How Zamasu should've been defeated

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How Zamasu should've been defeated

Post by mecha3000 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:05 pm

We'll see what happens with Zamasu next week, but if he is indeed defeated by Trunks - I feel like it could've happened differently. Why not have an entire episode dedicated to Vegito and then at the end, they defuse. But they realize they're about to defuse and before they do, they entrust their Vegito energy to Trunks so that he can be the one to stop Zamasu. So when they defuse, Goku and Vegeta have no power and Trunks must step up to the plate with his new Fusion energy. This way, the next episode could have been an entire battle between Trunks (Vegito energy) and Zamasu (Fused). Then, the episode could've ended with Trunks slicing Zamasu in half.

It would've made more sense in my opinion at least and justified why Trunks would be stronger than Goku and Vegeta at that point because they gave up their fusion energy - which means they no longer have enough energy of their own to take on Zamasu. Also, there would've been actual tension when Trunks is fighting Zamasu (Goku and the others would be helpless spectators similar to how everyone spectated Gohan fighting Cell) and it would've felt more earned.

EDIT: I've thought about Zamasu's actual defeat more. Perhaps he was defeated because Zamasu's body was so unstable and that he was half-mortal - So, Trunks was able to defeat him with minimal effort? Eh, I don't know.
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Re: How Zamasu should've been defeated

Post by phattangent » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:12 pm

This is how it should have gone down:
  1. Goku accidentally taps the Zenchan button in his pocket.
  2. Zeno / 全王 shows up to play with Goku.
  3. Merged Zamasu interrupts Zeno via monologue.
  4. Zeno unapologetically erases Zamasu. [spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
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Re: How Zamasu should've been defeated

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:34 pm

While I loved the way Future Trunks cut Zamasu in half, I would have really liked the Mafuba to have actually sealed Zamasu.

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Re: How Zamasu should've been defeated

Post by Boo Machine » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:38 pm

I love what trunks did. I would have loved it more if he did that to Black and Goku sealed away Zamasu with the Mafuba.
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Re: How Zamasu should've been defeated

Post by mecha3000 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:52 pm

Yeah, I'm bummed that Mafuba didn't really end up having a payoff with Goku and Trunks suddenly becoming the Mafuba badass. Maybe, next episode - Goku gets a chance to seal what remains of Zamasu away? If there's any Zamasu left after what Trunks did......

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Re: How Zamasu should've been defeated

Post by phattangent » Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:55 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:While I loved the way Future Trunks cut Zamasu in half, I would have really liked the Mafuba to have actually sealed Zamasu.
That would have been cool. It would have had more of an old school vibe to it.
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Re: How Zamasu should've been defeated

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:03 pm

All I wanted was Zamasu to be more weakened before Trunks sliced him. Seriously have the fight go on...have Vegito about to deliver a final blow....have the other half of Zamasu literally oozing off and falling apart before they defuse. Zamasu laughs at his fortune...it was almost over...the immortal God was almost defeated but HA not today!

Then have Trunks do exactly what he did....minus the Genki-Dama sword. Which in theory should have been pretty damn weak with what like 30 or less people alive on Earth? I mean just say he shaped the sword with his Ki and determination.
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Re: How Zamasu should've been defeated

Post by Angelus » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:57 pm

Merged Zamasu should have been defeated by Future Trunks cutting off the finger or the actual Time Ring itself. That way the ripple effect of Beerus killing Zamasu in the past will then take effect. Of course Zamasu is no immortal but then the ripple effect starts affecting the mortal half, Black.

This way, Future Trunks wouldn't look so OP, slicing up someone that would have taken SSJB Vegito to beat. Although you can argue that Vegito severely weakened Merged Zamasu enough so that Future Trunks could pull off the kill

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Re: How Zamasu should've been defeated

Post by Razorsaw » Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:10 pm

GodKaio-Ken wrote:All I wanted was Zamasu to be more weakened before Trunks sliced him. Seriously have the fight go on...have Vegito about to deliver a final blow....have the other half of Zamasu literally oozing off and falling apart before they defuse. Zamasu laughs at his fortune...it was almost over...the immortal God was almost defeated but HA not today!

Then have Trunks do exactly what he did....minus the Genki-Dama sword. Which in theory should have been pretty damn weak with what like 30 or less people alive on Earth? I mean just say he shaped the sword with his Ki and determination.
is that not exactly what happened? I mean, everyone talks like Trunks tanked Zamasu at 100 HP and one shotted him and that's

not what happened. He'd already been beat up a lot and half of him was literally melting.

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Re: How Zamasu should've been defeated

Post by omaro34 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:16 pm

phattangent wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:While I loved the way Future Trunks cut Zamasu in half, I would have really liked the Mafuba to have actually sealed Zamasu.
That would have been cool. It would have had more of an old school vibe to it.
But then there would always be the threat that the seal would one day potentially break again, setting Zamasu free to cause terror. Same thing happened with King Piccolo.

Killing him was the best option, even though the Mafuba is extremely valuable and would have worked if they weren't so stupid.
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Re: How Zamasu should've been defeated

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:45 pm

The only would change about the ending would be:

After being cut in half Fused-Zamasu defuse into Zamasu and Black, Trunks gives the killing blow once again to Black with his Sword of Human Hope (my headcanon name) and Goku sealing Zamasu with the Mafuba (either Gowasu or East Kaioshin makes some kind of magic to hold Zamasu inside the jar long enough for them to return to the present and apply the sealing talisman).
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Re: How Zamasu should've been defeated

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:42 pm

Razorsaw wrote:
GodKaio-Ken wrote:All I wanted was Zamasu to be more weakened before Trunks sliced him. Seriously have the fight go on...have Vegito about to deliver a final blow....have the other half of Zamasu literally oozing off and falling apart before they defuse. Zamasu laughs at his fortune...it was almost over...the immortal God was almost defeated but HA not today!

Then have Trunks do exactly what he did....minus the Genki-Dama sword. Which in theory should have been pretty damn weak with what like 30 or less people alive on Earth? I mean just say he shaped the sword with his Ki and determination.
is that not exactly what happened? I mean, everyone talks like Trunks tanked Zamasu at 100 HP and one shotted him and that's

not what happened. He'd already been beat up a lot and half of him was literally melting.
Not really. He was still pretty strong and composed honestly. Yeah he was having some issues but I didn't feel like Vegito was close to finishing him at all.
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Re: How Zamasu should've been defeated

Post by Razorsaw » Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:54 pm

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I don't know how anyone could possibly call Zamasu "composed" at any point in this episode.

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Re: How Zamasu should've been defeated

Post by dbs fanboy » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:03 pm

GodKaio-Ken wrote:All I wanted was Zamasu to be more weakened before Trunks sliced him. Seriously have the fight go on...have Vegito about to deliver a final blow....have the other half of Zamasu literally oozing off and falling apart before they defuse. Zamasu laughs at his fortune...it was almost over...the immortal God was almost defeated but HA not today!

Then have Trunks do exactly what he did....minus the Genki-Dama sword. Which in theory should have been pretty damn weak with what like 30 or less people alive on Earth? I mean just say he shaped the sword with his Ki and determination.
I think that Zamasu was weakened because he was fallling appart both physically and mentally, and also because Vegetto.

After seeing the Genki sword and thinking about Kuririn's Kienzan, i'm starting to think that this kind of techniques are more effective than it looks ...........
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Re: How Zamasu should've been defeated

Post by KaioshinRealm » Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:27 pm

Well atleast for me the defeat of Zamasu was a bit rushed, they could've easily waited 5-6 more episodes to finish him off.

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Re: How Zamasu should've been defeated

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:29 pm

Turning his aura into a ki sword was perfectly reasonable to me, but the Spirit-Bomb in addition to it was where I had to cringe. I would have been satisfied if he and Vegito worked together at ther last minute to overpower Zamasu with both of their ki swords. Or if Trunks just came in and stabbed Zamasu from behind while Vegito had him pinned to his own spirit sword, Trunks could have came in to cut him in half the same way he did to Mecha-Freeza, without the need to nerf the Potara or that very corny pep-rally creating a spirit bomb for him out of the blue. I think the problem with the ending was that it crammed in way too much for the episode in order to make it seem climatic, but being all evenly matched with these power ups left and right it only made everything in it look like an asspull.

It should have been:
Ep. 66 Vegito vs. Zamasu (Round One)
Ep. 67 Zamsu counter attacks against Vegito. (Round 2)
Ep. 68 Then Trunks comes in to learn how to make that Ki sword & Zamasu tries his last gambit.
Ep. 69 Zamasu's body breaks down and becomes unstable (in order to weaken him) like the way Cell lost 18.
Ep. 70 Trunks beats Zamasu (maybe if they get the Z-sword to explain it) & Vegito weakens Zamasu enough for Trunks to slice him.
Explanation: The Z-Sword is a sword of the gods, so with Trunks' he is able to kill a god tier character like Zamasu by using it and absorbing its power allowing him to create ki swords. No Spirit Bomb required.
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