General Fan Fiction Thread

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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Helios518 » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:19 pm

Doctor. wrote:Probably not the best thread to ask this, but whatever.

How strong would each character be, compared to the current strongest characters in Super, if they all realized their potential?
IMHO SSJB Gohan would be anywhere from few notches to few times stronger than current SSJB Goku, he's still not touching full power Beerus. While SSJB kids would probably be around Goku if not a few notches weaker.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:24 pm

Helios518 wrote:
Doctor. wrote:Probably not the best thread to ask this, but whatever.

How strong would each character be, compared to the current strongest characters in Super, if they all realized their potential?
IMHO SSJB Gohan would be anywhere from few notches to few times stronger than current SSJB Goku, he's still not touching full power Beerus. While SSJB kids would probably be around Goku if not a few notches weaker.
Gotenks would be arguable.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Alruneia » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:34 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Alruneia wrote:Do you mean how strong people would be if they trained instead of in canon where they don't?
Yeah, pretty much. How strong do they need to be until it stops being believable that they could reach such a realm of power?
Okay.
By EoZ, if Goku and Vegeta were equal to Beerus, a fully trained Blue Gohan would be equal to Whis, while Goten and Trunks would be slightly weaker (less experience because of age, but largely cancelled out by potential). Blue Gotenks could fight the Grand Attendant (Priest, whatever) for the five seconds the fusion would last. Pan would be... well, herself, because she already trains, and depending on whether you accept the Super Saiyan inheritance theory or not, Bulla would be either equal to her (if not) or several times stronger (if yes).
Piccolo, if training with the beforementioned Gohan, would benefit greatly from the change. I can imagine him reaching as much as Super Vegito (Buu arc) by EoZ.
I have no clue what would happen if Buu trained, but I bet it'd be amazing. Anything's possible there.
The humans still get the short end of the stick, I think. Krillin would probably have a power level in the low millions, though, and Tien with his Tri-Beam might be able to hold down base Super Buu. Yamcha is probably only first form Frieza level.

It's been stated that 17 and 18 are able to train. However, I can't imagine them climbing any higher than Semi-perfect Cell's level.
If Frieza continued his training, he'd remove the stamina issues his Golden form has, but probably wouldn't get all that much stronger.
If Cell decided to train in the 10-day gap before his games, Gohan would need SSJ3 to stand a chance. It stands to reason that he would have Frieza's potential.

Oh, the Super Saiyan inheritance theory is the idea that the stronger the parents are, the greater prodigy the child is. It was made up to explain why Gohan had a tail and trouble reaching Super Saiyan, while Goten and Trunks had no tails and learned Super Saiyan really early. Following it, Ultimate Gohan's daughter Pan and Blue Vegeta's daughter Bulla should have the most potential out of all partial saiyans, Bulla with more potential than Pan, since Vegeta learns Super Saiyan Blue before making Bulla, while Pan has already been made when Super Saiyan God is discovered.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:37 pm

So, giving Gohan, Goten, Trunk (both of them) and Piccolo God tier strength for that Black Arc remake: too much?

For Gohan, he'd become aware of Future Trunks' situation and want to help him out, for Piccolo I would use his poor performance in the Frost fight as an incentive to start training for real again. No idea what motivation to give the brats or even pursue anyone outside of Gohan and F. Trunks doing God training.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Helios518 » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:42 pm

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Helios518 wrote:
Doctor. wrote:Probably not the best thread to ask this, but whatever.

How strong would each character be, compared to the current strongest characters in Super, if they all realized their potential?
IMHO SSJB Gohan would be anywhere from few notches to few times stronger than current SSJB Goku, he's still not touching full power Beerus. While SSJB kids would probably be around Goku if not a few notches weaker.
Gotenks would be arguable.
Didn't think of him. He'll probably be in the league of SSJBKKx10 Goku, if i say so myself.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Doctor. » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:50 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:So, giving Gohan, Goten, Trunk (both of them) and Piccolo God tier strength for that Black Arc remake: too much?

For Gohan, he'd become aware of Future Trunks' situation and want to help him out, for Piccolo I would use his poor performance in the Frost fight as an incentive to start training for real again. No idea what motivation to give the brats or even pursue anyone outside of Gohan and F. Trunks doing God training.
I think giving Trunks and Goten God strength is too much, at least individually. Super Boo-Vegetto tier strength is good enough. Piccolo and Gohan are acceptable.

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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:25 pm

Doctor. wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:So, giving Gohan, Goten, Trunk (both of them) and Piccolo God tier strength for that Black Arc remake: too much?

For Gohan, he'd become aware of Future Trunks' situation and want to help him out, for Piccolo I would use his poor performance in the Frost fight as an incentive to start training for real again. No idea what motivation to give the brats or even pursue anyone outside of Gohan and F. Trunks doing God training.
I think giving Trunks and Goten God strength is too much, at least individually. Super Boo-Vegetto tier strength is good enough. Piccolo and Gohan are acceptable.
Just a couple more questions before I stop bugging you and the others on here with this, I promise :)

1. To make Future Android 16 a thing. Trunks, in my current version of the story, acts as an instructor to new fighters so he the planet isn't totally boned if he should die from combat or from something similar to the heart virus. A Future #16 would serve as his primary back up and his training partner so he can keep getting stronger.

2. I kind of want to start out with Black and Future Zamasu and just eventually get to the good guys later. I find these two the most interesting characters in the whole story and since I'm not gonna majorly alter the twist, it feels kind of pointless to pretend to have a mystery when everyone's gonna know it. On the other hand, it might be boring for people to read about the good guys speculating on Black & Zamasu's motivations if they spend a long time reading about them.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Doctor. » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:28 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:So, giving Gohan, Goten, Trunk (both of them) and Piccolo God tier strength for that Black Arc remake: too much?

For Gohan, he'd become aware of Future Trunks' situation and want to help him out, for Piccolo I would use his poor performance in the Frost fight as an incentive to start training for real again. No idea what motivation to give the brats or even pursue anyone outside of Gohan and F. Trunks doing God training.
I think giving Trunks and Goten God strength is too much, at least individually. Super Boo-Vegetto tier strength is good enough. Piccolo and Gohan are acceptable.
Just a couple more questions before I stop bugging you and the others on here with this, I promise :)

1. To make Future Android 16 a thing. Trunks, in my current version of the story, acts as an instructor to new fighters so he the planet isn't totally boned if he should die from combat or from something similar to the heart virus. A Future #16 would serve as his primary back up and his training partner so he can keep getting stronger.

2. I kind of want to start out with Black and Future Zamasu and just eventually get to the good guys later. I find these two the most interesting characters in the whole story and since I'm not gonna majorly alter the twist, it feels kind of pointless to pretend to have a mystery when everyone's gonna know it. On the other hand, it might be boring for people to read about the good guys speculating on Black & Zamasu's motivations if they spend a long time reading about them.
It's a good idea but you risk involving too many characters and not having enough screentime for every one of them. A big problem with DB is that since there's only one or two villains at a time, not everyone can get a chance to shine. As for #16, I think it'd be cool if even future Bulma couldn't remove his order to kill Goku and he uses it as incentive to kill Black.

I'd suggest a middle-ground, but I don't know how you'd go about it. You could reveal Black and Zamasu's connection from the start, but keep Black's identity a secret for a good part of the arc.

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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Doctor. » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:44 pm

I'm actually thinking of incorporating DB Fusion's Maxi Fusion into a fanfic. It's so absurd that I cannot help but love it :lol:

Only question though, of course, is how to make it work, not make it look cheap and how to make it believable that the character wouldn't defeat everyone.

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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:46 pm

Doctor. wrote:I'm actually thinking of incorporating DB Fusion's Maxi Fusion into a fanfic. It's so absurd that I cannot help but love it :lol:

Only question though, of course, is how to make it work, not make it look cheap and how to make it believable that the character wouldn't defeat everyone.
The only way I can see it working is if you Maxi Fusion the weaker characters together. Guys like Goten, Trunks, Piccolo, Tien and Krillin. That way you can introduce the concept, create a fairly powerful fighter but not one that breaks everything.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Kanassa » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:44 pm

A very early and rough draft of a scene I'm planning to do, between the F!Pilaf Gang and their new 'friend' F!Android 16.

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Mai shook her head at Pilaf’s watchful and fearful gaze, as well as her canine companion’s sparkling amazement as the Android began to screw the wrist of his metal hand back into place. If the android wanted them dead, he would do so in an instant, and antagonising the rather peaceful machine wouldn’t help them at all.

The ginger haired machine offered a few confused blinks, Shu was almost drooling. “You have reverted back to a puppy, I take it you find enjoyment from my ability?”
“YOU’RE SO COOL!” Was the small Dog’s screaming response, surprising the android even more. “You have rockets, laser beams and you can remove your hands! I used to have an action figure like you, except it had a rocket pun-… YOU CAN DO A ROCKET PUNCH!”

“Rocket Punch?”

“It would do this thing where it’s fist would fire out, like BLOOOM and then it would- POW” Pilaf could only groan at his henchmen (Who was on the verge of tears?), was Shu always this much of a dork? Pilaf reasoned that the dragon balls must of reverted the dog’s brain as well.

Android 16 smiled for a moment, though it was held down with the closest resemblance to regret he could muster “You are mistaken, I am an android. One that was built to harm others. That is nothing to be proud of” It was true, he was made to hunt down and kill the source of Gero’s obsessions, but he could never bring himself to harm someone so innocent. His very nature was a failure.

“No, you’re Android 16” The dog yet again smiled

Mai elbowed Pilaf in the side when he rolled his eyes at Shu’s statement, speaking up as well. “Yeah, that’s something to be proud of!” With that, she moved back over towards the front of the storage shed, taking a small case in her hands. “Anyway, we have work to do! Don’t want the ol- I mean, good Miss Brief’s to catch us slacking”
16 merely nodded with his smile now full, taking in the two’s kind words while taking slight note of the small imp’s discomfort, though immediately his eyes focused on the case in Mai’s hand. “Could you please put that back where you found it, that is mine”

“Huh?” The woman turned her gaze down to look at the case more thoroughly, there seemed to be a stack of old paper under the glass top, all marked with a stamp (A star with the words ‘Jingle Village’ between all it’s centre points) “What’s inside?”

“Letters” 16 held out his hands with a pleading shake of his fingers, as if he was being handed a sensitive bomb. Mai complied and delicately put the case on top of the Android’s fingers. “I have a friend in Jingle Village, he’s an Android too, and he doesn’t like violence either. I don’t get many chances to go out that far, but sometimes Pan flies over there to bring him letters” With a brief pause to carefully lay the case down in a clear spot, if he could Mai was sure the Android would be sweating. “I think you’d say that he’s my best friend… I ask that you don’t tell the Briefs that, I don’t want them to feel like they’ve failed after all they’ve done for me”
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Another reason I was saddened after 16's death, he never got to meet Eighter!
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Post by Sailor Haumea » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:08 pm

What makes you think 16 didn't post-Cell Games?
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Kanassa » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:12 pm

Sailor Haumea wrote:What makes you think 16 didn't post-Cell Games?
Because nobody revived him for... reasons?
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Sailor Haumea » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:19 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote:What makes you think 16 didn't post-Cell Games?
Because nobody revived him for... reasons?
Didn't they revive all of Cell's victims? Cell killed 16, hence he got revived.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Kanassa » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:23 pm

Sailor Haumea wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote:What makes you think 16 didn't post-Cell Games?
Because nobody revived him for... reasons?
Didn't they revive all of Cell's victims? Cell killed 16, hence he got revived.
Yeah, and for one reason or another Shenron is unable to revive machines.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Sailor Haumea » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:26 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote:
Kanassa wrote: Because nobody revived him for... reasons?
Didn't they revive all of Cell's victims? Cell killed 16, hence he got revived.
Yeah, and for one reason or another Shenron is unable to revive machines.
Arale and Eighter say hi. Buu killed them both.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:58 pm

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Kanassa wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote: Didn't they revive all of Cell's victims? Cell killed 16, hence he got revived.
Yeah, and for one reason or another Shenron is unable to revive machines.
Arale and Eighter say hi. Buu killed them both.
Ginyu frog also exists post-Boo, contradictions happen in Dragon Ball. 16's death was a major event that had just happened when they made the wish, it would have been brought up if he were revived.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:14 pm

Anyone got any cool abilities for Hit to share? So far, I've got him being able to make his opponents bones explode inside their bodies, striking at his opponents nervous system to make channeling ki impossible or to make it go berserk inside their bodies, causing painful contortions of the muscles and eventual death.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Helios518 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:26 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Anyone got any cool abilities for Hit to share? So far, I've got him being able to make his opponents bones explode inside their bodies, striking at his opponents nervous system to make channeling ki impossible or to make it go berserk inside their bodies, causing painful contortions of the muscles and eventual death.
Yo I don't think Goku has underestimated anyone harder than full power Hit, if Hit was holding that back.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Doctor. » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:41 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Anyone got any cool abilities for Hit to share? So far, I've got him being able to make his opponents bones explode inside their bodies, striking at his opponents nervous system to make channeling ki impossible or to make it go berserk inside their bodies, causing painful contortions of the muscles and eventual death.
With his power, he'd easily be able to blind people or cause brain damage if he ever wanted to play dirty.

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