dbzfan7 wrote:I listed the moves apparently covered. I'm very curious as to how things are different now.
If you're a huge PvP player like myself you'd know that these changes are huge but I'm going to guess you're not, right? In that case the changes are't that big for you.
A lot of the moves you listed were the go-to moves if you wanted a huge advantage in a competitive battle. Now since that's no longer the case people are going to have to drastically change their play style if those were the moves they heavily relied on (which is a lot of people).
"I am neither Goku nor Vegeta! I am the one who will defeat you!!" - Gogeta
dbzfan7 wrote:I listed the moves apparently covered. I'm very curious as to how things are different now.
If you're a huge PvP player like myself you'd know that these changes are huge but I'm going to guess you're not, right? In that case the changes are't that big for you.
A lot of the moves you listed were the go-to moves if you wanted a huge advantage in a competitive battle. Now since that's no longer the case people are going to have to drastically change their play style if those were the moves they heavily relied on (which is a lot of people).
I don't know how they're different. I will get into PVP eventually, but I like completing everything else first. Still curious to the buffs, nerfs, and changes. I can probably guess the answers to a couple of the listed moves.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Off the top of my head these are the ones I know of so far.
Justice Combination:
If your opponent uses JC you can now vanish behind them for a counterattack if you have enough stamina.
Saiyan Spirit & Super Dragon Fist:
You no longer need to stamina break your opponent for it to connect. They can still vanish out of it however so performing a stamina break is still your best bet on landing it.
God of Destruction’s Anger:
No longer does a regular hard stamina break. It still breaks your stamina but nowhere near as long.
Meteor Crash:
Reduction in damage.
Phantom Fist:
You now can't spam this move to evade all incoming attacks.
Reverse Mabakusenko:
Spamming this move will now cost you Ki.
"I am neither Goku nor Vegeta! I am the one who will defeat you!!" - Gogeta
I knew once the TFS guys talked about how good Meteor Crash was, it was gonna get nerfed. Buh Bye Puddin Pummel XD.
I'm curious to if x20 got buffed or nerfed. I found Serious Bomb out damaged and hit about the same amount of times as x20, so I switched to it.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Damn, you wait a week for the Medal Shop to open it and it doesn't bring anything new/interesting. Well, at least I got two interesting Super Souls, one of them I was looking for as a matter of fact.
BlazingBarrrager wrote:Hmm...hopefully Dragon Fist can now hit as well. XD
I've just been playing SSJ4 Goku since the update went live and DF has been working great for me so far.
Then that's a good sign. Hmm...going to have to rethink my PvP build.
Female Saiyan. Ki, Strike, or Hybrid, because they have the strongest Ki and Strike Supers/Ults in the game (this has been tested).
I'd like to see where those tests were.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
MCDaveG wrote:Still suck at this game, depends on the character if I can win simple versus. That AI is not so smart, but unforgiving with X vanish and stamina break.
By the way, how do you get alternate ending? Because I measured it and spammed the hell out of Supernova in the last fight with Mira and got him under 2 minutes and nothing!
Tried it few times with different approach and still nothing. I am starting to be pissed of everytime I see Goku's Ryu Ken.
So there must be something more to it definitely. I am level 80.
+ how do you pass the super test? I am maxed and can train with all mentors, but thet robot near Orange High School doesn't offer anything.
I have the eggs
Thanks a lot guys, I will try Mira again today. By the way, I have 2 of those tests on S
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Soppa Saia People wrote:It's pretty weak (according to Reddit) and more importantly, the hit box is just so odd.
Weak? It's just supposed to be Vegeta's equivalent to Goku's Super Kamehameha. Hell, it even does more damage then the Super Kamehameha. It's just fine for what it is.
Wasn't brave enough to go for online yet, but looks like that after the 1.3 update, the server was OK and the game never disconnected.
Will probably finish last few PQ's myself and then hit the online play finally!
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Trust me, I'm millenial and a designer.
Tsufuru wrote:so i STILL dont have this game .
how would you guys rate this game?
A 7 o 7'5 maybe. Lots of improvements since the first one, but lots of improvements to be made still. For me, one of those improvements being the story. Let's skip this retelling already and try something new.
Tsufuru wrote:so i STILL dont have this game .
how would you guys rate this game?
A 7 o 7'5 maybe. Lots of improvements since the first one, but lots of improvements to be made still. For me, one of those improvements being the story. Let's skip this retelling already and try something new.
yes, the story needs to be changed more and they should really make all clothes colorable , its annoying as hell.
dbzfan7 wrote:I knew once the TFS guys talked about how good Meteor Crash was, it was gonna get nerfed. Buh Bye Puddin Pummel XD.
They'll find another exploit in good time
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
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