Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:58 pm

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Sodhi wrote:Good that they outsourced this episode. Hopefully they use the staff wisely.
I was just about to make that comment. The fact this episode was outsourced gives the main staff more time to get their shit together. I'm hoping the rest of the filler episodes were outsourced to other studios, but that's highly unlikely.
Episode 60 was outsourced to both Wanpack and MK Seoul, the latter wasn't on this episode and I wouldn't be surprised if one of the upcoming episodes has them doing a bunch of work, probably 69 or 71 (I'm betting 70 will be a solo Yashima episode).

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:06 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
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Sodhi wrote:Good that they outsourced this episode. Hopefully they use the staff wisely.
I was just about to make that comment. The fact this episode was outsourced gives the main staff more time to get their shit together. I'm hoping the rest of the filler episodes were outsourced to other studios, but that's highly unlikely.
Episode 60 was outsourced to both Wanpack and MK Seoul, the latter wasn't on this episode and I wouldn't be surprised if one of the upcoming episodes has them doing a bunch of work, probably 69 or 71 (I'm betting 70 will be a solo Yashima episode).
A solo job from Yashima would also be good option.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by Anime Kitten » Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:06 pm

This episode looked wonderful. The detail on the characters was very nice as well. Unfortunately, Beerus' face was off in the less detailed shots, but I think they made up for that with the cut of him shattering the crystal.

NEP looks good, too. Seems like there will be a greater amount of animation, so we'll have to hope for the best.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:07 pm

So they've reused the same summoning animation for Shen Long in every episode he's in, that's pretty smart.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by JazzMazz » Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:57 pm

#68

A really polished episode, not much movement but the art throughout was solid, mostly in part to Tsuji, her corrections I felt were all over the episode.

Not much in the way of actual animation though, there were some okay character acting moments but for the most part the episode really didn't move, nor did it really need to. Also, I believe they re-used the Shenron summoning.

An okay episode in all, it wasn't anything flashy but was polished enough not to be anything unwatchable (like the first half of last episode).

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:54 am

I wonder if this
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is Nashizawa. The eyebrow curve, the shape of the upper lip and the way the nose meets the lip reminds me of this shot of Tullece from Xenoverse 2
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by Ajay » Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:55 am

Well, JulieYBM just pointed out some depressing news.

If the last time this happened was any indication, we may well be losing another series director. As of this week, Morio Hatano was credited as the second series director with Kohei Hatano as the first.

If you don't remember what happened last time, Morio Hatano popped up next to Kimitoshi Chioka for a while before Chioka left the series. Not the greatest of signs.

Are we really going to go through yet another series director?


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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:00 am

Ajay wrote:Well, JulieYBM just pointed out some depressing news.

If the last time this happened was any indication, we may well be losing another series director. As of this week, Morio Hatano was credited as the second series director with Kohei Hatano as the first.

If you don't remember what happened last time, Morio Hatano popped up next to Kimitoshi Chioka for a while before Chioka left the series. Not the greatest of signs.

Are we really going to go through yet another series director?
Oh no... I hope Morio Hatano isn't leaving, I mean we finally got an episode directed by him.
Interestingly Kohei Hatano has been an episode director and storyboarder since the first arc. I really hope this is just them doubling up on series directors to help things out. If it is a replacement that's worrying, not only because we'd be losing another series director, but also because Kohei has never lead a series before.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by Sodhi » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:07 am

What even is going on behind the scenes is beyond me at this point. I thought him appearing in #66 was a good sign :(. I hope he does not leave, it would be a big loss.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by nite_jay » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:16 am

Could someone tell me exactly what a series director does? Do they handle things like who works on what episode or things like the overall look of the series?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by Sodhi » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:31 am

Series Director is the one who oversees the whole project, steering it towards completion by coordinating the various main staff, and making important creative decisions about the project as a whole.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:33 am

nite_jay wrote:Could someone tell me exactly what a series director does? Do they handle things like who works on what episode or things like the overall look of the series?
They define the overall feel of a series, oversee all aspects of the production (especially the storyboards) and are in general the top creative authority. A series director's influence changes based on that series director. Some series directors really push themselves and their staff to achieve a vision (Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso or anything from modern Kyouto Animation or even Toei Animation's Kyousougiga) while others just keep the cogs running (Kureta Kouhei's tenture as series director for Saint Seiya Omega Episodes #78-98).
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by Saikyo no Senshi » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:39 am

My expectations are even lower now. Super is a mess. First Chioka, now Hatano two good directors fucked up so bad. Hatano Kohei is a weak director and has yet to do anything that has been impressive.

As for the episode, it was okay. Nothing much to talk about.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by nite_jay » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:40 am

So I guess based off of this guy's reputation we shouldn't expect too much improvement if he takes over? At this point I really think Super might as well take a few month hiatus. If 2 veterans couldn't handle a beast like Super I doubt a newbie could.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:44 am

Oh, he'll handle it. But to compensate for his lackluster talent, compared with whatever chaos caused 2 directors to step down, we'll see a much lower quality of product. That is, assuming that this guy really is stepping down, and it isn't just a typo or a co-director situation.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:47 am

Seriously, don't get so negative when we don't know for sure if Morio is leaving or not. They could be doubling up to help smooth things out, it could be an error, or Kohei could be series director for this filler (assuming the Hit thing is more than a few episodes) while Morio is focused on the next arc. Again, it's worrying based on what happened last time, but a sample size of one isn't exactly the best thing to base your conclusions on.
Also what's with the hate for Kohei? He storyboarded and directed 38 and 56 and directed 47. I'd say his track record on Super is okay.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:52 am

The other day Twitter used @Deem939 was posting excerpts from an interview with various Saint Seiya Staff. This part from an interview with Producer Wakabayashi Gou on why he asked Hatano Morio to be series director of Saint Seiya Omega is particularly morbid in light of today's news.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:57 am

Seriously, we don't know if Morio is leaving or not, stop acting like the man announced his resignation. We need to wait and see what happens.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by Saikyo no Senshi » Sun Nov 27, 2016 2:01 am

JulieYBM wrote:The other day Twitter used @Deem939 was posting excerpts from an interview with various Saint Seiya Staff. This part from an interview with Producer Wakabayashi Gou on why he asked Hatano Morio to be series director of Saint Seiya Omega is particularly morbid in light of today's news.
Wow. I never knew Hatano was a Yama'uchi Shigeyasu fan.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 67

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sun Nov 27, 2016 2:02 am

ArchedThunder wrote:Seriously, we don't know if Morio is leaving or not, stop acting like the man announced his resignation. We need to wait and see what happens.
This happening is suspect to say the least. Sure it could be nothing, but it could also be the indicator of a major decline in the future (ha) of Dragon Ball.
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