I don't understand the hype for Gohan again

[HeroR]

It's not Toei's fault at all, it's the fans' fault as usual. All Toei did was give Gohan the development that Toriyama doesn't bother to give him, Gohan is not going to neglect his training anymore. However, as the beginning of the Champa arc showed, he's never going to put his training ahead of his family and job. Fans have this weird expectation that Gohan will dedicate his full time to training and catch up to Goku and Vegeta, that's never going to happen and it's just fans clinging to old glory.

Really, what Gohan is doing now is the equivalent of a normal person who stood on his couch every day after work eating Cheetos now going for a jog every day. People expected him to turn into a training junkie like Goku and Vegeta for some reason, so of course there was a huge outrage when Piccolo said in the Black arc that Gohan isn't a fighter anymore.

I agree with this. I am thankful that the retelling had more dire consequences for Gohan after slacking off again because, after the Buu Saga, he should know better. Hell, after Beerus, he should have known better.

I am not saying that Gohan needs to be a hardcore warrior and train like his father, I'm against it in fact. I am saying that Gohan at the very least should have maintained his power, which he seems to be doing, thankfully. After all Gohan have seen, he should know better than anyone how important it is to keep training just in case the worse happens.

But at least Piccolo makes people respect him whereas Gohan is more of a joke than Yamcha.

Them polls are probably who is your most favourite character not top 5 or 10. I think Gohan would not be 3rd if you do it like that. I think Piccolo is more liked overall in the fanbase. The small sample in the favourite character thread suggests this.

Only his fans have respect for Piccolo, not the people in-universe, like Bulma telling him and Krillin to fill pot holes, or him reduced to making videos on Bulma's phone to be helpful.

Cell is considered a 'fan favorite', yet he ranks below all the villain in polls in Japan. So, trying to judged popularity base on fan threads doesn't really work. And Gohan being considered many people's favorite shows that he is popular, especially since the last official poll showed, he outranked Piccolo. Heck, Trunks beat Piccolo and he was just there for a short time.

[HeroR]

Double post

[SsjCookie]

Gohan became 'in a way' the insult of Super in my opinion.
Someone who "accordingly to some people" is the strongest character of the show but doesn't do anything to live up to it.
Even though he doesn't love to fight with the same passion his father does, he should at least TRY to keep up, and start contributing in whatever way to the safety of his world again.
He is a scholar, but what exactly is he researching?
It better be important because he's neglecting his friends for it.

He could have made a difference with Helping Trunks save his timeline but he did absolutely nothing.
Heck he didn't even ASK why Trunks was back.
It's thanks to Future Trunks that he even HAS a family in the first place, so yeah he he has been a real downer in Super, as a person and as a friend.

If he doesn't wake the hell up in the next arc he probably never will.

[Ki Breaker]

Being the son of the main character means nothing, if that is your reason then what about Goten. That reason is therefore invalid to me.

I used a particularity bad example to emphasise that us saying whatever we like dosent change the fact he is a very respected character in the franchise, and people want him to do something..

I am sure you have heard many reasons as to why people like Gohan till today, I will not go on repeating those now..

All I see from his fanbase is that becuase he beat Cell, he is a special character who must be the best all the time even though most of them fans did not even like him until he had his fight with cell.

The cell arc is my least favorite arc in toriyamas entire work..
And judging from what i am doing right now qualifies me as Gohan's 'fan'..
There you have it, there is a bigger part of the fanbase than you saw.. shocker right..

I like the character as a whole, I cannot care less if he beat cell, I believe he didn't technically do it in the first place, everyone beat him together, and Goku died for this.. but that's just my way of seeing things, no way is that the ultimate statement..

As long as toie keeps teasing with Gohan saying he will train again, him feeling regret for not being asked to help trunks, him been given his mystic hair back.. yes people are gonna go extra imaginative with this..
They can't help it, it's human nature..
And for some reason, a big chunk of Gohan fans are like this..

[namekiansaiyan]

As long as toie keeps teasing with Gohan saying he will train again, him feeling regret for not being asked to help trunks, him been given his mystic hair back.. yes people are gonna go extra imaginative with this..
They can't help it, it's human nature..
And for some reason, a big chunk of Gohan fans are like this..

That was not teasing in episode 67 he had no bruises on him and the wrong clothes on. Piccolo also had his weights on so more than likely they were not hard training like episode 30. That scene was just set up to be an 'emotional' momemt for Trunks.

Another thing which makes no sense is what would mystic Gohan do when there is SSB Goku and Vegeta as he is not someone like Piccolo or Buu.

[buutenks]

Hmm, i never understood why Gohan is so popular. I mean from my point of view he sucks big time. Reason, he whines way to much. Cell games, oh nooo i dont wanna hurt stuff, boo hoo hoo. Buu saga, oh noo i suck, boo hoo hoo. And then gets a powerup and still manages to suck lol.

This is why i stopped liking Ichigo after SS arc, guy whines way to much.

Why i prefer characters like Vegeta, Goku or heck even Piccolo or Krillin. Sure Piccolo isnt as strong as Goku or Vegeta anymore, but he isnt a wimp and neither is krillin a wimp, he kicks bad guys butt for a living now hehe.

But, if Toriyama really wanted, Gohan can become more powerful in the Omniverse tourney arc. Since the u7 team needs 5 members.

[Lord Beerus]

It's a classic of fans needlessly setting their expectations higher than they should be. Anytime Gohan makes an appearances, they automatically jump on it as a case of "He's training and he's gonna make a comeback". or "Gohan's getting ready for the next arc." To be fair though. Toriyama and Toei share a good portion portion of the blame for this. They have a bad habit of throwing in the occasional red herring that Gohan is being set up for something of significance only to no follow through on it. The more notorious case being that Gohan telling Piccolo he want him to train him again after the events of the Resurrection F arc so that he can be stron enough to protect his family. Hell, then even showing a brief instance of him training with Piccolo. But then the blame is shifted right back to the fanbase for not really understanding that Gohan has already made it clear that he prioritises providing for his family and if it came to fighting or being a proper father and husband, he would choose the latter.

So, really, both parties are to blame for this whole situation. Toriyama and Toei for dangling the carrot of Gohan getting involved in the next arc and for some of the fans for not taking a step back to evaluate the character as a whole.

[ChaosLordBrandon]

All gohan did was say goodbye to trunks. there is nothing that suggest that gohan is training.

[Ki Breaker]

As long as toie keeps teasing with Gohan saying he will train again, him feeling regret for not being asked to help trunks, him been given his mystic hair back.. yes people are gonna go extra imaginative with this..
They can't help it, it's human nature..
And for some reason, a big chunk of Gohan fans are like this..

That was not teasing in episode 67 he had no bruises on him and the wrong clothes on. Piccolo also had his weights on so more than likely they were not hard training like episode 30. That scene was just set up to be an 'emotional' momemt for Trunks.

Another thing which makes no sense is what would mystic Gohan do when there is SSB Goku and Vegeta as he is not someone like Piccolo or Buu.

I will give you the benefit of doubt and say he was not training, but, undeniably the teases are there about him in super..
And Gohan had his mystic look on, whether that is from training right now or from the training he did after freeza dosent really matter.. we were shown he is mystic again, that was enough of a tease..
If they wanted proper emotional scene with future Gohan, they would have given him his rof hair, it's the same as future Gohan, that would have had more effect..
No need to go the extra mile to give him a determined mystic look, but they did it anyway..

You are right about this, mystic gohan is of no use right now, far outclassed by others..
But so was super Saiyan 2 trunks..
Just the very idea of Gohan training again and achieving his power back is enough to push people to make ridiculous theories..
But the fact remains, if future trunks can have this much growth so can Gohan..

They just need the opportunity for it..

I understand this, so I don't go around saying Gohan is coming back everywhere, sure I want him to come back and it's great thinking how that could happen, but I am not going to drop the show if that dosen't happen, it dosen't define the enjoyment factor..
But you have to understand , a big portion of the fanbase dosent understand this and for them, it's betrayal to their favorite character..
Hence all the outbursts from them happen

[Soppa Saia People]

I sort of understand it, in that he's probably the most prominent fighting character to be moved into a primarily non-action role, and the series has been fairly inconsistent in portraying his desire to either close the gap between himself and Goku/Vegeta or focus completely on other interests. In addition, he hasn't been all that interesting to make up for the decreased activity (which is a fucking shame with how fun he and Videl are in the Boo arc).

Personally, I'm completely down for the series portraying him as Goku's adult son who has moved onto other interests and who his father doesn't quite understand (and vice versa), despite caring about one another and Gohan still being able to get into some super-powered martial arts action when the time calls for it. But they need to actually do a little more with that.

The constant whining about his different role and searching for hints on a return to fighting full-time sure are irritating though. Especially when that kind of discussion overrides much more obvious and powerful readings of scenes like the Gohan/Trunks exchange at the end of episode 67. That was all about the impact Trunks has had in positively affecting the lives of some version of the people close to him, but that interpretation was drowned out by a sea of "Is Gohan TRAINING AGAIN?!! IS TOEI TRYING TO TELL US SOMETHING?!!"

PAN IS SICK NEXT EPISODE IS GOHAN GOING TO COME BACK??!

THERE WAS A WEIRD BUG IN MY KITCHEN WHAT IMPLICATIONS COULD THIS HAVE FOR GOHAN?!?!?!?!?!

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This so much. I recently reread the Boo saga, and Gohan is great there, he's a fun, active character, which is one of my bigger complaints with Super. Gohan doesn't have to fight, just have him do something.

[Xeztin]

The only way Gohan is going to fight again is if Vegeta and Goku are absent, you have to force him to fight. Kill off Goku and Vegeta and throw Gohan in the RoSAT and you have your bad ass Gohan again. Someones got to protect the Earth if they die, Trunks and Goten are too young and Piccolo and the cast probably couldn't even take Namek saga Freeza one on one. Boo is the only real choice other than Gohan and he just spends his days eating.

[Ki Breaker]

Piccolo and the cast probably couldn't even take Namek saga Freeza one on one

Piccolo is at least perfect cell level by now.. there is no way he will lose to namek freeza

[Beyond]

The only way Gohan is going to fight again is if Vegeta and Goku are absent, you have to force him to fight. Kill off Goku and Vegeta and throw Gohan in the RoSAT and you have your bad ass Gohan again. Someones got to protect the Earth if they die, Trunks and Goten are too young and Piccolo and the cast probably couldn't even take Namek saga Freeza one on one. Boo is the only real choice other than Gohan and he just spends his days eating.

That hurt me a little bit. Frost is stronger than namek frieza just so you know. While I do agree Piccolo strength gets overrated, let's not go in the opposite direction either. Realistically. he is probably stronger than semi-perfect cell and a little weaker than initial perfect cell. Gohan in his base in ROF is probably a little stronger than piccolo and Gohan's SSJ in ROF is stronger than his SS2 in the buu arc but weaker than mystic(I guess?).

[julianix]

Gohan coming back will damage the series. I think the fanbase would be way more excited with a namekian god or earthling god. Something that will the change the show in a drastic way.

Gohan fans are just a loud minority who just need to stop.

No one cares about your little one hit wonder. Out of all the characters in the series he is the character that deserves a power up the least.

What planet do you live in where you think Gohan fans are a minority?

[Doctor.]

The only way Gohan is going to fight again is if Vegeta and Goku are absent, you have to force him to fight. Kill off Goku and Vegeta and throw Gohan in the RoSAT and you have your bad ass Gohan again. Someones got to protect the Earth if they die, Trunks and Goten are too young and Piccolo and the cast probably couldn't even take Namek saga Freeza one on one. Boo is the only real choice other than Gohan and he just spends his days eating.

What? Piccolo was on-par with #17 and was stronger than Imperfect Cell during his initial appearance. He's much stronger than Freeza.

[Xeztin]

The only way Gohan is going to fight again is if Vegeta and Goku are absent, you have to force him to fight. Kill off Goku and Vegeta and throw Gohan in the RoSAT and you have your bad ass Gohan again. Someones got to protect the Earth if they die, Trunks and Goten are too young and Piccolo and the cast probably couldn't even take Namek saga Freeza one on one. Boo is the only real choice other than Gohan and he just spends his days eating.

That hurt me a little bit. Frost is stronger than namek frieza just so you know. While I do agree Piccolo strength gets overrated, let's not go in the opposite direction either. Realistically. he is probably stronger than semi-perfect cell and a little weaker than initial perfect cell. Gohan in his base in ROF is probably a little stronger than piccolo and Gohan's SSJ in ROF is stronger than his SS2 in the buu arc but weaker than mystic(I guess?).

I Agree, I did underexaggerate Piccolo's strength but it's only to extend the point that Gohan's the only one with the "Potential" I should say. I really like Piccolo a lot, he should be able to hold his own against Goku and Vegeta. He doesn't need God Ki give him some kinda Namek power up. Ten and Kuririn too! I wished Dragon Ball didn't forget its cast and done something like One Piece. The longer we go without Oob and Pan the more no one else matters except for Goku and Vegeta

[namekiansaiyan]

Gohan coming back will damage the series. I think the fanbase would be way more excited with a namekian god or earthling god. Something that will the change the show in a drastic way.

Gohan fans are just a loud minority who just need to stop.

No one cares about your little one hit wonder. Out of all the characters in the series he is the character that deserves a power up the least.

What planet do you live in where you think Gohan fans are a minority?

The planet which says that Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo and others are liked by pratically anyone while Gohan is not but the ones that do are really loud.

The only way Gohan is going to fight again is if Vegeta and Goku are absent, you have to force him to fight. Kill off Goku and Vegeta and throw Gohan in the RoSAT and you have your bad ass Gohan again. Someones got to protect the Earth if they die, Trunks and Goten are too young and Piccolo and the cast probably couldn't even take Namek saga Freeza one on one. Boo is the only real choice other than Gohan and he just spends his days eating.

That hurt me a little bit. Frost is stronger than namek frieza just so you know. While I do agree Piccolo strength gets overrated, let's not go in the opposite direction either. Realistically. he is probably stronger than semi-perfect cell and a little weaker than initial perfect cell. Gohan in his base in ROF is probably a little stronger than piccolo and Gohan's SSJ in ROF is stronger than his SS2 in the buu arc but weaker than mystic(I guess?).

I Agree, I did underexaggerate Piccolo's strength but it's only to extend the point that Gohan's the only one with the "Potential" I should say. I really like Piccolo a lot, he should be able to hold his own against Goku and Vegeta. He doesn't need God Ki give him some kinda Namek power up. Ten and Kuririn too! I wished Dragon Ball didn't forget its cast and done something like One Piece. The longer we go without Oob and Pan the more no one else matters except for Goku and Vegeta

To me it should always have been Goku Vegeta and Piccolo being the maim fighters with the rest playing a decent role.

I don't care if Gohan has some 'potential' because if Super Saiyan god can come out of nowhere then any character can get some sort of new power up that never existed before.

Finally as a Piccolo fan I am still very confident that he will participate in many fights in the 12 universe tournament.

[Kagari]

Gohan coming back will damage the series. I think the fanbase would be way more excited with a namekian god or earthling god. Something that will the change the show in a drastic way.

Gohan fans are just a loud minority who just need to stop.

No one cares about your little one hit wonder. Out of all the characters in the series he is the character that deserves a power up the least.

What planet do you live in where you think Gohan fans are a minority?

The planet which says that Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo and others are liked by pratically anyone while Gohan is not but the ones that do are really loud.

That hurt me a little bit. Frost is stronger than namek frieza just so you know. While I do agree Piccolo strength gets overrated, let's not go in the opposite direction either. Realistically. he is probably stronger than semi-perfect cell and a little weaker than initial perfect cell. Gohan in his base in ROF is probably a little stronger than piccolo and Gohan's SSJ in ROF is stronger than his SS2 in the buu arc but weaker than mystic(I guess?).

I Agree, I did underexaggerate Piccolo's strength but it's only to extend the point that Gohan's the only one with the "Potential" I should say. I really like Piccolo a lot, he should be able to hold his own against Goku and Vegeta. He doesn't need God Ki give him some kinda Namek power up. Ten and Kuririn too! I wished Dragon Ball didn't forget its cast and done something like One Piece. The longer we go without Oob and Pan the more no one else matters except for Goku and Vegeta

To me it should always have been Goku Vegeta and Piccolo being the maim fighters with the rest playing a decent role.

I don't care if Gohan has some 'potential' because if Super Saiyan god can come out of nowhere then any character can get some sort of new power up that never existed before.

Finally as a Piccolo fan I am still very confident that he will participate in many fights in the 12 universe tournament.

Gohan is popular, like it or not. You only have to look to video games and merchandise along with previous polls to see this. Piccolo is popular too, and I know you like him but you seem to put down Gohan fans every chance you get. It's tiring.

[namekiansaiyan]

Gohan is popular, like it or not. You only have to look to video games and merchandise along with previous polls to see this. Piccolo is popular too, and I know you like him but you seem to put down Gohan fans every chance you get. It's tiring.

Gohan merchandise is definitely way down where In places where I know to get such stuff.

Gohan's popularity must be dropping week by week. Thats is what it seems like anyway.

You might think its tiring but what I am saying is the reason I think Toriyama does not use him while many Gohan fans are in there own dreams most of the time.

[omaro34]

Gohan is popular, like it or not. You only have to look to video games and merchandise along with previous polls to see this. Piccolo is popular too, and I know you like him but you seem to put down Gohan fans every chance you get. It's tiring.

Gohan merchandise is definitely way down where In places where I know to get such stuff.

Gohan's popularity must be dropping week by week. Thats is what it seems like anyway.

You might think its tiring but what I am saying is the reason I think Toriyama does not use him while many Gohan fans are in there own dreams most of the time.

Please stop the blasphemy. I'm a major Piccolo fan as well but don't bash other characters.

As much as I hate to say it, our guy Piccolo has been irrelevant. Stop saying you are very confident he will dominate in the Omniverse tournament, because it will end in disappointment. Haven't you learned from his fight against Frost? I remember how pissed off you were here as well as I.

Piccolo is my favorite, and he always will, but don't bash others when they can fire it right back at us.