Goku needing the suit for the Inner Core makes sense

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Goku needing the suit for the Inner Core makes sense

Post by ChiefWamsutta » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:19 pm

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So in Ep. 68, Bulma says, "Bring me this material from the earth's core. Then you can have your wish."

Goku says, "Huh? From the earth's core? Won't I die if I go here?"

Bulma replies, "My company's special suit can take it, so you'll be fine."

There's no mention of whether or not it was about heat or oxygen. We should all just assume Goku was referring to no oxygen. We have enough inconsistencies to deal with. All done.

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I didn't mind Goku needing the suit to be in the Earth's inner core. What else have we seen him touch that was remotely this hot?


The temperature of the Earth's inner core is 10,800 °F (6,000 °C). This was during DBS Ep 68.

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http://www.livescience.com/29054-earth-core-hotter.html


The temperature from re-entering the Earth's atmosphere is 3,000 °F (1,650 °C ). This was during DBS BoG.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shu ... ion_system
http://www.centennialofflight.net/essay ... Tech41.htm


The temperature of touching a planet's lava is 1,292 to 2,192 °F (700 to 1,200 °C). This is during DBZ Namek Saga.
The temperature of lava on Namek is approximated to the temperature of lava on Earth.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lava
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 7301002578
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Re: Goku needing the suit for the Inner Core makes sense

Post by The Monkey King » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:34 pm

Come to think of it how did Goku even get to the core?
Did he dig there lol? :think:

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Re: Goku needing the suit for the Inner Core makes sense

Post by Boo Machine » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:38 pm

Goku didn't wear the suit to protect him from the core. He wore the suit to protect the core from him.


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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:55 pm

The Monkey King wrote:Come to think of it how did Goku even get to the core?
Did he dig there lol? :think:
I'd think he'd IT straight to the core. I mean, he can do that, right?

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Post by dbs fanboy » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:14 pm

My issue is that Goku should be able to survive a planetary explosion so he should be able to survive by using his ki as a shield.

He would probably die because there's no oxygen there.
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Post by Bullza » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:34 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
The Monkey King wrote:Come to think of it how did Goku even get to the core?
Did he dig there lol? :think:
I'd think he'd IT straight to the core. I mean, he can do that, right?
No he shouldn't be able to. He can only use his IT to teleport to individuals and not random places. There was nobody in the core so he'd have to dig through I guess.

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Re: Goku needing the suit for the Inner Core makes sense

Post by SaiyanGod117 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:48 pm

Its obvious an inconsistency Goku tanked rock thrusters to the face as a kid, reentry level while unconscious, and continuous electrocution. So this is either an inconsistency or he needed the suit because there was to little to no oxygen.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:17 pm

ChiefWamsutta wrote: What else have we seen him touch that was remotely this hot?
Nuova Shenron. He was hotter (heh heh) than all those things you mentioned.

Goku also got struck by bolts of lightning as a child, IIRC, which I believe can be hotter than the surface of the sun.
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Post by kinisking » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:58 pm

SaiyanGod117 wrote:Its obvious an inconsistency Goku tanked rock thrusters to the face as a kid, reentry level while unconscious, and continuous electrocution. So this is either an inconsistency or he needed the suit because there was to little to no oxygen.
Read the Op? Those are less hot than the core
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Post by nite_jay » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:11 pm

Surprised people are taking a gag episode's logic even remotely seriously.

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Post by SaiyanGod117 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:28 pm

kinisking wrote:
SaiyanGod117 wrote:Its obvious an inconsistency Goku tanked rock thrusters to the face as a kid, reentry level while unconscious, and continuous electrocution. So this is either an inconsistency or he needed the suit because there was to little to no oxygen.
Read the Op? Those are less hot than the core
Yes I did, Rocket engine blast reaches +3000 degrees celsius. Earths core is 4400 degrees for outer core to around 6000 degrees for inner core, we already know he wasn't in the inner core since it's mostly composed of nickel, iron, and other minerals. So the difference in heat isn't too far off, Goku has also endured prolong exposure to a flame thrower which can exceed 1000 degrees Celsius and was unharmed after a rocket exploded in his face.

The things is he endured all this while he was still a child and before he learned how to control Ki, now fast forward a couple decades. He's grown tremendously more powerful since than, I'm pretty sure the Earth's core wouldn't be anything to a guy who can tank attacks that can destroy a planet, star, galaxy, or possibly universe. It has to be due to lack of oxygen.

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Post by Saiyan007 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:36 pm

But When we see Goku transport back with Whis and Beerus we are the suit off meaning he took it off when he was at the core.

Not too mention Goku doesn't say he will die down there he's asking if he will.He probably doesn't know if he can survive down there or not because he's never tried too.

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Post by ChiefWamsutta » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:11 am

nite_jay wrote: Surprised people are taking a gag episode's logic even remotely seriously.
I know, haha. While I watched the episode I turned off my brain, but then it turned back on again. It pisses me off that every episode I have to prepare for a retcon or inconsistency.
SaiyanGod117 wrote: It has to be due to lack of oxygen.
This makes the most sense. I can't even tell what is filler and what isn't with DBSuper.

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Re: Goku needing the suit for the Inner Core makes sense

Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:19 am

nite_jay wrote:Surprised people are taking a gag episode's logic even remotely seriously.
We wouldn't if not for the fact everything the show shows is canon :| .. we cannot conveniently pretend that was never said, so we are forced to make sense out of gags too..

On to the topic..

Like some pointed out here, I also believe goku didn't know where the material was in earth's core.. after all "earth's core' a very vague term.. he needed to go to searching for a while there.. and there is no oxygen.. at least not breathable amounts..
The suit could be an oxygen tank instead of a protection against the lava itself..
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Re: Goku needing the suit for the Inner Core makes sense

Post by ChiefWamsutta » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:55 am

So in Ep. 68, Bulma says, "Bring me this material from the earth's core. Then you can have your wish."

Goku says, "Huh? From the earth's core? Won't I die if I go here?"

Bulma replies, "My company's special suit can take it, so you'll be fine."

There's no mention of whether or not it was about heat or oxygen. We should all just assume Goku was referring to no oxygen. We have enough inconsistencies to deal with. All done.

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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:20 am

The suit is for humans so it of course provides heat protection. However oxygen as stated was probably the main concern.
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Re: Goku needing the suit for the Inner Core makes sense

Post by WhatIfTheories » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:05 pm

I like how Beerus showed up no sweat and was like what are you doing in a place like this. Beerus is Boss Mode. He doesn't need a suit.

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Re: Goku needing the suit for the Inner Core makes sense

Post by Simere » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:03 am

Since Goku IT'd back with Beerus and Whis without the suit on, doesn't that mean he took it off down there?

I suppose they could have traveled away from the core first.

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Post by buutenks » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:43 am

Saiyans are weak against the elements. Or are you all forgetting ROST? Or Vegeta sweating hard from being exposed to the sun for many days without moving. Or having jssues with Magetta due to the heat and lack of oxygen.

They are not Freeza, who can survive in any place.

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Post by Ssenrof » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:50 pm

buutenks wrote:Saiyans are weak against the elements. Or are you all forgetting ROST? Or Vegeta sweating hard from being exposed to the sun for many days without moving. Or having jssues with Magetta due to the heat and lack of oxygen.

They are not Freeza, who can survive in any place.

The problem is that the "elements" are no different from regular transfer of energy.

That's all heat is- a transfer of energy. Heat doesn't have any specials properties that bypass's energy transfer.

If A ki blast is fast enough to traverse deep space in moments - then just from moving it would be exerting more energy than the core of planet earth. Frankly, By all
Logic Goku can sit in the core of the Sun and be fine. If Goku can physically stop a subliminal energy wave from moving- then he can most certainly take a nap in the earths core. Hell, Goku fights at massively hypersonic speeds - just the air friction of Moving around would generate more heat than the earths core.

If Goku can fight in the upper atmosphere , which has almost no oxygen then he would be fine in the core.

Both thermal and kinetic energies release joules- these joules can be measured and compared/ so while
Goku hasn't ranked therma energy specifically- we know what he could tank based on the amount of
Joules he can tank from kinetic energy.

But- thankfully you Don't need this out of
Universe explanation.

Namek Saga Frieza survived the explosion of a planet while unconscious, exhausted, and cut in half. Meaning that Frieza is durable enough to chill in the core. Explosion of the planet is hilariously above the puny heat of the core.

That same Frieza was not durable enough to survive Against trunks sword swipes. The same Frieza that trunks could disentegrate with a casual energy beam. trunks casual energy beam released more concentrated energy than Namek exploding.

The same sword swipes that couldn't do shit to Goku.

That Goku is infinitely weaker than current SSG Goku.

So, No of Course Goku is being his usual super self and being ignorant of everything.

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