Did a quick google search on the term and Future Trunks is nothing like a Gary Stu. I mean, if we're gonna start labelling character as a "Gary Stu" for pull techniques out of their ass, then a good chunk of the cast are Gary Stu's.Alruneia wrote:A Gary Stu is just a male Mary Sue.Lord Beerus wrote:Seriously?The Monkey King wrote:SSJ Gary Stu Trunks vs Whis![]()
I've never even heard of that term.
So he's referring to the Trunks in Episode 66 with the asspull Spirit Bomb ability and all.
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Like which?Lord Beerus wrote:Did a quick google search on the term and Future Trunks is nothing like a Gary Stu. I mean, if we're gonna start labelling character as a "Gary Stu" for pull techniques out of their ass, then a good chunk of the cast are Gary Stu's.
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Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Freeza, Gotenks, Majin Boo and Beerus (Yeah, I went thereNoah wrote:Like which?Lord Beerus wrote:Did a quick google search on the term and Future Trunks is nothing like a Gary Stu. I mean, if we're gonna start labelling character as a "Gary Stu" for pull techniques out of their ass, then a good chunk of the cast are Gary Stu's.
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How far this team goes into DB universe (manga, Z, Super), all are from Toriko -
Grotesque God Acacia, White demon, Current Toriko, Midora, Neo (after eating GOD) vs ???
Each one, versus one person from DBU that can give a good fight (to win or lose).
Grotesque God Acacia VS ???
White Demon VS ???
Midora VS ???
Current Toriko VS ???
Neo (after eating GOD) VS ????
Grotesque God Acacia, White demon, Current Toriko, Midora, Neo (after eating GOD) vs ???
Each one, versus one person from DBU that can give a good fight (to win or lose).
Grotesque God Acacia VS ???
White Demon VS ???
Midora VS ???
Current Toriko VS ???
Neo (after eating GOD) VS ????
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Well, aside from Goku (Mind reading on Namek) and Beerus ("Hakai") other characters like Vegeta, Piccolo and Gotenks using new techniques could all be excusable with training, Majin Boo is a magical demon so it's fine for him have some weird things up his sleeve, but none of these characters have pulled an inexplicable power-up or a new finishing technique out of nowhereLord Beerus wrote:Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Freeza, Gotenks, Majin Boo and Beerus (Yeah, I went thereNoah wrote:Like which?Lord Beerus wrote:Did a quick google search on the term and Future Trunks is nothing like a Gary Stu. I mean, if we're gonna start labelling character as a "Gary Stu" for pull techniques out of their ass, then a good chunk of the cast are Gary Stu's.).
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- Goku pulled SSJ3 out his ass .He stated to Piccolo that he had no idea of how to defeat Majin Boo when he was first released. Yet he apparently could transform into a SSJ3.Noah wrote:Well, aside from Goku (Mind reading on Namek) and Beerus ("Hakai") other characters like Vegeta, Piccolo and Gotenks using new techniques could all be excusable with training, Majin Boo is a magical demon so it's fine for him have some weird things up his sleeve, but none of these characters have pulled an inexplicable power-up or a new finishing technique out of nowhereLord Beerus wrote:Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Freeza, Gotenks, Majin Boo and Beerus (Yeah, I went thereNoah wrote:
Like which?).
- Vegeta's rage boost in Battle Of Gods
- Piccolo fusing with Kami and taking him to a level far beyond the SSJ's
- Gotenks able to rip a hole through dimensions just because he saw Super Boo do it. And being able to suddenly spit out exploding Ghosts.
- YMMV with Majin Boo. Yeah, he is a magical demon, but at the same time, he could mimic any technique he saw. I'll let it pass, but its always kinda bugged me.
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I think part of the reason why Trunks is considered a Gary Stu by some is that, in addition to his out-of nowhere power-ups, he doesn't really have any personality defects like Goku's stupidity or Vegeta's arrogance or Gohan's meekness to get him into trouble.Lord Beerus wrote: - Goku pulled SSJ3 out his ass .He stated to Piccolo that he had no idea of how to defeat Majin Boo when he was first released. Yet he apparently could transform into a SSJ3.
- Vegeta's rage boost in Battle Of Gods
- Piccolo fusing with Kami and taking him to a level far beyond the SSJ's
- Gotenks able to rip a hole through dimensions just because he saw Super Boo do it. And being able to suddenly spit out exploding Ghosts.
- YMMV with Majin Boo. Yeah, he is a magical demon, but at the same time, he could mimic any technique he saw. I'll let it pass, but its always kinda bugged me.
Goku's SS3 was sort of an asspull, but at least it had the explanation that he achieved it through training in the afterlife, and the form didn't really accomplish much in the end. Vegeta's rage boost, while admittedly out of nowhere, didn't do much besides catch Beerus off guard. Piccolo recombining with Kami was a plot point that was foreshadowed all the way back in the Freeza arc, when the Grand Elder berated him for splitting himself and his power in the first place. Gotenks is admittedly full of random abilities that pop up out of nowhere, but again, that is tempered by his character being comprised by nothing but personality defects, and the fact that he had to do a little training to develop them.
Trunks spontaneously developing a pseudo-Super Saiyan Blue form through anger and then spontaneously learning the Genki Dama and absorbing its power and turning it into a sword literally come out of nowhere with no form of foreshadowing what-so-ever.
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Lord Beerus wrote:- Goku pulled SSJ3 out his ass .He stated to Piccolo that he had no idea of how to defeat Majin Boo when he was first released. Yet he apparently could transform into a SSJ3.Noah wrote:Well, aside from Goku (Mind reading on Namek) and Beerus ("Hakai") other characters like Vegeta, Piccolo and Gotenks using new techniques could all be excusable with training, Majin Boo is a magical demon so it's fine for him have some weird things up his sleeve, but none of these characters have pulled an inexplicable power-up or a new finishing technique out of nowhere
- Vegeta's rage boost in Battle Of Gods
- Piccolo fusing with Kami and taking him to a level far beyond the SSJ's
- Gotenks able to rip a hole through dimensions just because he saw Super Boo do it. And being able to suddenly spit out exploding Ghosts.
- YMMV with Majin Boo. Yeah, he is a magical demon, but at the same time, he could mimic any technique he saw. I'll let it pass, but its always kinda bugged me.
- Forgot about Vegeta in BoG, because that was the start of everything
- Super Saiyan 3 was a transformation that he had no pratice yet, he was mainly counting with Fusion, Goku in this arc was dead and had the mentality that the warriors alive should take responsability to protect the Planet, but he had to buy some time for Trunks pick up the Dragon Radar. Some could still find this to be BS by their POV, I respect that, I don't see much as is still excusable with 7 years training in the Other World.
- It had a whole story behind it, it didn't came out of nowhere. After Daimao Arc was told once that Piccolo and Kami were the same being and regarded later by Namek Guru that once merged they could be pretty strong and that without considering Piccolo would sync with Nail (the strongest namekian warrior at time) that gave him a huge boost and after being one with Kami again, I don't see a problem for him to be stronger than the SSJ, after all he would still lose if the androids decided to team up
- I always thought that the hole through dimensions could be something tied between them because they are around the same level, what's the problem with Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack, though? It's a silly technique created by the fusion of two kids that trained a while in the RoSaT
That's the key word! My main problem with Trunks is that his power-ups, new form and "Spirit Bomb Blade" had accomplished much for him in the course of the arc.DanielSSJ wrote:...didn't really accomplish much in the end.
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First: The Second Battle of Gods! Both fighters are at equal power. No instant-win techniques.
Super Saiyan Blue Goku, a Saiyan who reached the realm of gods, VS Universe 7's God of Destruction Beerus
Second: The Battle of Kanzenshuu's Teen Members! Free-for-all; who would come out on top?
Anime Kitten (14) VS Bansho64 (15) VS Khin (15) VS Jinzoningen MULE (17) VS Soppa Saia People (17) VS Alruneia (19) VS Doctor. (19)
Don't know if I'm missing anyone (besides my brother, but he only occasionally posts), but whatever.
Super Saiyan Blue Goku, a Saiyan who reached the realm of gods, VS Universe 7's God of Destruction Beerus
Second: The Battle of Kanzenshuu's Teen Members! Free-for-all; who would come out on top?
Anime Kitten (14) VS Bansho64 (15) VS Khin (15) VS Jinzoningen MULE (17) VS Soppa Saia People (17) VS Alruneia (19) VS Doctor. (19)
Don't know if I'm missing anyone (besides my brother, but he only occasionally posts), but whatever.
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-Beerus should still win, even with equal power the skill gap is too great for Goku to overcome.Anime Kitten wrote:First: The Second Battle of Gods! Both fighters are at equal power. No instant-win techniques.
Super Saiyan Blue Goku, a Saiyan who reached the realm of gods, VS Universe 7's God of Destruction Beerus
Second: The Battle of Kanzenshuu's Teen Members! Free-for-all; who would come out on top?
Anime Kitten (14) VS Bansho64 (15) VS Khin (15) VS Jinzoningen MULE (17) VS Soppa Saia People (17) VS Alruneia (19) VS Doctor. (19)
Don't know if I'm missing anyone (besides my brother, but he only occasionally posts), but whatever.
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Exactly I always though Doctor. was late 20 years old, but he's actually younger than me lolTheUltimateNinja wrote:These people are all much younger than I'd anticipated.
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You're only fourteen?Anime Kitten wrote:Second: The Battle of Kanzenshuu's Teen Members! Free-for-all; who would come out on top?
Anime Kitten (14) VS Bansho64 (15) VS Khin (15) VS Jinzoningen MULE (17) VS Soppa Saia People (17) VS Alruneia (19) VS Doctor. (19)
Don't know if I'm missing anyone (besides my brother, but he only occasionally posts), but whatever.
I can almost guarantee there are more than eight teenagers (counting your brother) on here. They probably just didn't put their birthdates into their profiles.
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Who would win in a drinking contest? You guys can post the order they give up in.
Goku vs Bulma vs Master Roshi vs Vegeta vs Yajirobe vs Mr.Satan vs Tenshinhan vs Gohan vs #18 vs Beerus
Goku vs Bulma vs Master Roshi vs Vegeta vs Yajirobe vs Mr.Satan vs Tenshinhan vs Gohan vs #18 vs Beerus
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I'd probably say Beerus. As smart as Goku is battle wise, I'd still peg Beerus for smarter.Anime Kitten wrote:First: The Second Battle of Gods! Both fighters are at equal power. No instant-win techniques.
Super Saiyan Blue Goku, a Saiyan who reached the realm of gods, VS Universe 7's God of Destruction Beerus
I used to play tag football, so I may hold from that. I'm a fairly husky dude and I'm of average height (5'10.5), so I may be able to hold my own. I'd at least survive the first 1 or 2 people that I fight.Anime Kitten wrote:Second: The Battle of Kanzenshuu's Teen Members! Free-for-all; who would come out on top?
Anime Kitten (14) VS Bansho64 (15) VS Khin (15) VS Jinzoningen MULE (17) VS Soppa Saia People (17) VS Alruneia (19) VS Doctor. (19)
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- Well, we all know that Gohan is a lightweight, so he's out.LightBing wrote:Who would win in a drinking contest? You guys can post the order they give up in.
Goku vs Bulma vs Master Roshi vs Vegeta vs Yajirobe vs Mr.Satan vs Tenshinhan vs Gohan vs #18 vs Beerus
- Goku probably has no experience drinking.
- Vegeta doesn't strike me as much of a drinker, either. Maybe it would help him relax?
- A super dedicated martial artist like Tenshinhan probably avoids alcohol all together.
- Beerus strikes me as a fine wine kinda guy, but somehow I doubt he'd be a heavy drinker. Then again, if poison doesn't work on him, maybe he has a high tolerance for alcohol, too.
- No idea about No. 18.
- Yajirobe seems like the kinda guy who would indulge once in a while, but I doubt Karin keeps beer stocked up.
- Bulma and Mr. Satan definitely enjoy drinking, but I'd say that 300 year old Muten Roshi has 'em all beat. The guy turned drunken stumbling into a potent martial arts discipline, so I would assume that he's got more than a little experience.
All in all, I'd say that Muten Roshi likely wins the contest.
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My kind of answer.DanielSSJ wrote:- Well, we all know that Gohan is a lightweight, so he's out.LightBing wrote:Who would win in a drinking contest? You guys can post the order they give up in.
Goku vs Bulma vs Master Roshi vs Vegeta vs Yajirobe vs Mr.Satan vs Tenshinhan vs Gohan vs #18 vs Beerus
- Goku probably has no experience drinking.
- Vegeta doesn't strike me as much of a drinker, either. Maybe it would help him relax?![]()
- A super dedicated martial artist like Tenshinhan probably avoids alcohol all together.
- Beerus strikes me as a fine wine kinda guy, but somehow I doubt he'd be a heavy drinker. Then again, if poison doesn't work on him, maybe he has a high tolerance for alcohol, too.
- No idea about No. 18.
- Yajirobe seems like the kinda guy who would indulge once in a while, but I doubt Karin keeps beer stocked up.
- Bulma and Mr. Satan definitely enjoy drinking, but I'd say that 300 year old Muten Roshi has 'em all beat. The guy turned drunken stumbling into a potent martial arts discipline, so I would assume that he's got more than a little experience.
All in all, I'd say that Muten Roshi likely wins the contest.
Beerus drank a whole barrel of bear in the last manga chapter. I wonder if the Saiyans have any resistance to alcohol?
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Gohan can't handle this. He refuses to take part.LightBing wrote:Who would win in a drinking contest? You guys can post the order they give up in.
Goku vs Bulma vs Master Roshi vs Vegeta vs Yajirobe vs Mr.Satan vs Tenshinhan vs Gohan vs #18 vs Beerus
Roshi gets unconscious and starts a nosebleed.
Yajirobe pukes out.
Tenshinhan gets unconscious, with a creepy smile on his face.
Mr Satan falls asleep, with liquor spilling all over his face and clothes.
This leaves Bulma, #18, Goku, Vegeta, Beerus
Goku and vegeta decide to not give up despite already being full, due to rivalry. However, they are caught (by bulma) cheating by throwing the drinks under the table.
#18 gives up.
Bulma and Beerus are the last 2 remaining. They drink at high speed, continue till they clear all the drinks available in the city. Goku goes to teleport some shops in.
Eventually, even bulma falls down. THE GOD OF DESTRUCTION reigns supreme. Beerus lays on his chair, stretching his arms, while suddenly, a crack is heard and a tear is observed in the skin of purple god.
Vegeta, observing that, realizes that it is a costume, not the real beerus and tears it apart, revealing this guy:

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I'm 16.Anime Kitten wrote:First: The Second Battle of Gods! Both fighters are at equal power. No instant-win techniques.
Super Saiyan Blue Goku, a Saiyan who reached the realm of gods, VS Universe 7's God of Destruction Beerus
Second: The Battle of Kanzenshuu's Teen Members! Free-for-all; who would come out on top?
Anime Kitten (14) VS Bansho64 (15) VS Khin (15) VS Jinzoningen MULE (17) VS Soppa Saia People (17) VS Alruneia (19) VS Doctor. (19)
Don't know if I'm missing anyone (besides my brother, but he only occasionally posts), but whatever.
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I see; in that case, I'll update it:Sailor Haumea wrote:I'm 16.
Anime Kitten (14) VS Bansho64 (15) VS Khin (15) VS Sailor Haumea (16) VS Jinzoningen MULE (17) VS Soppa Saia People (17) VS Alruneia (19) VS Doctor. (19)
This time, real world logic doesn't need to apply.
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New fights featuring the weaker earthlings!
Assume all characters are from the Anime. All characters are unarmed and their gimmicks (like Boss Carrot's gloves, Buyon's durability hax) are removed unless explicitly stated:
1.Bulma VS Lunch (Good)
2.Puar VS Upa
3.Oolong VS Pilaf
4.Shu VS Mai
5.Rabbit Gang Thugs VS Farmer Without Shotgun
6.Silver VS Bear Bandit
7.Murasaki VS Kuririn (Initial)
8.Ranfan VS Mr. Satan
9.Orin Temple's #1 VS Yamcha (Initial)
10.Bacterian VS Goku (Initial)
Also, how strong do you think Chichi (Initial) and Dende (Pre potential unlock) are?
Assume all characters are from the Anime. All characters are unarmed and their gimmicks (like Boss Carrot's gloves, Buyon's durability hax) are removed unless explicitly stated:
1.Bulma VS Lunch (Good)
2.Puar VS Upa
3.Oolong VS Pilaf
4.Shu VS Mai
5.Rabbit Gang Thugs VS Farmer Without Shotgun
6.Silver VS Bear Bandit
7.Murasaki VS Kuririn (Initial)
8.Ranfan VS Mr. Satan
9.Orin Temple's #1 VS Yamcha (Initial)
10.Bacterian VS Goku (Initial)
Also, how strong do you think Chichi (Initial) and Dende (Pre potential unlock) are?
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