The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Angelus]

These matches would probably last the whole damn page


Pre-25th WMAT Training SSJ Gohan (with 25th WMAT Piccolo's clothes and shoulder weights on) VS Post-Cell Games USSJ Future Trunks (minutes before boarding his Time Machine to go back)
[STRICTLY AN ARM WRESTLING MATCH, so it's all just strength based]

Golden Frieza VS Auta Magetta (both inside that cube barrier in the U6-U7 Tournament, no ring-outs and kills allowed though)
[Remember, Frieza won't be affected by all the steam and heat. He has't mastered his Golden form though. Vegeta was weakened by the steam/heat]

DBS Piccolo VS Botamo (U6-U7 Tournament Rules)

Present Zamasu (not immortal) VS DBS SSJ2 Future Trunks with Z sword (full power, sparring against Goku)

SSJ Cabba VS Final Form Frieza (DBS, resurrected)

Monaka VS Buu Saga Chiaotzu (no paralysis, no ki attacks or flying)

SSJ3 Goku (no solar flare or IT) VS Pre-ROSAT Base Gotenks with Kaiokenx10 (no playing around, no strain from Kaioken, no fusion time limit)

[Zamasu55]

A couple of versus battles:

Golden Freeza vs Future Zamasu (immortal)

Final Form Coola vs Android No. 19

Hatchiyack vs Dabra

1. Not only is Future Zamasu stronger, he's even immortal and that means he can't be hurt. Frieza doesn't last 10 minutes.

2. Cooler smashes him into pieces, unless 19 absorbs his energy of course.

3. Hatchiyak was weaker than Perfect Cell, who's more or less on par with Dabura. The red dude is done for.

[Zamasu55]

These matches would probably last the whole damn page


Pre-25th WMAT Training SSJ Gohan (with 25th WMAT Piccolo's clothes and shoulder weights on) VS Post-Cell Games USSJ Future Trunks (minutes before boarding his Time Machine to go back)
[STRICTLY AN ARM WRESTLING MATCH, so it's all just strength based]

Golden Frieza VS Auta Magetta (both inside that cube barrier in the U6-U7 Tournament, no ring-outs and kills allowed though)
[Remember, Frieza won't be affected by all the steam and heat. He has't mastered his Golden form though. Vegeta was weakened by the steam/heat]

DBS Piccolo VS Botamo (U6-U7 Tournament Rules)

Present Zamasu (not immortal) VS DBS SSJ2 Future Trunks with Z sword (full power, sparring against Goku)

SSJ Cabba VS Final Form Frieza (DBS, resurrected)

Monaka VS Buu Saga Chiaotzu (no paralysis, no ki attacks or flying)

SSJ3 Goku (no solar flare or IT) VS Pre-ROSAT Base Gotenks with Kaiokenx10 (no playing around, no strain from Kaioken, no fusion time limit)

1. Ssj Gohan (Buu saga) should still be a little bit above Trunks, he can't be that weak.

2. Golden Frieza one-shots him.

3. Piccolo of course, he's smart enough to kick him off the ring.

4. Ssj2 Future Trunks did a lot better than Present Zamasu against the same Ssj2 Goku. He wins.

5. Final form Frieza one-shots him, badly.

6. Monaka is Oolong tier for me... Chiaotzu dominates him.

7. Base Gotenks, even with a 10x boost, is nothing to him.

[Sailor Haumea]

Here's one:

Garlic Jr. (with Makyo Star) vs. Fusion Zamasu

[Anime Kitten]

Garlic Jr. (with Makyo Star) vs. Fusion Zamasu

Garlic Jr. is immensely outclassed in power and skill, but IF he can manage to open the Dead Zone, then he wins. If not, Zamasu dominates.

[Sailor Haumea]

Garlic Jr. (with Makyo Star) vs. Fusion Zamasu

Garlic Jr. is immensely outclassed in power and skill, but IF he can manage to open the Makyo Star, then he wins. If not, Zamasu dominates.

How do you open the Makyo Star?

Do you mean the Dead Zone?

[DanielSSJ]

These matches would probably last the whole damn page


Pre-25th WMAT Training SSJ Gohan (with 25th WMAT Piccolo's clothes and shoulder weights on) VS Post-Cell Games USSJ Future Trunks (minutes before boarding his Time Machine to go back)
[STRICTLY AN ARM WRESTLING MATCH, so it's all just strength based]

Golden Frieza VS Auta Magetta (both inside that cube barrier in the U6-U7 Tournament, no ring-outs and kills allowed though)
[Remember, Frieza won't be affected by all the steam and heat. He has't mastered his Golden form though. Vegeta was weakened by the steam/heat]

DBS Piccolo VS Botamo (U6-U7 Tournament Rules)

Present Zamasu (not immortal) VS DBS SSJ2 Future Trunks with Z sword (full power, sparring against Goku)

SSJ Cabba VS Final Form Frieza (DBS, resurrected)

Monaka VS Buu Saga Chiaotzu (no paralysis, no ki attacks or flying)

SSJ3 Goku (no solar flare or IT) VS Pre-ROSAT Base Gotenks with Kaiokenx10 (no playing around, no strain from Kaioken, no fusion time limit)

- If this were Gohan after training with the Z Sword, he might have a chance, but this Gohan hasn't done anything strenuous in 7 years. Grade 3 Trunks wins the match.

- Vegeta was only a Super Saiyan when he "beat" Magetta, even though he didn't necessarily overpower him. Golden Freeza is on a whole different scale. Not to mention that he regularly dishes out insults like crazy, so Magetta likely loses the match.

- Botamo is nothing without his durability. If Piccolo takes a page out of Goku's book and attempts to knock him out of the ring, he'll have no issue winning. No idea whether or not Piccolo would think of that idea though.

- Zamasu is nothing without immortality. Super Saiyan 2 Full Power Trunks s more than enough to wipe him out.

- Going with the two-base theory, even Super Saiyan Cabba would be far too weak to do anything to Freeza.

- Monaka is not a fighter. He is never shown to have any fighting ability. Chiaotzu sucks, but he's actually a fighter. He wins.

- Gotenks accomplishes nothing without transforming. He'd need a Kaioken x200 to be a match for SS3 Goku, and even though SS3's energy consumption is crazy, it's still way more usable than the Kaioken at higher multiplications. Goku wins with zero effort.

[Anime Kitten]

How do you open the Makyo Star?
Do you mean the Dead Zone?

Oops, my bad. Yeah, that's what I meant. No Dead Zone, no victory.

[TheUltimateNinja]

These matches would probably last the whole damn page


Pre-25th WMAT Training SSJ Gohan (with 25th WMAT Piccolo's clothes and shoulder weights on) VS Post-Cell Games USSJ Future Trunks (minutes before boarding his Time Machine to go back)
[STRICTLY AN ARM WRESTLING MATCH, so it's all just strength based]

Golden Frieza VS Auta Magetta (both inside that cube barrier in the U6-U7 Tournament, no ring-outs and kills allowed though)
[Remember, Frieza won't be affected by all the steam and heat. He has't mastered his Golden form though. Vegeta was weakened by the steam/heat]

DBS Piccolo VS Botamo (U6-U7 Tournament Rules)

Present Zamasu (not immortal) VS DBS SSJ2 Future Trunks with Z sword (full power, sparring against Goku)

SSJ Cabba VS Final Form Frieza (DBS, resurrected)

Monaka VS Buu Saga Chiaotzu (no paralysis, no ki attacks or flying)

SSJ3 Goku (no solar flare or IT) VS Pre-ROSAT Base Gotenks with Kaiokenx10 (no playing around, no strain from Kaioken, no fusion time limit)

-Gohan would beat Trunks without too much difficulty, the gap is just too large.

-Golden Frieza stomps effortlessly, he's as strong as an SSBlue.

-Piccolo can just push him out of the ring.

-Future Trunks should beat him with medium difficulty, he's almost as strong as Goku.

-Cabba gets annihilated, Even First Form Frieza would make a joke of him.

-Monaka crushes Chiaotzu, he was able to take a hit to the face from Goku without flinching.

-SSJ3 Goku crushes even Post-RoSAT Base Gotenks w/Kkx10, Gotenks has no feats to place him that far above Goku.

Here's one:

Garlic Jr. (with Makyo Star) vs. Fusion Zamasu

How do you open the Makyo Star?
Do you mean the Dead Zone?

Oops, my bad. Yeah, that's what I meant. No Dead Zone, no victory.

Zamasu easily. Even if by some miracle he gets caught in the Dead Zone he can just scream his way out.

[Anime Kitten]

-Monaka crushes Chiaotzu, he was able to take a hit to the face from Goku without flinching.

May I ask what bearing this has on Monaka's fighting ability?

[DanielSSJ]

-Monaka crushes Chiaotzu, he was able to take a hit to the face from Goku without flinching.

You mean how Mr. Satan was able to take blows from Cell and Majin Boo with only minor injuries?

[TheUltimateNinja]

-Monaka crushes Chiaotzu, he was able to take a hit to the face from Goku without flinching.

May I ask what bearing this has on Monaka's fighting ability?

This means Chiaotzu can't do anything to Monaka, and if Monaka's offense is even close to as good as his defense he can one-shot Chiaotzu instantly.

-Monaka crushes Chiaotzu, he was able to take a hit to the face from Goku without flinching.

You mean how Mr. Satan was able to take blows from Cell and Majin Boo with only minor injuries?

But he also got wrecked by an ordinary bullet, so this points to his defense not being as high as those feats would suggest, the villains were most likely just trying to get him out of the way rather than actually kill him.

[Hellspawn28]

Fusion/Merged Zamasu travels to other fictional universes to destroy mortals in other worlds. Which series can stop him (Immortality is on to make things more tough)?

I think these franchises can defeat Merged Zamasu:

DC Comics
Demonbane
Digimon (There are multiverse-level beings like ZeedMillenniummon)
Doctor Who (From what I've seen)
Getter Robo (Getter Emperor is at a multiverse level too)
Image Comics/Top Cow
Marvel Comics
Mazinger (Mazinger ZERO Jigoku Mode can manifest itself in multiple timelines allowing it able to destroy multiple alternate worlds)
Saint Seiya (I think the high level beings like Apollo could beat him)
Shin Megami Tensei
Slayers
Transformers (You have high cosmic power beings Unciron, Primus, Alternity and several others)
Tenchi Muyo!

That's all I can think of for now.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Fusion/Merged Zamasu travels to other fictional universes to destroy mortals in other worlds. Which series can stop him (Immortality is on to make things more tough)?

I think these franchises can defeat Merged Zamasu:

DC Comics
Demonbane
Digimon (There are multiverse-level beings like ZeedMillenniummon)
Doctor Who (From what I've seen)
Getter Robo (Getter Emperor is at a multiverse level too)
Image Comics/Top Cow
Marvel Comics
Mazinger (Mazinger ZERO Jigoku Mode can manifest itself in multiple timelines allowing it able to destroy multiple alternate worlds)
Saint Seiya (I think the high level beings like Apollo could beat him)
Shin Megami Tensei
Slayers
Transformers (You have high cosmic power beings Unciron, Primus, Alternity and several others)
Tenchi Muyo!

That's all I can think of for now.

None of them unless a character with the ability to completely erase existence is there. I believe even Zeno couldn't "Kill" Zamasu...he had to erase reality as though it never existed to get rid of him. Just my speculation.

So basically Zamasu can only be defeated by the one true God of each universe.

[Sailor Haumea]

Fusion/Merged Zamasu travels to other fictional universes to destroy mortals in other worlds. Which series can stop him (Immortality is on to make things more tough)?

I think these franchises can defeat Merged Zamasu:

DC Comics
Demonbane
Digimon (There are multiverse-level beings like ZeedMillenniummon)
Doctor Who (From what I've seen)
Getter Robo (Getter Emperor is at a multiverse level too)
Image Comics/Top Cow
Marvel Comics
Mazinger (Mazinger ZERO Jigoku Mode can manifest itself in multiple timelines allowing it able to destroy multiple alternate worlds)
Saint Seiya (I think the high level beings like Apollo could beat him)
Shin Megami Tensei
Slayers
Transformers (You have high cosmic power beings Unciron, Primus, Alternity and several others)
Tenchi Muyo!

That's all I can think of for now.

Arceus from Pokémon can probably win.

Sailor Galaxia and Sailor Saturn from Sailor Moon can probably win.

[DanielSSJ]

But he also got wrecked by an ordinary bullet, so this points to his defense not being as high as those feats would suggest, the villains were most likely just trying to get him out of the way rather than actually kill him.

Or they're both gag characters, therefore whatever durability feats they have aren't to be taken seriously.

[TheUltimateNinja]

But he also got wrecked by an ordinary bullet, so this points to his defense not being as high as those feats would suggest, the villains were most likely just trying to get him out of the way rather than actually kill him.

Or they're both gag characters, therefore whatever durability feats they have aren't to be taken seriously.

But surely Monaka can't be all that pathetic, they could have had him get launched by Goku's punch like Satan against Cell or Kuririn when he asked to test Goku's new power.

[DanielSSJ]

But surely Monaka can't be all that pathetic, they could have had him get launched by Goku's punch like Satan against Cell or Kuririn when he asked to test Goku's new power.

The difference is this: Mr Satan was intended to be a joke character who was horribly out of his league compared to the heroes and Cell from the get-go and we're already fully aware that Kuririn is absolutely nothing to Goku as he is now. Monaka's status as a complete weakling was hinted at but wasn't explicitly revealed until the very end of the tournament. There's the scene where he takes a full forced blow from Goku. It's to show that he might not be what he's cracked up to be, since he wasn't able to dodge it and was nearly crying from the force of it.

I dunno, the idea that some random alien deliveryman could actually be a match for one of the strongest Earthlings out there, even if it is Chiaotzu, based on a circumstantial durability feat, especially when Dragon Ball is horribly inconsistent with its "feats". It sorta reminds me of the people out there who think Mr. Satan could take on Muten Roshi in a fight, based on his "feats".

[TheUltimateNinja]

But surely Monaka can't be all that pathetic, they could have had him get launched by Goku's punch like Satan against Cell or Kuririn when he asked to test Goku's new power.

The difference is this: Mr Satan was intended to be a joke character who was horribly out of his league compared to the heroes and Cell from the get-go and we're already fully aware that Kuririn is absolutely nothing to Goku as he is now. Monaka's status as a complete weakling was hinted at but wasn't explicitly revealed until the very end of the tournament. There's the scene where he takes a full forced blow from Goku. It's to show that he might not be what he's cracked up to be, since he wasn't able to dodge it and was nearly crying from the force of it.

I dunno, the idea that some random alien deliveryman could actually be a match for one of the strongest Earthlings out there, even if it is Chiaotzu, based on a circumstantial durability feat, especially when Dragon Ball is horribly inconsistent with its "feats". It sorta reminds me of the people out there who think Mr. Satan could take on Muten Roshi in a fight, based on his "feats".

We know that Mr. Satan isn't that far above normal humans from what we've seen of him, but there's nothing to indicate Monaka can't be well into the thousands in power. They did say he was weak, but that was a statement from a ridiculously powerful God comparing him to his teammates who were also incredibly powerful, you could put the androids on that team and they'd be considered pathetic too, perhaps Monaka is actually really strong when compared to someone average.

[VegetaSSJBlue]

A couple of versus battles:

Golden Freeza vs Future Zamasu (immortal)

Final Form Coola vs Android No. 19

Hatchiyack vs Dabra

1. Not only is Future Zamasu stronger, he's even immortal and that means he can't be hurt. Frieza doesn't last 10 minutes.

2. Cooler smashes him into pieces, unless 19 absorbs his energy of course.

3. Hatchiyak was weaker than Perfect Cell, who's more or less on par with Dabura. The red dude is done for.

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