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ShadowBardock89 wrote:So, what is your opinion of Super DBH compared to the original game?
They started us off with a rather unexpected What-If, so that's a bonus I guess. Besides that? I generally like everything I've seen about the game's upgrades and we haven't be able to witness the "story" in action yet, so there's not much to comment on for me. My biggest concerns are mostly aesthetic.

1.) I'm not a fan of the graphics. The shading is weird and I really wish they had used this opportunity to discard Dimps' Budokai models (though I understand why they didn't; that's a lot of characters to remake).

2.) I hope the people recording the missions don't miss anything important while playing, now that the arcade machine has a lower display screen. I don't know what all will be shown on the bottom screen, but since players now have to use their hands for the cards and touch actions, the camera may remain even more stationary.
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:36 am

Well my little theory of SSJ3 Raditz hair getting shorter is now caput. I knew it made no sense, but oh well. :lol:

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Post by Travis Touchdown » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:39 am

Does Raditz'sin in game model have crazy long hair or is it just that card image? If it's just the card image I wouldn't take that too seriously since there's that ssj3 Gogeta image and ssj3 Trunks image that have way more hair than your average ssj3 for no reason.
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Travis Touchdown wrote:Does Raditz'sin in game model have crazy long hair or is it just that card image? If it's just the card image I wouldn't take that too seriously since there's that ssj3 Gogeta image and ssj3 Trunks image that have way more hair than your average ssj3 for no reason.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:In-game confirmation that SS3 Raditz has a hair problem. The tips of his golden locks clip through the stage floor, even when he floats.
Seems we have at least 3 dialogue missions this time in the Demon God Towa Arc (of the grander Dark Empire Arc):
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Post by ShadowBardock89 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:23 am

Travis Touchdown wrote:Does Raditz'sin in game model have crazy long hair or is it just that card image? If it's just the card image I wouldn't take that too seriously since there's that ssj3 Gogeta image and ssj3 Trunks image that have way more hair than your average ssj3 for no reason.
Look at the clips people have posted or the picture Xeogran posted. He does have crazy long hair.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=40715&start=20#p1439892
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Post by GTx10 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:11 pm

Speaking of Dimps models, has anyone ever extracted the Budokai and Tenkaichi Budokai models for outside game use?

Also Raditz is no longer the weakest. That title belongs to Nappa or Tarble... I don't know which.
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Post by Steven Bloodriver » Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:40 pm

GTx10 wrote:Speaking of Dimps models, has anyone ever extracted the Budokai and Tenkaichi Budokai models for outside game use?

Also Raditz is no longer the weakest. That title belongs to Nappa or Tarble... I don't know which.
Nappa should be weaker than Tarble.

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Post by GTx10 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:43 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
GTx10 wrote:Speaking of Dimps models, has anyone ever extracted the Budokai and Tenkaichi Budokai models for outside game use?

Also Raditz is no longer the weakest. That title belongs to Nappa or Tarble... I don't know which.
Nappa should be weaker than Tarble.
Based on the notion that Tarble escaped from a Freeza level foe?
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Post by alakazam^ » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:42 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Seems we have at least 3 dialogue missions this time in the Demon God Towa Arc (of the grander Dark Empire Arc):
Demon God Towa - So, how is it? This body that got the power of a Demon God?
Trunks: Xeno - Towa! The power of a Demon God, you say? I feel a tremendous power... Be careful!

Demon God Towa - It seems you also got a little stronger but... you can't beat us with that level. Keep on struggling!
Trunks: Xeno - Wait! Towa! ... She got away.

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Trunks: Xeno - I won't let this world be conquered by the Dark Empire!
Demon God Towa - I see, you'll stand in my way no matter where...! This is where I'll bring you down! Prepare yourself!

Demon God Towa - Ku... I'll retreat for now! But remember this, the Dark Empire will surely conquer all! Ohohoho...
Trunks: Xeno - She got away...! This looks like it'll be a long battle... Please lend me your strength again when the Dark Empire army attacks next!

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Trunks: Xeno - The fight with the Dark Empire army will be even more fierce from now on. Will you train with me and help prepare for that time? ... Thanks! Let's not go easy on each other!

Might as well post this:

Producer Higuchi: What is the highlight of "Future Trunks arc"?
Nozawa-san: I say this every time, but it's all of it! That's what I think when watching it.
Horikawa-san: Even watching by myself (after the recording is over), I get excited.
Nozawa-san: Let me step in and say that I get irritated with the enemy (Goku Black)!
Producer Higuchi: What about Trunks?
Horikawa-san: As his father, I think he's a truly wonderful son. Maybe it has to do with his upbringing. *laughter*

Tsubasa: Is it really hard to play both roles?
Nozawa-san: I've never thought it was hard. That's because I become that role when I see the picture. But, Goku Black really gets on my nerves.
Tsubasa: In Goku and Goku Blacks' fight, whose feelings are you fighting with?
Nozawa-san: Usually, I get angry and fight feeling like Goku, but I get a little cocky in those scenes where Goku Black is acting all superior.

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Post by KND » Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:41 pm

Rinsankajugin wrote:Alright, as far as I know, here's the amount of character that still are NOT in Heroes:

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  • Kid Chi-Chi
    Chi-Chi
    Infected Chi-Chi
    Ox-King
    Blue Launch (SP card)
    Blonde Launch
    Pilaf Machine Gattai
    Shu Machine Gattai
    Mai Machine Gattai
    Major Metallitron
    Giran
    Nam
    King Chappa
    Bacterian
    Ranfan (SP card)
    King Gurumes
    Lucifer
    Fangs
    Bandages
    See-Through
    Spike
    Grandpa Gohan
    Arale
    Obotchaman
    Dr. Mashirito
    Infected Bulma
    Infected Videl
    Gine (SP card)
    Dende (SP card)
    Gryll
    Copy-Gryll
    Copy-Vegeta
    Future Mai
    Ascended Super Trunks
    Mutant Merged Zamasu
    Giant Mutant Merged Zamasu
    Papaya Man
    Bra
    Infected Bra
    Ledgic
    Elder Pan
    Goku Jr.
    SSJ Goku Jr.
    Vegeta Jr.
    SSJ Vegeta Jr.
    Onio
    SSJ Onio
    Honey (SP card)
    Sachie
    Zarid
    Mil
    Crate
    Kucho
    Jiya
    Steth
    Vamp
    Galactic King (SP card)
    Majin Ozotto
    Super Ozotto
    Dr. Mashiccolo
    Cell (Krillin Absorbed)
    Super Buu (Vegeta Absorbed)
    Super Buu (Frieza Absorbed)
    Super Buu (Cell Absorbed)
    Super Buu (Tiencha Absorbed)
    SSJ2 Future Gohan
    Potential Unleashed Future Gohan
    Miss Buu
    Churai
    Narak
    Great Namek Narak
    Bongo
    Gamelan
    General White II
    9/Cyborg Red
    8000
    19000
    Captain Bacterian
    Cell-X
    Cell-X Jr.
    Ace
    Kaioken Ace
    SSJ Ace
    Super Ace
    SSJ2 Ace
    SSJ3 Ace
    Potential Unleashed Ace
    Time Breaker Ace
    Tekka
    Pinich
    SSJ Pinich
    Tekich
    Half SSJ Tekich
    EX Gogeta
    EX Gotenks
    Tiencha
    Failed Tiencha
    EX Tiencha
    Prilin
    EX Prilin
    Natz
    Rappa (EX Natz)
    Recooter
    Guice
    Pineta
    Perfect 16
    Cellza
    Damira
    Android 1718
    Yameta
    Fooler
    Kuhan
    Great Saiyaman 12
    Colohan
    Pickon
    Gorilin
    Krigohan
    Chiaoldo
    Vegenks
    Dodorbon
    Ginyuman
    Burce
    Reculdo
    Chiaoen
    Barotto
    Android 1920
    Android 1617
    Cell 17
    Majin Satan
    Janembuu
    Karoly
    Arale 18
    Chiaomen
    Brapan
    Nuova Shenku
    Janks
    Towane
    Ginyuza
    Beerwhis
    Great Jaco
    Tatz
    Pandel
    Kibiccolo-Kai
    Kibeerus-Kai
    Demon King Daccolo
    Taks
    Great Satanman
    Gorus
    EX Trunks
    Karoly Black
    Saiyan Maxi-Fusion (Male/Female)
    Human Maxi-Fusion (Male/Female)
    Otherworlder Maxi-Fusion (Male/Female)
    Alien Maxi-Fusion (Male/Female)
    Namekian Maxi-Fusion
    Ultimate Maxi-Fusion
    Super Oozaru Ultimate Maxi-Fusion
    SSJ Great Saiyaman
    Kaioken Krillin
    Kaioken Yamcha
    Dark Satan
    Villainous Vegeta
    Villainous Gohan
    Villainous Gotenks
    Villainous Trunks
    Villainous Frieza
    Villainous Cell
    Villainous Buu
    Villainous Broly
    Dark Turles
    Dark Slug
    Supervillain Yamcha
    Supervillain Frieza
    Supervillain Cooler
    Supervillain Cell
    Supervillain Broly
    Supervillain Buu
    Supervillain Janemba
    Supervillain Omega Shenron
    Supervillain Mira
    Final Form Mira
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How can you have this huge list of obscures characters and forget Yakon? C`mon Yakon was in the Z part of the story! We have some random Paragus hencmen in-game and no Yakon. No in-game Yakon drives me mad. This game makes no sense.
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Post by Noah » Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:13 pm

Is there a animated clip showing SSJ3 Raditz?
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Post by Goresh » Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:49 pm

This is the best clip I can find so far of Vegito Blue in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yeerp2I5Bw
NOA is a pretty well-known youtuber in the DBH community so it was only a matter of time before he released some Vegito gameplay.

As you can see his team is basically just revolving around Tarble by using his passive ability to buff up everyone else during Round 1. This is a different strategy than what I had originally envisioned for Vegito Blue but he is just so overpowered that it does not really matter from what angle you decide to destroy your opponent.

At 4:30 you can see Vegito's Lock-on Card Action Ability go into effect, which to reiterate, increases Super Attack damage by 3x. NOA decides to partner this ability with Hit's Lock-on ability that reduces the targeted enemy's Guard to 0 for the current round.

At 4:45 the Battle Power measurements are shown, and you will notice that NOA's team has an extremely high Battle Power (42,599). This is mainly due to HGD7-SEC1 Gotenks: Xeno's passive ability that adds the sum of his Power and Guard stats directly to Battle Power in Round 2. Why does Gotenks have so much Power to contribute to Battle Power you may ask? The answer is because of Tarble. Tarble is considered by most people to be the most overpowered and broken unit in the game. His passive ability increases the Power stat of all allies by 5,000 each time he is attacked. Since Merged Zamasu attacks 3 times during Round 1 in this mission, that directly translates to 15,000 additional, permanent Battle Power for every unit on NOA's team. This is why you will often see Tarble tanking enemy attacks as a solo attacker during Round 1. This additional Power gained by Gotenks thanks to Tarble will then be added to Battle Power, therefore gaining NOA's team 10 Energy, which triggers Vegito Blue's passive ability.

At 5:47 Vegito Blue's passive activates, further increasing the damage of his Super Attack and reducing the enemy team's Energy to 0. This effect combined with his Lock-on ability's 3x Super Attack damage increase, Hit's Lock-on skill that reduced the enemy's Guard to 0, and Tarble's 15,000 Power boost is enough to completely incinerate Merged Zamasu. 69,014 from a single unit's Super Attack in Round 2. That kind of damage is complete insanity, but I still believe that a team revolving around a more aggressive approach to take further advantage of Vegito Blue's passive skill would be more efficient simply because the Power boost from Tarble is overkill in my opinion.

That's it for my analysis on this video. Tomorrow I want to show you guys a team that I think would be an overall better fit for Vegito.

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Post by Rinsankajugin » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:50 am

Oh, you know what would be funny? If the following characters were added in the future...

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  • Teen Goku
    Oozaru Teen Goku
    Grandpa Gohan w/ Power Pole
    Chi-Chi McRoberts
    Bulma Enchanto
    Jeep Yamcha
    Not-so-old Roshi
    Assassin Mai
    Fu-Lum
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    Neo Armored Piccolo
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Post by Travis Touchdown » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:57 am

Huh. So Raditz's hair is crazy long. That's funny since that's in direct contradiction to Berserker's SSJ3 hair not growing.
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Post by Grimlock » Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:46 pm

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:38 pm

They were seen on missions selection screens in promotional content. The possession auras weren't active, but the eyes were red.
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Post by Grimlock » Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:15 pm

Super Saiyan 2 Bardock's hair is still wrong! Damn, Heroes! Just damn you! :x
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