"Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)

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"Power levels are b.llshit" - best approach? (Spoilers for episode 66)

Post by coola » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:05 pm

From what i've seen, quite a few people are little triggered, by how Zamasu was beaten, from what i've seen, power levels and power gap dont make sense in Super anyway, Goku using SSJ3 against Trunks, random Freeza soldier stronger than Piccolo etc... Like TFS Vegeta said, power levels are b.llshit, it is better not thing about it :)
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Post by Doctor. » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:08 pm

The bullshit part isn't Trunks defeating Zamasu, that's perfectly fine.

The bullshit part is Trunks learning the Genkidama when he didn't even know the technique, learning it mid-battle, with no idea of what was happening, incorporating it into his sword, essentially utilizing it in a much better way than Goku ever did with all his years of training, and whilst in a rage-induced form nonetheless, when the technique is supposed to be used by someone calm and pure of heart.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:11 pm

Doctor. wrote:The bullshit part isn't Trunks defeating Zamasu, that's perfectly fine.

The bullshit part is Trunks learning the Genkidama when he didn't even know the technique, learning it mid-battle, with no idea of what was happening, incorporating it into his sword, essentially utilizing it in a much better way than Goku ever did with all his years of training, and whilst in a rage-induced form nonetheless, when the technique is supposed to be used by someone calm and pure of heart.
We don't know if it's the Spirit Dama just yet could be something else... But this likely go unexplained so I think we will have to settle on it. But hey one more episode to go it all can change...!

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:32 pm

Trunks was granted quite a lot of gifts in this arc:
- Starts the arc with SSJ2 (plausible)
- Attains a random transformation that is never given an explanation, all by getting mad.
- Learns the Mafuba out of the blue by getting mad (and watching a cell phone vid beforehand)
- Conveniently learns a random ki-blade technique for his sword.
- Is able to go toe to toe with Merged Zamasu at the end, despite previously being unable to fend off against Black alone.
- Is able to sense SSJB Vegito's ki, despite not being able to sense SSJB Vegeta's ki before.
- And yes, the "Spirit Sword" that was pulled out of a hat.

Future Trunks was clearly holding back in the Cell saga. What a douche.
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Post by Doctor. » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:34 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote: Conveniently learns a random ki-blade technique for his sword.
This one's plausible too, he just concentrated Ki on the sword to fix it. Literally what Black/Zamasu and Vegetto have been doing with their hands.

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Post by MagmonKai » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:24 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:Trunks was granted quite a lot of gifts in this arc:
- Starts the arc with SSJ2 (plausible)
- Attains a random transformation that is never given an explanation, all by getting mad.
- Learns the Mafuba out of the blue by getting mad (and watching a cell phone vid beforehand)
- Conveniently learns a random ki-blade technique for his sword.
- Is able to go toe to toe with Merged Zamasu at the end, despite previously being unable to fend off against Black alone.
- Is able to sense SSJB Vegito's ki, despite not being able to sense SSJB Vegeta's ki before.
- And yes, the "Spirit Sword" that was pulled out of a hat.

Future Trunks was clearly holding back in the Cell saga. What a douche.
That made me laugh. :lol: :lol: ...every time someone learns something inexplicably, the answer usually given is because "well, they're a prodigy!"

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Post by Cipher » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:28 pm

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Post by dbs fanboy » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:38 pm

Cipher wrote:"I can say this now, but the truth is that with that with Cell, I would have been able to defeat him at the time with my full power…However, I wanted the present guys to manage something…For this timeline's sake too…”
I'm starting to hate Trunks :lol:
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Post by Xeztin » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:37 pm

I don't think Trunks created the Spirit Bomb he just absorbed it into his sword, I think the will of the people wanting to help Trunks out gave out their energy.

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Post by Kishido » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:38 pm

It's not that the power levels have been bullshit before in Super

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:50 pm

Xeztin wrote:I don't think Trunks created the Spirit Bomb he just absorbed it into his sword, I think the will of the people wanting to help Trunks out gave out their energy.
Their energy should be worthless in this situation simple as that really.

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Post by Xeztin » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:57 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
Xeztin wrote:I don't think Trunks created the Spirit Bomb he just absorbed it into his sword, I think the will of the people wanting to help Trunks out gave out their energy.
Their energy should be worthless in this situation simple as that really.
You have a few hundred people plus two Saiyan's pouring their energy into it too though.

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Post by Hit!! » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:58 pm

Xeztin wrote:I don't think Trunks created the Spirit Bomb he just absorbed it into his sword, I think the will of the people wanting to help Trunks out gave out their energy.
Why the hell doesn't this happen when i want my baseball team to win :(

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Post by Xeztin » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:00 pm

Hit!! wrote:
Xeztin wrote:I don't think Trunks created the Spirit Bomb he just absorbed it into his sword, I think the will of the people wanting to help Trunks out gave out their energy.
Why the hell doesn't this happen when i want my baseball team to win :(
I wonder this myself, I've willed so hard I should be at least a Super Saiyan by now, perhaps I'm not doing it right! :problem:

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:04 pm

I've taken the "ignore all power scaling and consistency" approach since Resurrection F when SSJB Goku was taken down by a fucking laser ring. Not trying make sense out of any wacky power related scenario has made Super ten times more enjoyable for me. They aren't even hiding how much the plot dictates how strong characters can be.

EDIT: To be fair, I did roll my eyes also when Raging Vegeta beat up Beerus in Battle Of Gods. I mean, I already had little apathy towards power scaling in Dragon Ball, but that was precise moment when I really stopped caring.
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Post by Hit!! » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:16 pm

Xeztin wrote:
Hit!! wrote:
Xeztin wrote:I don't think Trunks created the Spirit Bomb he just absorbed it into his sword, I think the will of the people wanting to help Trunks out gave out their energy.
Why the hell doesn't this happen when i want my baseball team to win :(
I wonder this myself, I've willed so hard I should be at least a Super Saiyan by now, perhaps I'm not doing it right! :problem:
Ur doing it wrong m8!!

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Post by nitemare » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:20 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:I've taken the "ignore all power scaling and consistency" approach since Resurrection F when SSJB Goku was taken down by a fucking laser ring. Not trying make sense out of any wacky power related scenario has made Super ten times more enjoyable for me. They are even hiding how much the plot dictates how strong characters can be.
QFT. Sometimes it's the only way for me to watch an episode without multiple facepalms. Actually, if you manage to put power level inconsistency aside, Super is very enjoyable.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:24 pm

nitemare wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:I've taken the "ignore all power scaling and consistency" approach since Resurrection F when SSJB Goku was taken down by a fucking laser ring. Not trying make sense out of any wacky power related scenario has made Super ten times more enjoyable for me. They are even hiding how much the plot dictates how strong characters can be.
QFT. Sometimes it's the only way for me to watch an episode without multiple facepalms. Actually, if you manage to put power level inconsistency aside, Super is very enjoyable.
To be fair, I did roll my eyes also when Raging Vegeta beat up Beerus in Battle Of Gods. I mean, I already had little apathy towards power scaling in Dragon Ball, but that was precise moment when I really stopped caring.

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Post by gofishus » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:34 pm

Well its pretty obvious that power scaling is totally messed up in Super. This arc just confirms it. Don't even try to make any sense of it.

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Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:43 pm

I honestly have not had much problem with it. If anything Super is handling power discrepancies more organically than the series proper ever did. I can stomach stretches if it frees us from the shackles of "I'm a 2, you're a 1, I beat you every time by numerical fiat". The range of powers characters can have at this point is so wide that being that strict is just archaic.
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