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I don't think Sumitomo has pushed out anything in Super that I would consider great or maybe even good. Yes, even Goku Black's theme when he first appeared. I've seen many say that his current stuff for the FT arc is good but I don't see it. It's still all mediocore for me.
His original tracks from BOG are awesome. And some of those Kai 2.0 tracks were beautiful. But his current stuff is "eh" level in my opinion.
The person that I think we SHOULD'VE gotten is Hiroshi Takaki. His music for Ultimate Blast and Plan to Eradicate The Super Saiyans was awesome.
His original tracks from BOG are awesome. And some of those Kai 2.0 tracks were beautiful. But his current stuff is "eh" level in my opinion.
The person that I think we SHOULD'VE gotten is Hiroshi Takaki. His music for Ultimate Blast and Plan to Eradicate The Super Saiyans was awesome.
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I really like his "Birth of a God" trackBansho64 wrote:I don't think Sumitomo has pushed out anything in Super that I would consider great or maybe even good. Yes, even Goku Black's theme when he first appeared. I've seen many say that his current stuff for the FT arc is good but I don't see it. It's still all mediocore for me.
His original tracks from BOG are awesome. And some of those Kai 2.0 tracks were beautiful. But his current stuff is "eh" level.
The person that I think we SHOULD'VE gotten is Hiroshi Takaki. His music for Ultimate Blast and Plan to Eradicate The Super Saiyans was awesome.
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I dunno, man. I mean, he's no Kikuchi, but I been loving his music on episodes 64-66. Even if its too try hard and desperate to make us feel...well, desperate! Its "DESPERATE AND BLEAK SITUATION ALL THE TIME" even in the hopeful Next Episode Preview to 67! Its indeed almost as if Rob Liefeld picked the placing.
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I liked the Zamasu "mystery" theme. No idea what it's actually called, but I'm sure we all know the one. Otherwise, I agree.Bansho64 wrote:I don't think Sumitomo has pushed out anything in Super that I would consider great or maybe even good. Yes, even Goku Black's theme when he first appeared.
I didn't find him all that impressive either. I want someone else that innovates, that has a notable (and good) style. I don't know who that is, but it certainly isn't any of Kikuchi's successors so far.Bansho64 wrote:The person that I think we SHOULD'VE gotten is Hiroshi Takaki. His music for Ultimate Blast and Plan to Eradicate The Super Saiyans was awesome.
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There's also the "Believe In Yourself" and "The Earth's Fate" track. Those are pretty good, too.
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I'll throw some heresy into the discussion and say that I'm a fan of most of Mr. Sumitomo's tracks from both Super and Resurrection 'F'. 
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I don' think they're necessarily bad, not most of them, anyway. But they aren't unique, they aren't interesting, and they aren't innovative. These are things that us audiophiles want, especially in Dragon Ball.Anime Kitten wrote:I'll throw some heresy into the discussion and say that I'm a fan of most of Mr. Sumitomo's tracks from both Super and Resurrection 'F'.
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I find them unique and interesting. Differing tastes, I suppose.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:I don' think they're necessarily bad, not most of them, anyway. But they aren't unique, they aren't interesting, and they aren't innovative. These are things that us audiophiles want, especially in Dragon Ball.
On a related note, here's a new one for the topic: I don't like most of Mr. Kikuchi's "action" tracks. To me, they're too calm for an intense battle. Of course, there are some exceptions, such as The Monster Freeza VS The Legendary Super Saiyan, but in a general sense, I tend to find them uninteresting for their purpose.
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It takes a "fast" approach, rather than a loud one. It's a quality I appreciate.Anime Kitten wrote:I find them unique and interesting. Differing tastes, I suppose.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:I don' think they're necessarily bad, not most of them, anyway. But they aren't unique, they aren't interesting, and they aren't innovative. These are things that us audiophiles want, especially in Dragon Ball.
On a related note, here's a new one for the topic: I don't like most of Mr. Kikuchi's "action" tracks. To me, they're too calm for an intense battle. Of course, there are some exceptions, such as The Monster Freeza VS The Legendary Super Saiyan, but in a general sense, I tend to find them uninteresting for their purpose.
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I was glad with the apparent culling of any more Super Saiyan forms after BoG and making the first the only one left.
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Yamchas a good character. He's just fucked over by the plot.
Vegetas the most over rated character by far.
Kid trunks is a good character imo
Gotenks is the best fusion
Kid boo is my favorite villian
Whis isn't that good of a character.
Vegetas the most over rated character by far.
Kid trunks is a good character imo
Gotenks is the best fusion
Kid boo is my favorite villian
Whis isn't that good of a character.
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I think the Bebi saga in GT is overrated. I'm surprise how many people like it recently when I think it's okay at best. I don't think that's original when they just rehash the same idea that The Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans had. I also feel like it also mixed ideas from the Garlic Jr, Cell saga and Buu saga.
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Well I definitely agree with all of those except for the last two. And I agree in regards to Vegeta only in certain points of the series. The rest? I whole-heartedly agree.kinisking wrote:Yamchas a good character. He's just fucked over by the plot.
Vegetas the most over rated character by far.
Kid trunks is a good character imo
Gotenks is the best fusion
Kid boo is my favorite villian
Whis isn't that good of a character.
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There are too many weeaboos in the Dragon Ball fandom who like things just because they're Japanese.
My sig is a good example.
My sig is a good example.
Then they added them all back and introduced like three more.ekrolo2 wrote:I was glad with the apparent culling of any more Super Saiyan forms after BoG and making the first the only one left.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Are you trying to say the person was apparently a "weaboo" because they liked "Dan Dan"? Or what? Because that sounds kinda pretentious if that's what you're hinting.RandomGuy96 wrote:There are too many weeaboos in the Dragon Ball fandom who like things just because they're Japanese.
My sig is a good example.
Also, I've never seen these "weaboos" that you're apparently seeing in our fandom. I'm not saying they aren't there but I've certainly never seen them.
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No, I'm saying that this person clearly only thought that the song was a masterpiece that represented the essence of Dragon Ball because it was Japanese. It was a pop song about a guy bitching about having a crush on someone else's girlfriend. If the song was in English, no one would think it an appropriate intro, much less "the very essence of Dragon Ball".Bansho64 wrote:Are you trying to say the person was apparently a "weaboo" because they liked "Dan Dan"? Or what? Because that sounds kinda pretentious if that's what you're hinting.RandomGuy96 wrote:There are too many weeaboos in the Dragon Ball fandom who like things just because they're Japanese.
My sig is a good example.
Also, I've never seen these "weaboos" that you're apparently seeing in our fandom. I'm not saying they aren't there but I've certainly never seen them.
I can link like several examples off the top of my head on this forum. Here's one. Also, an oldie but a goodie.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Where in the world did you even slightly get the notion that he only liked it because it was Japanese? Nothing like that was even hinted in there. Plus, I've met numerous others who like the English version of that song and they share the sentiments that it was an appropriate intro. It really sounds like you're digging for something that isn't even there.RandomGuy96 wrote: No, I'm saying that this person clearly only thought that the song was a masterpiece that represented the essence of Dragon Ball because it was Japanese. It was a pop song about a guy bitching about having a crush on someone else's girlfriend. If the song was in English, no one would think it an appropriate intro, much less "the very essence of Dragon Ball".
I can link like several examples off the top of my head on this forum. Here's one. Also, an oldie but a goodie.
As for the first link, I don't have anything to counter that. As for the second one, the user actually listed reasons why he would wanna move there, including entertainment and improved technology. He's not discrediting his own culture in any way or suggesting that anything Japanese is amazing. While I wouldn't suggest moving there on a whim such as that one, it's not "weaboo-ish" in the slightest. Maybe slightly misinformed, but definitely not the idea that you're suggesting.
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TBf, that 2nd had one of the best respones by RocketmanRandomGuy96 wrote:No, I'm saying that this person clearly only thought that the song was a masterpiece that represented the essence of Dragon Ball because it was Japanese. It was a pop song about a guy bitching about having a crush on someone else's girlfriend. If the song was in English, no one would think it an appropriate intro, much less "the very essence of Dragon Ball".Bansho64 wrote:Are you trying to say the person was apparently a "weaboo" because they liked "Dan Dan"? Or what? Because that sounds kinda pretentious if that's what you're hinting.RandomGuy96 wrote:There are too many weeaboos in the Dragon Ball fandom who like things just because they're Japanese.
My sig is a good example.
Also, I've never seen these "weaboos" that you're apparently seeing in our fandom. I'm not saying they aren't there but I've certainly never seen them.
I can link like several examples off the top of my head on this forum. Here's one. Also, an oldie but a goodie.
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Might be unpopular, might not, but I liked the Potafeu "mini-arc".
It was great. The whole power drain deal gave the arc some tension, the designs were nice (I liked Gryll's gang, and the drippy Commeson clones), and it was entertaining.
It was great. The whole power drain deal gave the arc some tension, the designs were nice (I liked Gryll's gang, and the drippy Commeson clones), and it was entertaining.
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I know, and its annoyingRandomGuy96 wrote:Then they added them all back and introduced like three more.ekrolo2 wrote:I was glad with the apparent culling of any more Super Saiyan forms after BoG and making the first the only one left.
I was willing to let Blue slide even though it's a lazy rehash so long as it was their only form going forward but now they're all more or less back in some way.
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