The ending of this arc is great

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The ending of this arc is great

Post by zamasu121 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:55 pm

The ending of this arc is great. You know why? Because the villain actually won this time. I was getting tired of the happy ending nonsense, so this ending is really refreshing.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:16 pm

How did he win? He was obliterated and his universe was erased. He lost in the worst way imaginable.

His goal was never to vaporize the universe; he loved his world, but hated the humans that inhabited it because of the destruction they caused. Guess what? He was right. Everything he feared came true: a human led to the destruction of his universe. In the end, Zamasu was in fact the good guy in this picture, and he failed to protect what he loved by an idiot human.
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Re: the ending of this arc is great

Post by Cetra » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:20 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:How did he win? He was obliterated and his universe was erased. He lost in the worst way imaginable.

His goal was never to vaporize the universe; he loved his world, but hated the humans that inhabited it because of the destruction they caused. Guess what? He was right. Everything he feared came true: a human led to the destruction of his universe. In the end, Zamasu was in fact the good guy in this picture, and he failed to protect what he loved by an idiot human.
He was so powerful in the end and unstoppable that no one except the #1 could do anything. Seems like a win in some other context.
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Re: the ending of this arc is great

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:38 pm

Zamasu ultimately succeeded in killing every mortal in Future Trunks' world, apart from Future Trunk and Mai, but still died. He won but... he didn't really win... but kinda still won.

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Post by Doctor. » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:39 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:How did he win? He was obliterated and his universe was erased. He lost in the worst way imaginable.

His goal was never to vaporize the universe; he loved his world, but hated the humans that inhabited it because of the destruction they caused. Guess what? He was right. Everything he feared came true: a human led to the destruction of his universe. In the end, Zamasu was in fact the good guy in this picture, and he failed to protect what he loved by an idiot human.
I think that's the point. Zamasu won because they had no other choice but to literally cheat to win against him and he also won ideologically.

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Post by Shinomori » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:39 pm

He technically won for a while, in an even better way than he thought he could. He literally became the universe! Yet in the end, Zeno showed him where he could go. As for the ending, I didn't like how everyone was killed. However, destroying Trunks' timeline, the same one that keeps falling into despair where he has to come back to the present for help, was probably the most fitting ending that could have happened. I actually give Super credit for thinking of that.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:44 pm

Doctor. wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:How did he win? He was obliterated and his universe was erased. He lost in the worst way imaginable.

His goal was never to vaporize the universe; he loved his world, but hated the humans that inhabited it because of the destruction they caused. Guess what? He was right. Everything he feared came true: a human led to the destruction of his universe. In the end, Zamasu was in fact the good guy in this picture, and he failed to protect what he loved by an idiot human.
I think that's the point. Zamasu won because they had no other choice but to literally cheat to win against him and he also won ideologically.
But that's not a victory. He lost everything. EVERYTHING. His body, his soul, and his universe. Everything he obtained and fought for...gone. He wasn't THAT one-dimensional, where all he desired was the death of mortals. He wanted this for a reason. Otherwise, he would have just used the Super Dragon Balls to erase the universe.
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Post by Doctor. » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:46 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:How did he win? He was obliterated and his universe was erased. He lost in the worst way imaginable.

His goal was never to vaporize the universe; he loved his world, but hated the humans that inhabited it because of the destruction they caused. Guess what? He was right. Everything he feared came true: a human led to the destruction of his universe. In the end, Zamasu was in fact the good guy in this picture, and he failed to protect what he loved by an idiot human.
I think that's the point. Zamasu won because they had no other choice but to literally cheat to win against him and he also won ideologically.
But that's not a victory. He lost everything. EVERYTHING. His body, his soul, and his universe. Everything he obtained and fought for...gone. He wasn't THAT one-dimensional, where all he desired was the death of mortals. He wanted this for a reason. Otherwise, he would have just used the Super Dragon Balls to erase the universe.
He won metaphorically, obviously nobody's saying that he LITERALLY won.

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Re: the ending of this arc is great

Post by precita » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:47 pm

I don't get it, are some of you bothered you didn't get a generic happy ending where everyone is OK in the end? Its different than anything we had before.

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Post by Faisal Shourov » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:47 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:How did he win? He was obliterated and his universe was erased. He lost in the worst way imaginable.

His goal was never to vaporize the universe; he loved his world, but hated the humans that inhabited it because of the destruction they caused. Guess what? He was right. Everything he feared came true: a human led to the destruction of his universe. In the end, Zamasu was in fact the good guy in this picture, and he failed to protect what he loved by an idiot human.
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Post by Shinomori » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:49 pm

zamasu121 wrote:you know why? because the villain actually won this time. i was getting tired of those happy ending nonsense, so this ending is really refreshing.
Though technically, Frieza won as well. They just cheated with Whis' time technique, much like they cheated with Zeno. I can understand Beerus' comment to Goku in saying they need to stop relying on gods so much.

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Post by Boo Machine » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:50 pm

The ending still has me in giggles. I'm so used to Dragonball wrapping everything up in a nice bow by the end of a saga, and was waiting for that to happen again, only for them to just nuke everything and everybody in the future timeline and Trunks and mai being forced to live in a non destroyed similar timeline. I.was. not. prepared.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:57 pm

precita wrote:I don't get it, are some of you bothered you didn't get a generic happy ending where everyone is OK in the end? Its different than anything we had before.
Just because I don't like this ending (at all, btw) doesn't mean I desired a generic happy ending . I wanted a good ending (happy, sad, or bittersweet) that tied up all loose ends and left me satisfied. This was not it.
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Post by Faisal Shourov » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:58 pm

Shinomori wrote:
zamasu121 wrote:you know why? because the villain actually won this time. i was getting tired of those happy ending nonsense, so this ending is really refreshing.
Though technically, Frieza won as well. They just cheated with Whis' time technique, much like they cheated with Zeno. I can understand Beerus' comment to Goku in saying they need to stop relying on gods so much.
Well Frieza did win, if it was not for Whis all Z warriors would be dead. But unlike Frieza's arc Zamasu was much more successful, now Trunks can't ever go back to his home timeline and has to live with another Future Trunks
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Post by SaiyanZ » Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:24 pm

Face-Sky Zamasu is too bullshit for me to call the ending good :lol:
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Post by Sonicjamareiz » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:46 am

The ending reminded me of the ugly barnacle story. :cry:
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Post by Cipher » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:16 am

The ending of this arc is great because it's weird and bittersweet and those are places Dragon Ball rarely goes. But nothing felt out of place.

So, so on board with how this ended. Did not see it coming at all.

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Post by zamasu121 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:38 am

Cipher wrote:The ending of this arc is great because it's weird and bittersweet and those are places Dragon Ball rarely goes. But nothing felt out of place.

So, so on board with how this ended. Did not see it coming at all.
exactly. i don't know why people want those cliche happy endings. this arc actually had consequences and the ending has emotional weight to it.

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Post by Faisal Shourov » Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:42 am

Cipher wrote:The ending of this arc is great because it's weird and bittersweet and those are places Dragon Ball rarely goes. But nothing felt out of place.

So, so on board with how this ended. Did not see it coming at all.
This is probably one of the rarest arc where there was consequence. As it turned out, Dragon Balls can't fix Trunks world so all the kids that died are gone for good. This is one of the most significant arc in Dragon Ball in terms of actual casualty
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Post by IntoTheFire » Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:54 am

So, Future Trunk's timeline is gone for good? Did I get that right? Trunks and Mai just went to a similar timeline a little before everything was destroyed? I was confused when Whis mentioned he can take them into the past of their timeline.
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