Bring back raditz

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Re: Bring back raditz

Post by Fishman » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:52 pm

sangofe wrote:Please, don't. After bringing Freeza back, I don't want them to bring back any characters! I want new stuff like the Champa Arc and the Trunks arcs!
You mean the arc where they brought back Trunks and magically inflated his power to Super Saiyan Blue levels completely out of nowhere? That was definitely new stuff.
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Re: Bring back raditz

Post by Majin Jator » Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:30 pm

kinisking wrote:I don't really understand why people want him back. If he was the one to live instead of Vegeta he would probably have had the exact same character arc. He's not really that unique compared to Vegeta. Bring back Nappa! :D
I hate to agree, but I don't see how Raditz could bring anything meaningful to the story, no matter how cool he looks.
Nappa, on the other hand (as much as I loathe him in Z) brings something different to the table. Even reformed, he would always be the jerk ready to pick a fight, pushing everyone to their limits. Like Guy Gardner in the JL, or Heatwave in Legends of Tomorrow.

Now, a story in were both of them get resurrected -maintaining their original power levels- and have to comply with the main cast and lead a regular life (getting a job, dating women...) has great potential for "funny filler".

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Re: Bring back raditz

Post by kinisking » Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:36 pm

Majin Jator wrote:
kinisking wrote:I don't really understand why people want him back. If he was the one to live instead of Vegeta he would probably have had the exact same character arc. He's not really that unique compared to Vegeta. Bring back Nappa! :D
I hate to agree, but I don't see how Raditz could bring anything meaningful to the story, no matter how cool he looks.
Nappa, on the other hand (as much as I loathe him in Z) brings something different to the table. Even reformed, he would always be the jerk ready to pick a fight, pushing everyone to their limits. Like Guy Gardner in the JL, or Heatwave in Legends of Tomorrow.

Now, a story in were both of them get resurrected -maintaining their original power levels- and have to comply with the main cast and lead a regular life (getting a job, dating women...) has great potential for "funny filler".
Haha that funny filler idea is great.

Nappa also has a pretty distinct look compared to Raditz. We don't have any good guy with his body type.
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Re: Bring back raditz

Post by Grimlock » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:23 pm

sangofe wrote:I don't want them to bring back any characters! I want new stuff like the Champa Arc and the Trunks arcs!
Wait, so is Trunks a new character/stuff? I'm pretty sure I have seen him before. :eh:

Anyway, if Freeza and Future Trunks got their chance to shine once again, so can other ones too, and ones that truly need to come back.

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Re: Bring back raditz

Post by sangofe » Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:28 am

Fishman wrote:
sangofe wrote:Please, don't. After bringing Freeza back, I don't want them to bring back any characters! I want new stuff like the Champa Arc and the Trunks arcs!
You mean the arc where they brought back Trunks and magically inflated his power to Super Saiyan Blue levels completely out of nowhere? That was definitely new stuff.
The whole premise and idea and feel of the Trunks arc is completely different than what's been before. And that was another form than Blue, I think. But that's not what's being discussed here.
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sangofe wrote:I don't want them to bring back any characters! I want new stuff like the Champa Arc and the Trunks arcs!
Wait, so is Trunks a new character/stuff? I'm pretty sure I have seen him before. :eh:

Anyway, if Freeza and Future Trunks got their chance to shine once again, so can other ones too, and ones that truly need to come back.

No, he's not a new character but you know very well what I meant. And honestly, nothing felt "old" about that arc. I want the focus to be 110% on new characters from now on. Make them go to Planet Sadla! Make them encounter new enemies! Whatever, but make it new!

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Re: Bring back raditz

Post by TekTheNinja » Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:39 am

kinisking wrote:
Majin Jator wrote:
kinisking wrote:I don't really understand why people want him back. If he was the one to live instead of Vegeta he would probably have had the exact same character arc. He's not really that unique compared to Vegeta. Bring back Nappa! :D
I hate to agree, but I don't see how Raditz could bring anything meaningful to the story, no matter how cool he looks.
Nappa, on the other hand (as much as I loathe him in Z) brings something different to the table. Even reformed, he would always be the jerk ready to pick a fight, pushing everyone to their limits. Like Guy Gardner in the JL, or Heatwave in Legends of Tomorrow.

Now, a story in were both of them get resurrected -maintaining their original power levels- and have to comply with the main cast and lead a regular life (getting a job, dating women...) has great potential for "funny filler".
Haha that funny filler idea is great.

Nappa also has a pretty distinct look compared to Raditz. We don't have any good guy with his body type.
I want Trunks to have an uncle Nappa. That'd be pretty fantastic. I'd kinda want him to be like Kazuma Kuwabara from Yu Yu Hakusho personality-wise.

I wouldn't mind Raditz either though. Or Bardock, or Gine. I pretty much just think it would be cool to have Goku interact with his family.

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Re: Bring back raditz

Post by Ki Breaker » Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:47 am

TekTheNinja wrote:
kinisking wrote:
Majin Jator wrote:
I hate to agree, but I don't see how Raditz could bring anything meaningful to the story, no matter how cool he looks.
Nappa, on the other hand (as much as I loathe him in Z) brings something different to the table. Even reformed, he would always be the jerk ready to pick a fight, pushing everyone to their limits. Like Guy Gardner in the JL, or Heatwave in Legends of Tomorrow.

Now, a story in were both of them get resurrected -maintaining their original power levels- and have to comply with the main cast and lead a regular life (getting a job, dating women...) has great potential for "funny filler".
Haha that funny filler idea is great.

Nappa also has a pretty distinct look compared to Raditz. We don't have any good guy with his body type.
I want Trunks to have an uncle Nappa. That'd be pretty fantastic. I'd kinda want him to be like Kazuma Kuwabara from Yu Yu Hakusho personality-wise.

I wouldn't mind Raditz either though. Or Bardock, or Gine. I pretty much just think it would be cool to have Goku interact with his family.
This idea seems great, nappa brought back, his personality will bring many things to the table..
A guy ready to pick a fight and Saiyan pride filled in him.. vegeta used to fill that role but...

Vegeta has pretty much given up on that role now , he seems to have calmed down so much, he dosent even feel himself anymore..
Call it character development, but I find Toyotaros depiction of Vegeta better..
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Re: Bring back raditz

Post by TekTheNinja » Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:55 am

Ki Breaker wrote:Call it character development, but I find Toyotaros depiction of Vegeta better..
I dunno. In the manga Vegeta often just comes off as an annoying asshat, which is incredibly unfitting of current Vegeta.

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Re: Bring back raditz

Post by Ki Breaker » Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:06 am

TekTheNinja wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:Call it character development, but I find Toyotaros depiction of Vegeta better..
I dunno. In the manga Vegeta often just comes off as an annoying asshat, which is incredibly unfitting of current Vegeta.
I find a non arrogant vegeta unfit..That is the Vegeta personalty which made him loveable to many..
Manga nails it.. Vegeta having character development is fine, but he should continue to be an asshole with anyone who is not his family or friend..
That's the correct Vegeta to me, it is obviously debatable as everyone likes a character differently
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Re: Bring back raditz

Post by kinisking » Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:55 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
TekTheNinja wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:Call it character development, but I find Toyotaros depiction of Vegeta better..
I dunno. In the manga Vegeta often just comes off as an annoying asshat, which is incredibly unfitting of current Vegeta.
I find a non arrogant vegeta unfit..That is the Vegeta personalty which made him loveable to many..
Manga nails it.. Vegeta having character development is fine, but he should continue to be an asshole with anyone who is not his family or friend..
That's the correct Vegeta to me, it is obviously debatable as everyone likes a character differently
Lol I need to re read the manga apparently. I thought Vegeta was nicer in the manga? He still has his douchebag moments in the anime. He still talks trash to Kakarot and even yelled at FT for running away.
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Re: Bring back raditz

Post by Xeztin » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:51 pm

The only time I could see one bringing back Raditz is if Nappa came back with him but turning them SSJ God/Blue or any other God scale power up wouldn't make sense to me. I don't think Toei would want to tackle any kind of Raditz Super Saiyan form because of his already long hair. If they came back, it'd just be to make amends with the cast and probably be "Stick arounds" or side viewers.

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