrote:Why the hell doesn't this happen when i want my baseball team to winXeztin wrote:I don't think Trunks created the Spirit Bomb he just absorbed it into his sword, I think the will of the people wanting to help Trunks out gave out their energy.
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Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
QFT. Sometimes it's the only way for me to watch an episode without multiple facepalms. Actually, if you manage to put power level inconsistency aside, Super is very enjoyable.Lord Beerus wrote:I've taken the "ignore all power scaling and consistency" approach since Resurrection F when SSJB Goku was taken down by a fucking laser ring. Not trying make sense out of any wacky power related scenario has made Super ten times more enjoyable for me. They are even hiding how much the plot dictates how strong characters can be.
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Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
To be fair, I did roll my eyes also when Raging Vegeta beat up Beerus in Battle Of Gods. I mean, I already had little apathy towards power scaling in Dragon Ball, but that was precise moment when I really stopped caring.nitemare wrote:QFT. Sometimes it's the only way for me to watch an episode without multiple facepalms. Actually, if you manage to put power level inconsistency aside, Super is very enjoyable.Lord Beerus wrote:I've taken the "ignore all power scaling and consistency" approach since Resurrection F when SSJB Goku was taken down by a fucking laser ring. Not trying make sense out of any wacky power related scenario has made Super ten times more enjoyable for me. They are even hiding how much the plot dictates how strong characters can be.
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Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
Well its pretty obvious that power scaling is totally messed up in Super. This arc just confirms it. Don't even try to make any sense of it.
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Re: "Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)
I honestly have not had much problem with it. If anything Super is handling power discrepancies more organically than the series proper ever did. I can stomach stretches if it frees us from the shackles of "I'm a 2, you're a 1, I beat you every time by numerical fiat". The range of powers characters can have at this point is so wide that being that strict is just archaic.
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