Gowasu and Zamasu share the same name pun. Unfortunately, it's not very interesting, it just means "to be"RandomGuy96 wrote:What's Zamasu's name pun?
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Huh. Disappointing.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Gowasu and Zamasu share the same name pun. Unfortunately, it's not very interesting, it just means "to be"RandomGuy96 wrote:What's Zamasu's name pun?
Anyway for another topic, is Zamasu actually his name? Like, his real name? If so, was it ever explained why he has a name while all "our" Kaioshin and Kaios don't?
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Interesting question, and one that can't be answered definitively. In Toyotaro's manga, Zamasu always refers to Gowasu as "Kaioshin". This seems to imply that calling a Kaioshin by his title rather than his name is a matter of respect. So our Kaioshin probably have names, we just don't know them. The reason for this whole confusion, obviously enough, is that there used to be only one universe, and one Kaioshin for each reigon of the universe. Similar to Kaio, they never needed a name, they were referred to by their governing reigon, followed by their title.RandomGuy96 wrote:...is Zamasu actually his name? Like, his real name? If so, was it ever explained why he has a name while all "our" Kaioshin and Kaios don't?
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That implies that Kaioshin give up their names after ascending to their title. Most likely Zamasu got to have a name because he was an apprentice to the "real" Kaioshin, and had yet to ascend. But that just opens the question of what the ten Kaioshin and Kaio are really named... I at least want to know North Kaio's name.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Interesting question, and one that can't be answered definitively. In Toyotaro's manga, Zamasu always refers to Gowasu as "Kaioshin". This seems to imply that calling a Kaioshin by his title rather than his name is a matter of respect. So our Kaioshin probably have names, we just don't know them. The reason for this whole confusion, obviously enough, is that there used to be only one universe, and one Kaioshin for each reigon of the universe. Similar to Kaio, they never needed a name, they were referred to by their governing reigon, followed by their title.RandomGuy96 wrote:...is Zamasu actually his name? Like, his real name? If so, was it ever explained why he has a name while all "our" Kaioshin and Kaios don't?
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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I get the feeling Universe 7's Eastern Supreme Kai is literally named Shin. 
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It makes sense if you're only thinking in dub terms, but in the original, "Shin" is just an alias taken from "Kaioshin". The unfortunate truth is that we don't knowSailor Haumea wrote:I get the feeling Universe 7's Eastern Supreme Kai is literally named Shin.
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Wait, I just remember. Gowasu is a full Kaioshin and he still has a name. So why don't our five Kaios and five Kaioshin have names?Jinzoningen MULE wrote:It makes sense if you're only thinking in dub terms, but in the original, "Shin" is just an alias taken from "Kaioshin". The unfortunate truth is that we don't knowSailor Haumea wrote:I get the feeling Universe 7's Eastern Supreme Kai is literally named Shin.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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From a narrative standpoint, Kaioshin didn't need names when they were first introduced, they were addressed by their title. The only reason they need names now is because there are so many, and they hold the same positions, only in separate universes. From an in-universe standpoint, they probably do have names, we just don't know them.RandomGuy96 wrote:Wait, I just remember. Gowasu is a full Kaioshin and he still has a name. So why don't our five Kaios and five Kaioshin have names?Jinzoningen MULE wrote:It makes sense if you're only thinking in dub terms, but in the original, "Shin" is just an alias taken from "Kaioshin". The unfortunate truth is that we don't knowSailor Haumea wrote:I get the feeling Universe 7's Eastern Supreme Kai is literally named Shin.
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Zarbon, fittingly for an aide, rarely gets his credit for pushing Vegeta's destruction. The focus tends to be on the authorities, which isn't exactly unreasonable.
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Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"Nejishiki wrote:Zarbon, fittingly for an aide, rarely gets his credit for pushing Vegeta's destruction. The focus tends to be on the authorities, which isn't exactly unreasonable.
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength IIRC.dbgtFO wrote:Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"Nejishiki wrote:Zarbon, fittingly for an aide, rarely gets his credit for pushing Vegeta's destruction. The focus tends to be on the authorities, which isn't exactly unreasonable.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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That's correct. I watched it again recently. I completely forgot Zarbon urged for the fireworks to start early.
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It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength IIRC.dbgtFO wrote:Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"Nejishiki wrote:Zarbon, fittingly for an aide, rarely gets his credit for pushing Vegeta's destruction. The focus tends to be on the authorities, which isn't exactly unreasonable.
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If this means there's the slightest chance that this upcoming episode of Super could culminate with Goku axe murdering Vegeta while screaming and ranting about Huey Lewis and the News, that'll certainly get me VERY interested and watching the show regularly again.
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Okay, so who do we have to bully to make Super American Saiyacho a reality? That sounds like a better arc than anything else coming up.Kunzait_83 wrote:If this means there's the slightest chance that this upcoming episode of Super could culminate with Goku axe murdering Vegeta while screaming and ranting about Huey Lewis and the News, that'll certainly get me VERY interested and watching the show regularly again.
See now I NEED to hear Nozawa's delivery of "TRY GETTING A RESERVATION AT DORSIA'S NOW YOU BASTARD!!! AAAAAHHH!!!! YOU!!!! FUCKING!!!! STUPID!!!! BASTARD!!!!" Be it in Japanese or in Engrish.
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[spoiler]Was I the only one who noticed that Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta's screentime was avoided before the Zamasu Arc? In ROF, both film and arc, SSJB Vegeta only appears at the end to defeat Freeza. In the Champa Arc, he one-shots Cabba after transforming into Blue, and fights Hit for about half an episode as opposed to Blue Goku's two episodes.
When the Zamasu Arc rolls around, he gets screentime all over the place; so much so that we haven't seen Vegeta with blonde/gold hair since the tournament.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Was I the only one who noticed that Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta's screentime was avoided before the Zamasu Arc? In ROF, both film and arc, SSJB Vegeta only appears at the end to defeat Freeza. In the Champa Arc, he one-shots Cabba after transforming into Blue, and fights Hit for about half an episode as opposed to Blue Goku's two episodes.
When the Zamasu Arc rolls around, he gets screentime all over the place; so much so that we haven't seen Vegeta with blonde/gold hair since the tournament.[/spoiler]
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Haha I remember when you quoted me I was like damn... It's me but betternite_jay wrote:My suit Goku avatar is the best out of them all because he has a Christmas hat on.
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